NY cops throw kids out of a restaurant for no mask

[wes]

I wouldn`t leave the restaurant until I was put under arrest.....fuck it.,.....wouldn`t be my first rodeo......fucking commies.

Fake Virus Of Peace

[Primemuscle]

It's a shame you were Not around to Advise The Jews you could of saved many Lives 

It's a shame anyone would compare the circumstances around COVID to the Holocaust. -Seems unbelievable excessive.

What percentage of the population are vaccinated against COVID? Were any of these folks held down and the vaccination forced on them? Is their a movement to put unvaccinated folks in prison camps? We are talking about a mandate that disallows folks to be in restaurants unless they can prove they are vaccinated against COVID.

There is nothing new about vaccine mandates. Some states already mandate certain vaccinations for specific categories of adults. New York, for example, requires that all workers in hospitals, nursing homes and other health care facilities be immunized against measles and rubella. Rhode Island requires child care workers to not only be immunized against several common childhood diseases, but to get an annual flu shot, too. Several states have specific vaccination mandates for college students.

Almost every state in the U.S. mandates students through the 12th grade be vaccinated against hepatitis B. A majority of states require student be vaccinated for meningococcal ACWY. All states require k-12 students have vaccinations against diphtheria, tetanus, whooping cough, polio, measles, rubella and chickenpox.   

[joswift]

It's a shame anyone would compare the circumstances around COVID to the Holocaust. -Seems unbelievable excessive.

What percentage of the population are vaccinated against COVID? Were any of these folks held down and the vaccination forced on them? Is their a movement to put unvaccinated folks in prison camps? We are talking about a mandate that disallows folks to be in restaurants unless they can prove they are vaccinated against COVID.

There is nothing new about vaccine mandates. Some states already mandate certain vaccinations for specific categories of adults. New York, for example, requires that all workers in hospitals, nursing homes and other health care facilities be immunized against measles and rubella. Rhode Island requires child care workers to not only be immunized against several common childhood diseases, but to get an annual flu shot, too. Several states have specific vaccination mandates for college students.

Almost every state in the U.S. mandates students through the 12th grade be vaccinated against hepatitis B. A majority of states require student be vaccinated for meningococcal ACWY. All states require k-12 students have vaccinations against diphtheria, tetanus, whooping cough, polio, measles, rubella and chickenpox.   

Do you think the holocuasy started with gas chambers?

Fucks sake man go read some history of early 30s Germany

[Al Doggity]

Saw this video making its rounds across various social media outlets.

A five-year-old boy and his mother were reportedly approached by an NYPD cop for a Covid-19 vaccine certificate. However, when they failed to show any vaccine certification, they were asked to leave the premises.

Frankly, I am disgusted by the actions on display from the NYPD. I have numerous friends that work for the NYPD in varying roles of upper leadership and patrolmen work and even they have said this is disgusting. 10+ officers to remove a mother and her child for not having a vaccination card. I understand that a business has a right to refuse you service, but to traumatize a child this way has no forgiveness. This COVID bullshit has gotten way out of hand. Nothing makes any logical sense anymore. From Fauci displaying a sliding scale of recommendations (1 mask suggested, to even double masking just in case - to - 2 doses for full vaccination - to maybe needing 3-4 doses for FULL vaccination), it's a damn mockery and shows that these people clearly don't have a true grip on this bullshit. COVID fatigue is clearly setting in across the nation and I foresee a revolt sooner or later. People are tired of the government and their draconian tactics. No one is believing this shit anymore. What people are accepting is the fact that all of it has become an infringement upon their rights. The media has served as the perfect agent to monger fear and has allowed for millions of Americans to parrot the bullshit agenda. I am PRO vaccination, in that I believe that if you want a vaccine you should have the right to get it. I am ANTI-MANDATE in that I believe no one should be forced to get a vaccine they are not in agreement with.

In NYC, we don't need to waste law enforcement resources like this. We have serious crimes occurring at the present moment unlike anything we have seen since the 1980s. Numerous people are getting killed every day in NYC by criminals. To make a child go through that is downright shameful and the NYPD has lost any integrity it once had.

