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“We cannot guarantee your safety”
« on: December 10, 2021, 06:56:43 PM »

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Re: “We cannot guarantee your safety”
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2021, 07:35:53 PM »
Turn on the news and it obvious you can’t depend on the police.
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Re: “We cannot guarantee your safety”
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2021, 07:37:39 PM »
Turn on the news and it obvious you can’t depend on the police.

And it’s not their fault

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Re: “We cannot guarantee your safety”
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2021, 04:45:43 AM »
And it’s not their fault

They have been kowtowing to the Marxist BLM leaders and protestors. So you’re wrong.

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Re: “We cannot guarantee your safety”
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2021, 05:31:56 AM »
Cops are handcuffed. They make decisions in a split second that people, news, jurors, prosecutors debate for days, months and years.  We now have District attorneys in major  Democrat cities refusing to prosecute arrests. Why would a cop put his job on the line knowing district attorneys office will throw out the charges?  Also the new bail reforms are letting guys out the same day before the reports are issued. Nation wide many people think they have the right to resist arrest. A cop has a right and a duty to use force to make the arrest. You fight the charges in court and not in the street. Cops tread lightly now knowing they don't have the backing of the people, command staff and politicians on especially resisting subjects . Cops are effective when they are pro active. Now they are reactive to save their job.  Cops nation wide have implied immunity from law suits. Meaning you can sue the town, country, state or the feds but you can't sue the cop directly.  These laws were put into place because cops wouldn't be able to their job if every arrest resulted in a personal law suit they would have to defend with their own money. Liberals want that law changed.  Imagine an ordinary working cop being sued 10 times a year as leverage into dropping charges?  Right now in liberal areas cops stand by like armed security guards trying to protect their job instead of getting involved.  They know no one has their back. In the past when you had "mainly peaceful protests" with arson, assaults, looting, murder, blocking of highways and vandalism, cops would go in with bats and hats breaking heads. Now they stand by and watch, knowing liberals  have no stomach for what needs to be done.

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Re: “We cannot guarantee your safety”
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2021, 06:49:23 AM »
Cops can't fix societal problems. They show up after the problems already happen in most cases.

Not prosecuting crimes, now that will change society and has.

Just like the saying that a lock on a door only keeps honest people out, the only thing keeping many from going through with crime is the ride in a cop car.

Take that away and you have instant "flash robs".

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Re: “We cannot guarantee your safety”
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2021, 08:03:19 AM »
They have been kowtowing to the Marxist BLM leaders and protestors. So you’re wrong.

Yeah…sure. LAPD was defunded $150mil which took away their gang units as well. Gascon set a no cash bail policy even for repeat criminals. Everyone that was caught and arrested doing Smash and grabs were released. On top of that, LAPD has been given stand down orders even. You have no idea what you’re talking about.

I don’t know one cop in that county that has any good to say about Gascon. He’s just another woke pos putting peoples lives in danger

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Re: “We cannot guarantee your safety”
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2021, 08:15:33 AM »
Cops are handcuffed. They make decisions in a split second that people, news, jurors, prosecutors debate for days, months and years.  We now have District attorneys in major  Democrat cities refusing to prosecute arrests. Why would a cop put his job on the line knowing district attorneys office will throw out the charges?  Also the new bail reforms are letting guys out the same day before the reports are issued. Nation wide many people think they have the right to resist arrest. A cop has a right and a duty to use force to make the arrest. You fight the charges in court and not in the street. Cops tread lightly now knowing they don't have the backing of the people, command staff and politicians on especially resisting subjects . Cops are effective when they are pro active. Now they are reactive to save there job.  Cops nation wide have implied immunity from law suits. Meaning you can sue the town, country, state or the feds but you can't sue the cop directly.  These laws were put into place because cops wouldn't be able to there job if every arrest resulted in a personal law suit they would have to defend with their own money. Liberals want that law changed.  Imagine an ordinary working cop being sued 10 times a year as leverage into dropping charges?  Right now in liberal areas cops stand by like armed security guards trying to protect their job instead of getting involved.  They know no one has their back. In the past when you had "mainly peaceful protests" with arson, assaults, looting, murder, blocking of highways and vandalism cops would go in with bats and hats breaking heads. Now they stand by and watch, knowing liberals  have no stomach for what needs to be done.

