Mentzer Brothers in action

[Hard Fast]

Fucken A

[Hard Fast]

[pamith]

The first video is simply incredible

[AbrahamG]

Aside from the pullover machine that equipment sucks.

[Hypertrophy]

I like how the Mentzers are working out so hard in the first vid they look all shiny and stuff.
NO HOMO

[Humble Narcissist]

Aside from the pullover machine that equipment sucks.

Can wreck your shoulders.

[karasan]

Mike Mentzer was one of the very few bbers having long muscle bellies all around.
He sometimes seem to have lacking chest but don't know why! He seem to have great pec attachments, full and long pecs with no gap.
He also lacked back detail/lower traps maybe, but had amazing v taper and waist to delt ratio.

[oldtimer1]

Can wreck your shoulders.

I found the opposite. It stretched the shoulder joint freeing my locked in shoulders.

[Humble Narcissist]

I found the opposite. It stretched the shoulder joint freeing my locked in shoulders.

I've known 2 people who tore rib cartilage and Brooks Kubik (author of Dinosaur Training) suffered permanent shoulder damage from it.

[Kwon]

I like how the Mentzers are working out so hard in the first vid they look all shiny and stuff.
NO HOMO

The Mentzers were great beings when they were young

Annunaki

[hardgainerj]

Never good as a semiretired arnold

[Straw Man]

I've known 2 people who tore rib cartilage and Brooks Kubik (author of Dinosaur Training) suffered permanent shoulder damage from it.

I found the opposite. It stretched the shoulder joint freeing my locked in shoulders.

I used the BodyMaster pullover machine for 20+ years with no problem at all.  I use a full range of motion and hold the contraction at the bottom of each rep and get a full stretch at the top

I rarely ever see anyone doing this correctly.  They try to pull with their arms rather than pushing with the pad on the elbows and often don't adjust the seat or the range of the motion of the arm bar/pad.

[funk51]

   

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[Sir Bicep]

   

&t=89s

Amazing the human debris Arnold left in his wake.

[Straw Man]

Boyer Coe looked bigger as a teenager with a few years of training (and obviously on drugs) than he did in these training videos which I think are from the mid or late 1980's

[Marty Champions]

   

&t=89s

very sad i feel like ray , that look sometimes
Mike is in a fantasy world

[Humble Narcissist]

I used the BodyMaster pullover machine for 20+ years with no problem at all.  I use a full range of motion and hold the contraction at the bottom of each rep and get a full stretch at the top

I rarely ever see anyone doing this correctly.  They try to pull with their arms rather than pushing with the pad on the elbows and often don't adjust the seat or the range of the motion of the arm bar/pad.

That could have been the problem for them. Pulling with the arms instead of pushing the pads. Many exercises have trainers putting the focus on the wrong place.

[oldtimer1]

I've known 2 people who tore rib cartilage and Brooks Kubik (author of Dinosaur Training) suffered permanent shoulder damage from it.

Makes me wonder if they were using too much weight and that forced their arms back too far.  It does have a safety foot bar to stop the travel. I think it's the best machine Nautilus ever made. I've used it for when it was available to me in college and at work before I retired and never had a problem.

[oldtimer1]

Boyer Coe looked bigger as a teenager with a few years of training (and obviously on drugs) than he did in these training videos which I think are from the mid or late 1980's

I believe he admitted he was off cycle for the Nautilus video taping. He was back to his huge self for contests after those films were taped. I thought he looked damn good for not having any drugs in his system.

[ProudVirgin69]

Makes me wonder if they were using too much weight and that forced their arms back too far.  It does have a safety foot bar to stop the travel. I think it's the best machine Nautilus ever made. I've used it for when it was available to me in college and at work before I retired and never had a problem.

I agree, It’s not the kind of machine to load up with the weights and set PRs.  Couple sets of 10-20 reps and you’ve got a good pump & stretch going. 

[Humble Narcissist]

Makes me wonder if they were using too much weight and that forced their arms back too far.  It does have a safety foot bar to stop the travel. I think it's the best machine Nautilus ever made. I've used it for when it was available to me in college and at work before I retired and never had a problem.

I used in college as well, briefly, as no one used the Nautilus room of equipment.

[Titus Pullo]

Aside from the pullover machine that equipment sucks.

 

Some of the others were quite good IMO, but there were a few I found very awkward, like the "arm cross" on the Double Chest machine, the shrug and the karate chop Multi-Triceps.

The Duo Squat was hellaciously effective for me, but the spinal compression was ridiculous.

[pamith]

Mike Mentzer was one of the very few bbers having long muscle bellies all around.
He sometimes seem to have lacking chest but don't know why! He seem to have great pec attachments, full and long pecs with no gap.
He also lacked back detail/lower traps maybe, but had amazing v taper and waist to delt ratio.

Yes remind me of Yates, had a flat chest during competition. Chest needs more volume to blow up like Arnold's or Ferrigno's chest

[beakdoctor]

I believe he admitted he was off cycle for the Nautilus video taping. He was back to his huge self for contests after those films were taped. I thought he looked damn good for not having any drugs in his system.

Yep. Every one who participated in any Nautilus experiment was supposedly off. I cant remember who said it but one of those bodybuilders back then said Boyer was the only one who kept his word. These films were supposed to document and replicate the results of the famous colorado experiment.  It was supposed to be 'proof'

It didnt work out so well. The Mentzers argued with Jones. Boyer was disappointed in the lack of organization. Everyone left the project before it was finished. Which is a good thing because the only thing it would have proved is that the CO experiment was horseshit..  in the few work outs they had Boyer showed no improvement.

[Humble Narcissist]

Yep. Every one who participated in any Nautilus experiment was supposedly off. I cant remember who said it but one of those bodybuilders back then said Boyer was the only one who kept his word. These films were supposed to document and replicate the results of the famous colorado experiment.  It was supposed to be 'proof'

It didnt work out so well. The Mentzers argued with Jones. Boyer was disappointed in the lack of organization. Everyone left the project before it was finished. Which is a good thing because the only thing it would have proved is that the CO experiment was horseshit..  in the few work outs they had Boyer showed no improvement.

What did the Mentzers argue with Jones about?