Sorry if I seem a bit polarizing with my stance, but I am seeing this nonsense play out on the ground level in NYC and it's disgusting. Also, depending on the area you live in, these mandates are not as strictly enforce. I live in an area called Tribeca and NO COPS would dare go into restaurants to enforce any mandates on patrons. Also, a few of my Jewish orthodox friends that live in certain parts of Brooklyn get no hassle from any cops and they have NO vaccination cards or masks worn. Again, this is a double standard and needs to stop.

"1"

Any "trauma" that was caused should be blamed on the parents who chose to bring their children to a protest, knowing full-well they were in violation of the mandate and being removed from the restaurant was exactly the outcome they should expect.

And, we don't eat out as much as we did pre-pandemic, but one of the few places we've been in the last few months is Carbone (a friend was able to get reservations) and they were very strict about enforcing vaccine and temperature rules. We did see one party leave because a member didn't have a vaccine card.

The mandate being enforced in the video is because MANAGEMENT called the police. I'm not even sure what you're suggesting about Tribeca restaurants (presumably you mean most higher end establishments around the city) , but every place I've been in NYC that had sit down service asked for proof of vaccination. There would never be an influx of sit-down protesters at most higher end eateries because it just wouldn't be possible, but they definitely are enforcing mandates and asking patrons to leave who don't comply.

[Al Doggity]

Do you think the holocuasy started with gas chambers?

Fucks sake man go read some history of early 30s Germany

I saw you post some nonsense like this upthread... when the Nazi party rose to power, anti-Jewish sentiment was one of their primary tenets. It is not something that was tacked on later  in a "slippery slope that no one saw coming. There were multiple unofficial jewish bannings and boycotts that were occurring even before then. This is a terrible comparison you are making. 

eta
initial had a typo in this post that said the nazis were elected- when I reread my post, joswift had already quoted me, in case this was a point anyone was going to reply to and harp on

[joswift]

I saw you post some nonsense like this upthread... when the Nazi party was elected into power, anti-Jewish sentiment was one of their primary tenets. It is not something that was tacked on later  in a "slippery slope that no one saw coming. There were multiple unofficial jewish bannings and boycotts that were occurring even before then. This is a terrible comparison you are making.

People did see it coming and did nothing because it didnt affect them, you dont see the similarities with this pandemic?

[Primemuscle]

I wouldn`t leave the restaurant until I was put under arrest.....fuck it.,.....wouldn`t be my first rodeo......fucking commies.

Fake Virus Of Peace

So this got me wondering if a person can be arrested for violating a mandate (mandates aren't laws as best as I know). The answer isn't too clear because it varies depending on where you are. Apparently, one thing you can get arrested for when violating a mandate and the police get involved is obstructing a police officer, which carries up to a year sentence, and from a $50 to $500 fine in some locations. 

[joswift]

So this got me wondering if a person can be arrested for violating a mandate (mandates aren't laws as best as I know). The answer isn't too clear because it varies depending on where you are. Apparently, one thing you can get arrested for when violating a mandate and the police get involved is obstructing a police officer, which carries up to a year sentence, and from a $50 to $500 fine in some locations.

there were fines handed out in the UK , no one ended up paying them as they were unlawful

[Al Doggity]

People did see it coming and did nothing because it didnt affect them, you dont see the similarities with this pandemic?

Exactly, they could SEE IT COMING.  There is a clear line from the beginning to end as to how and why Nazi Germany ended up the way it did. How or why could anyone ever ended up being thrown in a gas oven for refusing a vaccine. No one is forced to get a vaccine now... there are certain situations where it's required if you want to participate in those activities, but there are perfectly fine alternatives for anyone who doesn't want to. There is absolutely no comparison to nazi germany.

[Primemuscle]

Do you think the holocuasy started with gas chambers?

Fucks sake man go read some history of early 30s Germany

No need to get so worked up about my wording. I originally wrote Nazi Germany, but that can mean a variety of things unrelated to what happen with the Jews in Germany. For example there is currently a Nazi movement in Germany as well as in many other locations. What's more, where did I say the holocaust started with gas chambers...in fact I said absolutely nothing about gas chambers.