Well said. Don't expect everyone to understand this. Many on this forum will work really hard in an effort to not 'get' the basic premise of what you just laid out.

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Re: “We cannot guarantee your safety”
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2021, 08:25:12 AM »
Cops are handcuffed. They make decisions in a split second that people, news, jurors, prosecutors debate for days, months and years.  We now have District attorneys in major  Democrat cities refusing to prosecute arrests. Why would a cop put his job on the line knowing district attorneys office will throw out the charges?  Also the new bail reforms are letting guys out the same day before the reports are issued. Nation wide many people think they have the right to resist arrest. A cop has a right and a duty to use force to make the arrest. You fight the charges in court and not in the street. Cops tread lightly now knowing they don't have the backing of the people, command staff and politicians on especially resisting subjects . Cops are effective when they are pro active. Now they are reactive to save there job.  Cops nation wide have implied immunity from law suits. Meaning you can sue the town, country, state or the feds but you can't sue the cop directly.  These laws were put into place because cops wouldn't be able to there job if every arrest resulted in a personal law suit they would have to defend with their own money. Liberals want that law changed.  Imagine an ordinary working cop being sued 10 times a year as leverage into dropping charges?  Right now in liberal areas cops stand by like armed security guards trying to protect their job instead of getting involved.  They know no one has their back. In the past when you had "mainly peaceful protests" with arson, assaults, looting, murder, blocking of highways and vandalism cops would go in with bats and hats breaking heads. Now they stand by and watch, knowing liberals  have no stomach for what needs to be done.

I think maybe liberals or whomever it applies to, don't realize that underneath the thin veneer of society (laws, general manners etc), humans are a very dangerous and contemptible species. They are trying to tear it down, thinking that humans are good underneath and everything will be fine without the "oppressors".  Big mistake.

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Re: “We cannot guarantee your safety”
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2021, 08:45:11 AM »
Cops can't fix societal problems. They show up after the problems already happen in most cases.

Not prosecuting crimes, now that will change society and has.

Just like the saying that a lock on a door only keeps honest people out, the only thing keeping many from going through with crime is the ride in a cop car.

Take that away and you have instant "flash robs".

It really goes beyond not prosecuting crimes. You have Newsom who released some 76,000 inmates throughout the 40+ counties in California, tightening up already stringent “gun control” laws which restricts law abiding citizens to protect themselves and the wait for CCW application approval is 4-6 months at best. The criminals literally have more rights than law abiding citizens

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Re: “We cannot guarantee your safety”
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2021, 09:15:05 AM »
Gascon needs to go, horrible person. Be your own safety, protect your family and yourself. FTW
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Re: “We cannot guarantee your safety”
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2021, 09:28:42 AM »
Yeah…sure. LAPD was defunded $150mil which took away their gang units as well. Gascon set a no cash bail policy even for repeat criminals. Everyone that was caught and arrested doing Smash and grabs were released. On top of that, LAPD has been given stand down orders even. You have no idea what you’re talking about.

I don’t know one cop in that county that has any good to say about Gascon. He’s just another woke pos putting peoples lives in danger

The issue is, cops are not the main pillars of society. They bend to the whims and wishes to whatever the DA wants instead of upholding the constitution. All they care about is their pensions. Otherwise, more cops would leave their job. They won’t go against the Marxist BLM movement.

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Re: “We cannot guarantee your safety”
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2021, 09:47:24 AM »
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Re: “We cannot guarantee your safety”
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2021, 10:11:53 AM »
The issue is, cops are not the main pillars of society. They bend to the whims and wishes to whatever the DA wants instead of upholding the constitution. All they care about is their pensions. Otherwise, more cops would leave their job. They won’t go against the Marxist BLM movement.

Unfortunately true.

The unions have trapped their members.

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Re: “We cannot guarantee your safety”
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2021, 11:29:37 AM »
The issue is, cops are not the main pillars of society. They bend to the whims and wishes to whatever the DA wants instead of upholding the constitution. All they care about is their pensions. Otherwise, more cops would leave their job. They won’t go against the Marxist BLM movement.

