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SB 9 and 10 are state wide.  Everyone can build two houses in their backyard.  What could go wrong?




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Re: New California Residential Law - Every House Can Build Two Additional
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2021, 10:49:16 AM »
Once rental enters a single-family neighborhood, the neighborhood goes downhill.

I wonder how Beverly Hills will get around this?

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Re: New California Residential Law - Every House Can Build Two Additional
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2021, 11:11:47 AM »
How many of these homes have back yards big enough for an additional livable space?

How does this law work with/around HOA's ?

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Re: New California Residential Law - Every House Can Build Two Additional
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2021, 11:30:55 AM »
How many of these homes have back yards big enough for an additional livable space?

How does this law work with/around HOA's ?

They can build vertically, convert a garage, etc.

HOA's cannot prevent it.  This will ruin many areas.  Turn them into slums if just rental.


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Re: New California Residential Law - Every House Can Build Two Additional
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2021, 11:32:21 AM »
One for citizens, one for illegals.  8)

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Re: New California Residential Law - Every House Can Build Two Additional
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2021, 11:49:02 AM »
They can build vertically, convert a garage, etc.

HOA's cannot prevent it.  This will ruin many areas.  Turn them into slums if just rental.

My HOA doesn't allow additional construction without voting approval from the residents and the hoa has still over ruled that. It will be interesting to see who wants renters living in their house.

 I guess we will see though.

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Re: New California Residential Law - Every House Can Build Two Additional
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2021, 01:07:16 PM »
No water NO life , you can't build & expand ................must stop !.

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Re: New California Residential Law - Every House Can Build Two Additional
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2021, 04:59:02 PM »
My HOA doesn't allow additional construction without voting approval from the residents and the hoa has still over ruled that. It will be interesting to see who wants renters living in their house.

 I guess we will see though.

As long as the lot is over 2400 sq feet they can subdivide it into two lots and put two houses on each and there's nothing any town or hoa can do to stop them.  That's a total of four houses and two lots where the was once one.  Also, there is no requirement for any parking on the lot.  This law is state wide and goes into affect the first day of 2022.  This is going to have a huge affect on the California housing market going forward. 




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Re: New California Residential Law - Every House Can Build Two Additional
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2021, 05:50:35 PM »
This law is going in the right direction, its more freedom . Great for a flipper tax revenue, the cali exodus will slow
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Re: New California Residential Law - Every House Can Build Two Additional
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2021, 05:56:10 PM »
This law is going in the right direction, its more freedom . Great for a flipper tax revenue, the cali exodus will slow

It's less freedom.  A town or HOA has no control over it's development.

Even more people will exit Cali. Cali will become a state of tenants.

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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2021, 06:01:43 PM »
It's less freedom.  A town or HOA has no control over it's development.

Even more people will exit Cali. Cali will become a state of tenants.
hoa's tend to be assholes and put up red tape on things , you must be an hoa pres
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Re: New California Residential Law - Every House Can Build Two Additional
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2021, 06:11:17 PM »
hoa's tend to be assholes and put up red tape on things , you must be an hoa pres

You move into an HOA community you abide by the rules which you should read before you buy.

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Re: New California Residential Law - Every House Can Build Two Additional
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2021, 06:12:53 PM »
The destruction of California is happening at warp speed. If you destroy the suburbs people will flee to another state. NJ is entertaining the notion that it will be a good thing to put projects up in suburban areas.  After all the students do so well there. What could go wrong bringing fucked up government reliant families to the suburbs?

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Re: New California Residential Law - Every House Can Build Two Additional
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2021, 06:51:43 PM »
You move into an HOA community you abide by the rules which you should read before you buy.
exactly i would not buy for this reason. Hoa's are junior commie training.

Neighborhoods should be directed towards science discovery agriculture electricity and books about our savior jesus christ
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Re: New California Residential Law - Every House Can Build Two Additional
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2021, 07:37:05 PM »
As long as the lot is over 2400 sq feet they can subdivide it into two lots and put two houses on each and there's nothing any town or hoa can do to stop them.  That's a total of four houses and two lots where the was once one.  Also, there is no requirement for any parking on the lot.  This law is state wide and goes into affect the first day of 2022.  This is going to have a huge affect on the California housing market going forward.

This will be interesting.

I’m sure this will be heavily regulated soon after it goes into affect.

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Re: New California Residential Law - Every House Can Build Two Additional
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2021, 07:43:08 PM »
How many of these homes have back yards big enough for an additional livable space?

How does this law work with/around HOA's ?