[Never1AShow]

Minority populations, whether gay or black or getbigger, ought to be terrified of all this spurious logic segmenting of populations into "clean" and "unclean."

[joswift]

Exactly, they could SEE IT COMING.  There is a clear line from the beginning to end as to how and why Nazi Germany ended up the way it did. How or why could anyone ever ended up being thrown in a gas oven for refusing a vaccine. No one is forced to get a vaccine now... there are certain situations where it's required if you want to participate in those activities, but there are perfectly fine alternatives for anyone who doesn't want to. There is absolutely no comparison to nazi germany.

You mean having a normal life?

Or even a life at all?

Australians are having their homes seized for not following Covid rules and you think this is nothing like pre war Germany?

[Primemuscle]

there were fines handed out in the UK , no one ended up paying them as they were unlawful

That's good. Maybe it would also be the case in the U.S. although English laws may also be different from the laws here. I made a point of saying what could happen depended on where you were. Oregon's governor issued mandates early on in 2020. Some business violated them. A beauty salon owner reopened her business during the shutdown. She was fined $14,000. Courthouse Club, a gym stayed open and was cited in January for an additional $126,749. Neither business has paid the fines. The salon owner sued the governor in circuit court for $100,000. As best as I know her suit is also pending.

[Al Doggity]

You mean having a normal life?

Or even a life at all?

Australians are having their homes seized for not following Covid rules and you think this is nothing like pre war Germany?

You started this thread about an event that happened at a restaurant in NYC. Then you posted that restaurants and cafes were the predecessor to jews winding up in ovens in nazi germany.

Here IN NEW YORK, you can have a pretty normal life without getting a vaccine. There are social settings you can't go unless you're vaccinated, but I think most german jews of the 30s and 40s would be surprised to find out that the worst of their problems was a crimp in their nightlife activities and that getting a vaccine would have kept them out of the ovens.

Most places in nyc, a mask isn't required even though it is suggested .anywhere you can't go because you're not vaccinated, there are easy alternatives, food delivery, workout at home,etc. No comparison to nazi germany ,

Literally every covid related mandate from the last 2 years can be directly tied back to trying to prevent the spread of covid, whether or not you agree with them or think they are effective.  Persecution of the jews was an official nazi party policy since before Hitler came to power. It is not comparable

[Primemuscle]

You mean having a normal life?

Or even a life at all?

Australians are having their homes seized for not following Covid rules and you think this is nothing like pre war Germany?

This is bad. Should COVID continue to mutate with new variants seriously threatening people's lives and instilling additional fear in more and more of the world population, having one's home seized will be nothing as compared to what most likely will happen. Fear is a powerful motivator for both good and bad results.

What is the process leading up to having one's home seized for not following COVID rules and mandates? I thought one of the mandates was to stay at home. Seizing people's homes seems counterintuitive.

[OneMoreRep]

Any "trauma" that was caused should be blamed on the parents who chose to bring their children to a protest, knowing full-well they were in violation of the mandate and being removed from the restaurant was exactly the outcome they should expect.

There's also such a thing as tact when it comes to law enforcement. NYPD officers are selective in how they treat people of influence versus the poor. Much like you can appreciate in racial profiling. Happens more in the Bronx, less in the Upper East Side. For instance, in Tribeca I've seen belligerent business patrons scream at business managers (at the local pharmacy) and when the cops show up, they take their time and keep themselves dispersed as to not cause a scene. They also don't immediately take such a matter-of-fact stance towards affluent individuals. Call it white privilege or merely the fact that in Tribeca we pay exponentially higher taxes than in other places in the city, but the NYPD knows their role and sticks to it.

And, we don't eat out as much as we did pre-pandemic, but one of the few places we've been in the last few months is Carbone (a friend was able to get reservations) and they were very strict about enforcing vaccine and temperature rules. We did see one party leave because a member didn't have a vaccine card.