Cops aren't pillars of society but you are? I'd rather live in neighborhood of cops. Seven cops own houses in my neighborhood within two blocks. They are great neighbors. Whims and wishes of the DA?  No, the district attorney prosecute crime after the cops arrest them. They don't direct the cops other than by threats of prosecuting cops in Democrat areas. The DA's are not doing their job. All cops care about is pensions?  Damn right it's one of the reasons they became cops. Same reason teachers, firemen and other government workers have their career in a field with a pension. Being a cop for many is a calling. Often passed from grandfather, son and grandson. Cops want their career.  Cops in my area with a little over time are making between 150K and 200K.  If you became a cop as a young man and was on for 15 years it's not easy finding another job with a pension paying that much. I get it. You're part of society that hates cops, envies what they have and blames them for society. 

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Re: “We cannot guarantee your safety”
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2021, 01:14:35 PM »
Cops aren't pillars of society but you are? I'd rather live in neighborhood of cops. Seven cops own houses in my neighborhood within two blocks. They are great neighbors. Whims and wishes of the DA?  No, the district attorney prosecute crime after the cops arrest them. They don't direct the cops other than by threats of prosecuting cops in Democrat areas. The DA's are not doing their job. All cops care about is pensions?  Damn right it's one of the reasons they became cops. Same reason teachers, firemen and other government workers have their career in a field with a pension. Being a cop for many is a calling. Often passed from grandfather, son and grandson. Cops want their career.  Cops in my area with a little over time are making between 150K and 200K.  If you became a cop as a young man and was on for 15 years it's not easy finding another job with a pension paying that much. I get it. You're part of society that hates cops, envies what they have and blames them for society.

No one mentioned envy you geriatric old fuck. I don’t envy any man. I’m sorry you’re but hurt that your cop bro’s are bowing down and standing down to the BLM crew instead of standing up to them. The cops do what their union tells them to do and that’s all they care about.

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Re: “We cannot guarantee your safety”
« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2021, 10:04:44 AM »
Even Bloods are saying LA isn’t safe


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Re: “We cannot guarantee your safety”
« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2021, 10:11:25 AM »
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Re: “We cannot guarantee your safety”
« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2021, 11:18:18 AM »
Cops have never been able to guarantee your safety.  That's not the problem as I see it.  The problem is that the government won't allow people to defend themselves against violent criminals.

If people were allowed to bear arms and meet deadly force with deadly force this problem would largely solve itself.  Right now criminals in California have no fear of their victims.

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« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2021, 07:03:23 PM »
Cops have never been able to guarantee your safety.  That's not the problem as I see it. The problem is that the government won't allow people to defend themselves against violent criminals.

If people were allowed to bear arms and meet deadly force with deadly force this problem would largely solve itself.  Right now criminals in California have no fear of their victims.
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Re: “We cannot guarantee your safety”
« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2021, 07:23:49 PM »
SanFran...must be an election year coming up.


"After Black Lives Matter protesters last year demanded that cities “Defund the Police,” San Francisco Mayor London Breed held a press conference to announce that her city would be one of the first to do exactly that. Breed announced $120 million in cuts to the budgets of both San Francisco’s police and sheriff's departments. A spokesperson for the police officers’ union warned the cuts "could impact our ability to respond to emergencies,” but the police chief assured the public that the cuts “will not diminish our ability to provide essential services."

Yesterday, Breed reversed herself in dramatic fashion, announcing that she was making an emergency request to the city’s Board of Supervisors for more money for the police to support a crackdown on crime, including open air drug dealing, car break-ins, and retail theft."



https://michaelshellenberger.substack.com/p/victory-san-francisco-mayor-promises



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Re: “We cannot guarantee your safety”
« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2021, 10:58:27 AM »
There is no way I would be a cop. Any arrest could see you dead or the next Chauvin.

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Re: “We cannot guarantee your safety”
« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2021, 11:15:57 AM »
There is no way I would be a cop. Any arrest could see you dead or the next Chauvin.
Terrible job. Underpaid and under appreciated.
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Re: “We cannot guarantee your safety”
« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2021, 11:25:51 AM »
There is no way I would be a cop. Any arrest could see you dead or the next Chauvin.


Ironic that the result is more sawed-off, power trip types as cops because the risk outweighs the reward for a normal person.

A certain percentage of cops are going to be "that guy'.

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Re: “We cannot guarantee your safety”
« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2021, 10:19:49 AM »

Ironic that the result is more sawed-off, power trip types as cops because the risk outweighs the reward for a normal person.

A certain percentage of cops are going to be "that guy'.
Or just a shortage of cops.