The lot only needs to be 2400 sq feet to allow it be be divided in half and have two houses put on each of the 1200 sq foot lots.  Each house only needs to be 800 sq feet and can be two stories and no parking is required on the lot.



Here's the bill:
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202120220SB9

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« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2021, 07:56:25 PM »
The lot only needs to be 2400 sq feet to allow it be be divided in half and have two houses put on each of the 1200 sq foot lots.  Each house only needs to be 800 sq feet and can be two stories and no parking is required on the lot.



Here's the bill:
https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202120220SB9

Interesting.

I wonder if old properties will be bought and torn down. There is a lot of land in central and NorCal

Southern California is so over developed it will be interesting to see how quickly people adjust.

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Re: New California Residential Law - Every House Can Build Two Additional
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2021, 07:57:57 PM »
Interesting.

I wonder if old properties will be bought and torn down. There is a lot of land in central and NorCal

Southern California is so over developed it will be interesting to see how quickly people adjust.

Absolutely. As long as money can be made by doing it and the renters are there to fill the spaces, they’ll be demolishing everything and rebuilding.

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« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2021, 08:10:44 PM »
Interesting.

I wonder if old properties will be bought and torn down. There is a lot of land in central and NorCal

Southern California is so over developed it will be interesting to see how quickly people adjust.

Apparently, HOA can prevent the use of SB 9 if is chooses to and I assume most will. 

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« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2021, 08:14:24 PM »
Absolutely. As long as money can be made by doing it and the renters are there to fill the spaces, they’ll be demolishing everything and rebuilding.

I wonder if we will see LA (or any city)  turn old warehouses into apartment complexes without the parking restrictions.

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« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2021, 08:17:05 PM »
Apparently, HOA can prevent the use of SB 9 if is chooses to and I assume most will.

Yup. There is a lot of money in these HOA properties. I’m sure they lobbied in favor of their neighborhoods.

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Re: New California Residential Law - Every House Can Build Two Additional
« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2021, 08:28:36 PM »
This has been building for a while now. For example, in many areas of L.A., real estate developers bought what were once single family, 2 bedroom homes and split them into 2 or even three apartments. They just put up some dirt cheap drywall(so you will hear every step, dog bark and fart from your neighbor) to separate the parts of the house, and even split one bathroom into two with a cheap pipe that now funnels one shower into two apartments, who now have a shit little dribble of water pressure in their shower. So one tenant's apartment is what was once the living room and yard, then the cheap drywall separates the other tenant to where the original bedrooms were. Worse than that, they often put bunk beds in each apartment, as the promise of cheap or free community college and all the grants and low income payments that go to someone "in school" getting woke, cover the rent in these converted shitholes. So what you will have are a bunch of international student's and unemployed losers who can afford a bunkbed space in what was once an area where rent prices excluded those type of people. Santa Monica is a perfect example. Now the developer can put even another "split" single home in the back, make it 2 more apartments so what was once a single family home now has 5-10 tenants.  Then you have the "sober living" scam,  where shady developers buy or lease a house and do the bunkbed thing and since there are very few regulations for sober living, as long as you have an AA meeting once a day you can cram in alcoholic drug addicts, and it's very difficult to enforce anything because 12 step is anonymous so you can't get any information about the supposed "treatment" these sober living people are getting. It's rampant all over L.A. and all addicts know 90% of them don't enforce the no drug/alcohol policy. This is going to create a population density like L.A. could never have imagined. And a culture change that will be irreversible.

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Re: New California Residential Law - Every House Can Build Two Additional
« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2021, 04:31:58 AM »
There will be a mad rush to declare neighborhoods historic and landmark.

Can you say "Beverly Hills"?

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"SB 9 excludes historic and landmark districts."

https://focus.senate.ca.gov/sb9

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Re: New California Residential Law - Every House Can Build Two Additional
« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2021, 05:42:39 AM »
There will be a mad rush to declare neighborhoods historic and landmark.

Can you say "Beverly Hills"?

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"SB 9 excludes historic and landmark districts."

https://focus.senate.ca.gov/sb9


Beverly Hills will be surrounded by high density townhouses soon enough.  It's going to be very interesting to see the ramifications of this new law going forward.  California will have a construction boom and architects will be busy creating new duplex designs that fit on small lots. 

Will other states follow California's lead?  Massachusetts, New York, Illinois, Washington, Oregon?



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Re: New California Residential Law - Every House Can Build Two Additional
« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2021, 07:27:32 AM »
The east coast libtard states usually copy whatever Cali does.

NJ guv Murphy has no mind of his own and follows Cali.