Carbone is a nice spot. Jeff (one of the co-owners) sometimes visits the same synagogue I go to and gives out invites to the restaurant. I went there once, but it was too fancy for my liking and much too small. I enjoy open venues like Cipriani when big events (like birthday parties) are held there. 

The mandate being enforced in the video is because MANAGEMENT called the police. I'm not even sure what you're suggesting about Tribeca restaurants (presumably you mean most higher end establishments around the city) , but every place I've been in NYC that had sit down service asked for proof of vaccination. There would never be an influx of sit-down protesters at most higher end eateries because it just wouldn't be possible, but they definitely are enforcing mandates and asking patrons to leave who don't comply.

I mean that these mandates aren't as enforced in select places that are typically higher end spots. Business owners have a clientele that they cater to that keep their businesses alive regardless of the season, be it political, economic or COVID climate. Business owners know who to poke for vaccination cards and who to not. There's a reason why De Blasio takes to the airwaves to preach his strict mandate policies, but in his free time can be seen working out at his favorite Brooklyn gym with no mask, while going to Le Bernardin with men of questionable sexual orientation, yet not care about strolling right in without a mask or a vaccination card to display. It's a "do as I say and not as I do" phenomenon and it really needs to stop. Above everything else, we are human beings and should care for each other.

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[joswift]

This is bad. Should COVID continue to mutate with new variants seriously threatening people's lives and instilling additional fear in more and more of the world population, having one's home seized will be nothing as compared to what most likely will happen. Fear is a powerful motivator for both good and bad results.

What is the process leading up to having one's home seized for not following COVID rules and mandates? I thought one of the mandates was to stay at home. Seizing people's homes seems counterintuitive.

Covid hasnt spread fear in anyone, its governments that have done that.

In Italy anyone over 60 not vaccinated will have to pay 300 eauros a month from February next year

If your home gets seized you end up here. https://unherd.com/thepost/inside-australias-covid-internment-camp/

[WalterWhite]

Covid hasnt spread fear in anyone, its governments that have done that.

In Italy anyone over 60 not vaccinated will have to pay 300 eauros a month from February next year

If your home gets seized you end up here. https://unherd.com/thepost/inside-australias-covid-internment-camp/

Meanwhile my pcp has not even brought up the vax and doesn't offer it. He is part of the largest physician group in NH. I would be in trouble if I lived in my fathers home country.🇮🇹 🤷🏼

[Al Doggity]

There's also such a thing as tact when it comes to law enforcement. NYPD officers are selective in how they treat people of influence versus the poor. Much like you can appreciate in racial profiling. Happens more in the Bronx, less in the Upper East Side. For instance, in Tribeca I've seen belligerent business patrons scream at business managers (at the local pharmacy) and when the cops show up, they take their time and keep themselves dispersed as to not cause a scene. They also don't immediately take such a matter-of-fact stance towards affluent individuals. Call it white privilege or merely the fact that in Tribeca we pay exponentially higher taxes than in other places in the city, but the NYPD knows their role and sticks to it.

The way you described the incident in your previous post isn't consistent with what happened or what you seem to be saying here. There were multiple people there without vaccination cards, presumably specifically to protest the mandate who were asked to leave and cops were called by management . In your previous post, tact wasn't brought up, the only issue you brought up was enforcement, and under those circumstances, enforcement would happen in any NYC neighborhood.

I mean that these mandates aren't as enforced in select places that are typically higher end spots. Business owners have a clientele that they cater to that keep their businesses alive regardless of the season, be it political, economic or COVID climate. Business owners know who to poke for vaccination cards and who to not.

I'm gonna have to disagree with this. Controversy surrounding the vaccine is way more muted among white collar new yorkers than it appears to be with other segments of the country. I'm not saying that every person of influence in NYC is a vaccine supporter, but it's definitely clearly the majority and if high-end clientele got the impression that mandates weren't being followed in a fairly standard way then it would cause more reputational damage here than somewhere like texas or florida.

eta I haven't heard or read about a rash of establishments  in the outer boroughs or minority neighborhoods being hit with enforcement. As a matter of fact, the only major enforcement story I remember from the tri-state area besides the video in this thread was at that gym that seemed to be majority white.

