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Re: "Things need to change"
« Reply #50 on: October 11, 2021, 04:45:24 AM »
Afghanistan’s new rulers set their sights on stamping out widespread drug addiction in their country, even if by force.

https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2021/10/11/photos-kabul-afghanistan-taliban-drugs-underworld-heroin

"The scene provided a window into the new order under Taliban governance: The men – many with mental illness, according to doctors – sat against stone walls with their hands tied. They were told to sober up or face beatings.

The heavy-handed methods are welcomed by some health workers, who have had no choice but to adapt to Taliban rule. “We are not in a democracy anymore, this is a dictatorship. And the use of force is the only way to treat these people,” said Dr Fazalrabi Mayar, working in a treatment facility. He was referring specifically to Afghans addicted to heroin and meth."


neither is the rest of the world

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Re: "Things need to change"
« Reply #51 on: October 11, 2021, 06:05:19 AM »
Afghanistan’s new rulers set their sights on stamping out widespread drug addiction in their country, even if by force.

https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2021/10/11/photos-kabul-afghanistan-taliban-drugs-underworld-heroin

"The scene provided a window into the new order under Taliban governance: The men – many with mental illness, according to doctors – sat against stone walls with their hands tied. They were told to sober up or face beatings.

The heavy-handed methods are welcomed by some health workers, who have had no choice but to adapt to Taliban rule. “We are not in a democracy anymore, this is a dictatorship. And the use of force is the only way to treat these people,” said Dr Fazalrabi Mayar, working in a treatment facility. He was referring specifically to Afghans addicted to heroin and meth."


What’s your opinion on it?

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Re: "Things need to change"
« Reply #52 on: October 11, 2021, 06:18:28 AM »
LOL. Drug dealers trying to stamp out drug addiction.

Almost as funny as guys on the bodybuilding board calling for more extensive and greater enforcement of drug laws.

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Re: "Things need to change"
« Reply #53 on: October 11, 2021, 06:46:24 AM »
LOL. Drug dealers trying to stamp out drug addiction.

Almost as funny as guys on the bodybuilding board calling for more extensive and greater enforcement of drug laws.

Didn't the Taliban stamp out the opium trade?

I certainly don't want to live in an Islamic caliphate, but I can think of a few things the Taliban are doing with only the first item following an order of importance that are alright.

1. a. Not putting up with female tyranny whereby women manipulate nearly all social interactions and policies for their benefit, increasingly be given the majority of professional positions, sexually manipulate men, ruin the family unit, and generally act like a bunch of stupid whores.
2. Putting an end to the opium trade. 
4. Putting an end to pederasty (I forgot the name for this sick practice).
5. Putting an end to usury.

Whether the Taliban are actually drug dealers despite the above five items, has nothing to do with the items being alright.

Aside from point 4, I know all this doesn't sit well with libertarians who prefer an anything-goes shit show.

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Re: "Things need to change"
« Reply #54 on: October 11, 2021, 07:16:43 AM »
What’s your opinion on it?

Some problems can only be solved by dictators.

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Re: "Things need to change"
« Reply #55 on: October 11, 2021, 07:37:52 AM »
Some problems can only be solved by dictators.

Right.

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Re: "Things need to change"
« Reply #56 on: October 11, 2021, 02:26:56 PM »
Society needs to stop coddling nonfunctional addicts.  I do not know of any functional meth heads (never met Ayn Rand  ;D ).  If you want to take drugs fine, but if you end up on the streets in a tent the city needs to be able to kick you out. 

Society's lack of emphasis on personal responsibility will be a large part of its downfall.

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Re: "Things need to change"
« Reply #57 on: October 11, 2021, 03:54:48 PM »


Drugs is personal choice. Me no see drug addicts victimizing anyone. Me see minding own business. Haha! Me see personal choice. Haha!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2021/09/25/nyc-drug-users-shoot-up-in-broad-daylight-in-midtown/amp/

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Re: "Things need to change"
« Reply #58 on: October 11, 2021, 03:57:54 PM »
Society needs to stop coddling nonfunctional addicts.  I do not know of any functional meth heads (never met Ayn Rand  ;D ).  If you want to take drugs fine, but if you end up on the streets in a tent the city needs to be able to kick you out. 

Society's lack of emphasis on personal responsibility will be a large part of its downfall.

You have to “understand” them bro.

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Re: "Things need to change"
« Reply #59 on: October 11, 2021, 04:14:41 PM »
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« Reply #60 on: October 11, 2021, 06:21:15 PM »
You have to “understand” them bro.

Applying the same logic you should be for banning all guns right. It’s not the people using them it’s the guns right?


The problem with conservatives is that they don’t know when to fold. They’re too fucking self righteous.

Not really much different from liberals. In San Francisco, they have rent control for everything and they have a massive homeless problem. Yet they can’t see the relationship  between the two.


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Re: "Things need to change"
« Reply #61 on: October 11, 2021, 06:40:12 PM »
Applying the same logic you should be for banning all guns right. It’s not the people using them it’s the guns right?


The problem with conservatives is that they don’t know when to fold. They’re too fucking self righteous.

Not really much different from liberals. In San Francisco, they have rent control for everything and they have a massive homeless problem. Yet they can’t see the relationship  between the two.

Conservatism is garbage! Do you actually think a guy who wants public hangings for large-scale drug distributors listens to Sean Hannity... Bill O'Reilly... Michael Savage... and an assortment of other clowns?

I have a gun.

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Re: "Things need to change"
« Reply #62 on: October 11, 2021, 08:18:58 PM »
Perhaps so ;)

But when it comes specifically to the legality of drugs, I just think the Portugal model is more effective at minimising the damage that druggies do to the wider community (and themselves) than the beheading model :D

In fact I think I read/heard somewhere recently that Scotland had the highest number of drug deaths per 100k of the population and Portugal the lowest, so make of that what you will...


🤔 Hmmm  warm sunny Portugal or cold dark dreary Scotland - I’m not surprised the druggies are keeling over in great No.s in Scotland !!! Oh & of Course they’ve got the mad Wee Jimmy Krankie
Running or Ruining the show.

😀🤣😂

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Re: "Things need to change"
« Reply #63 on: October 11, 2021, 08:33:20 PM »


Drugs is personal choice. Me no see drug addicts victimizing anyone. Me see minding own business. Haha! Me see personal choice. Haha!


Thanks for Posting.

Question to the oh so touchy feely liberals on this board happy with the scenes in that video ??
Do we need to understand them folk ?
FFS it’s supposed to be a 1st world leader of a country not some shit show 4th world place.
Looking forwards to the resident LiberalLeftist answers.

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Re: "Things need to change"
« Reply #64 on: October 12, 2021, 02:01:48 AM »
Thanks for Posting.

Question to the oh so touchy feely liberals on this board happy with the scenes in that video ??
Do we need to understand them folk ?
FFS it’s supposed to be a 1st world leader of a country not some shit show 4th world place.
Looking forwards to the resident LiberalLeftist answers.

You’re welcome.

Libertarian explanations are also interesting.

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Re: "Things need to change"
« Reply #65 on: October 12, 2021, 04:26:41 AM »
The city at least needs to pick up the trash and clean the areas.