[Tapeworm]

Is their a movement to put unvaccinated folks in prison camps?   

Yes. In Austria, from February.

You'd support that policy or not support it?

[Zillotch]

I've become a bit of a hardnose about COVID. If the unvaccinated and unmasked can mess with the quality of my life...I've decided it is time to return the favor. 

A Ram is also a sheep...one you don't want to mess with.

Should COVID continue to mutate with new variants seriously threatening people's lives and instilling additional fear in more and more of the world population, having one's home seized will be nothing as compared to what most likely will happen.

know your enemy 

it will get worse... the pressure will intensify greatly.

the snake will continue to constrict humanity into submission.

the 'vaxxed' will b further weaponized against the vexed.

more lockdowns... complete loss of autonomy over time - millions of bodies, that cant b concealed.

all of which will b blamed on the sane - those who rightly reject becoming a modified abomination.

buckle up.

there is no choice... these imbeciles r not even capable of 'choice' - they cannot see reality.

there is only the manipulation of tards – tards that can b molded in any way... led to believe anything at all... used as a tool for any purpose.

the reason this evil will inevitably come to your front door and b 'forced' (and it will)... is because of the compliant.

[Never1AShow]

Almost every state in the U.S. mandates students through the 12th grade be vaccinated against hepatitis B. A majority of states require student be vaccinated for meningococcal ACWY. All states require k-12 students have vaccinations against diphtheria, tetanus, whooping cough, polio, measles, rubella and chickenpox.   

Those vaccines had long trial periods and histories of looking at side effects.  The current Covid vaccines have no such thing.  Also information on side effects is actively suppressed and censored as never before in history.  Those diseases are also much more harmful to kids than Covid.

[Lartinos]

What’s wrong with forcing children to take well known dangerous drugs they don’t need to eat at a restaurant?

These cops are heroes protecting everyone from these harmless children trying to live a normal life.

[illuminati]

Those vaccines had long trial periods and histories of looking at side effects.  The current Covid vaccines have no such thing.  Also information on side effects is actively suppressed and censored as never before in history.  Those diseases are also much more harmful to kids than Covid.

X2 Thats far to much Fact & Rational sense in one post for The Brainwashed Prime to be able to Acknowledge
& Take in.  - He is part of the clinical trials on these new vaccines & is more than Happy about it.
Considering he wasn't consulted & made aware of the Pro's & Cons - Unbelievable 

[illuminati]

It's a shame anyone would compare the circumstances around COVID to the Holocaust. -Seems unbelievable excessive.

What percentage of the population are vaccinated against COVID? Were any of these folks held down and the vaccination forced on them? Is their a movement to put unvaccinated folks in prison camps? We are talking about a mandate that disallows folks to be in restaurants unless they can prove they are vaccinated against COVID.

There is nothing new about vaccine mandates. Some states already mandate certain vaccinations for specific categories of adults. New York, for example, requires that all workers in hospitals, nursing homes and other health care facilities be immunized against measles and rubella. Rhode Island requires child care workers to not only be immunized against several common childhood diseases, but to get an annual flu shot, too. Several states have specific vaccination mandates for college students.

Almost every state in the U.S. mandates students through the 12th grade be vaccinated against hepatitis B. A majority of states require student be vaccinated for meningococcal ACWY. All states require k-12 students have vaccinations against diphtheria, tetanus, whooping cough, polio, measles, rubella and chickenpox.   

Why is it you are unable to see whats happening in many countries around the world to many many people
In The name of their health & benefit & Yet not see The Stark Parallels of What Started & went on in Germany.

Until They Come Knocking at Your Door for You & Yours.
Wake The Fuck Up - This has fuck all to do with Anyone's Health.

Surely you must see /hear the constant lies & inconsistencies & ignoring of their own rules & Advice
Yet You Some how Manage to Totally Avoid / reject any of That -How ??
Regardless of if your for or not China Virus vaccine - How do you Manage to Square that circle.!!