Covid-19 - Was Covid ever real? Conspiracy Theory?

[Fortress]

Nothing has been done to me or my family. We are all fine. Sorry about the UK's economy and whatever effect it has had on you personally. My family's and my economic status is as healthy as ever.


In Oregon, strong job gains continued into the early months of 2022. By April 2022, we had regained about nine out of 10 jobs that were lost in the pandemic recession. Prior to the pandemic recession, it took nearly six years (69 months) to add as many jobs (248,000) as in the two years since April 2020.

Who could possibly respect you?

You’re a suckass clown who’s swapped loads.

Fuck off.

[Primemuscle]

Hi Prime, are you not wanting to answer the below , you asked me a question & I answered it for you,
Why would you want to avoid answering ??.............


My point is a Very Clear & Simple one . HERE,
You did some or all of the above which I stated for a Deadly Infectious Virus
Flu as you very well know is an equally Deadly & Infectious Virus Killing around 36,000 a year in America
The 7th leading cause of Death!!
So why don't you & all the others that did all the above nonsense for the deadly China Virus do exactly
The same to prevent the spread of Flu as You all Believed the Above was so Effective??

or don't you care about spreading Flu & Killing People. 
Seems very Hypocritical to Me.


And Yes you are 100% correct I did everything I possibly could to not comply with any of the Stupid/ Ridiculous &
Dictator control restrictions - Hey I even managed to travel by plane without  a face Nappy or having any
T.E.MRNA Vaccines 🤣😂🤣 They want to try making me act Stupid they have to try a lot harder.

Thanks to computers & Internet its Amazing what you can find & print.

I was not aware I was avoiding answering you. Now that you mentioned it, there are a couple of reasons I don't wear a mask during 'flu season' every year. Mainly, it is that this has never been suggested or mandated and another is that I have never had the flu or if I have, I am not aware of it. Although the flu vaccine has been recommended for many years, I only recently started having one each year primarily because my doctor kept asking me if I did. Also, I tend to avoid breaking the law. If that means I am a sheep, so be it. I'd rather be a sheep that is free to roam around eating grass until I bloat than be the lone wolf who gets shot dead by some sheep herder because I threatened his flock.

I don't know all the statistics but what percentage of people who catch the flu, die from it? While according to you 36,000 people dying from the flu each year in the U.S. is noteworthy, it is a far cry from the number of folks in the U.S. who died because they got COVID. In 2020 and 2021 the reported number of people who died with or from COVID in the U.S. is ten times the number who die each year from the flu; 352,000 in 2020 and 353,000 in 2021.

Clearly it annoys you when the government tells you to do something. It annoys me too, just not as much as it does you. What  is also irritating is when people get on my case because I choose to follow certain rules. How about I don't tell you what to do and you don't tell me what to do either. I don't think I ever gave you or anyone one else a hard time because they didn't follow COVID mandates. If I did, I did not mean to. I strive to be a 'live and let live' kind of fellow.

I thought you and I had agreed to disagree on this subject?

[Soul Crusher]

Sorry to hear about your business, Soul. Hopefully, it and you have recovered in the last couple of years since the NYC lockdowns which if I am not mistaken ended in 2021.

Nobody I know personally, seems to have been affected negatively in any major way, as in losing their jobs. One of the gyms I go to closed. They made no mention of it being because of Governor Brown's COVID mandates which they did not follow anyway since they remained open the whole time.

 Yeah you fng senile old moron.   You are all out of the workforce and on SS.    Holy S are you dumb. 

[Matt]

Nothing has been done to me or my family. We are all fine. Sorry about the UK's economy and whatever effect it has had on you personally. My family's and my economic status is as healthy as ever.


In Oregon, strong job gains continued into the early months of 2022. By April 2022, we had regained about nine out of 10 jobs that were lost in the pandemic recession. Prior to the pandemic recession, it took nearly six years (69 months) to add as many jobs (248,000) as in the two years since April 2020.

Post the obituary of your friend who died of Covid, you lying fuck.

[Andy Griffin]

Who could possibly respect you?

You’re a suckass clown who’s swapped loads.

Fuck off.

You and The Scott are the two wordsmiths I strive to emulate.

[Primemuscle]

Post the obituary of your friend who died of Covid, you lying fuck.

I am such a fool to believe there is anything about you that makes communicating with you worth my time.

You have a lot of nerve calling me a ‘lying fuck’. Who the hell do you think you are, Matt? Over decades  of knowing you, I made multiple efforts to either ignore or forgive you your absurd and grossly impolite nonsense because you are autistic, and you are an asshole of the highest degree.

Just for the record, one of the folks was my son-in-law's uncle, who for the family's privacy I will not provide you any details other than to say his only possible contributing condition was his age and he was younger than me.

The other person was a schoolteacher who a good friend of mine worked with many years. She was an unvaccinated 46-year-old Estacada teacher dies from COVID-19 - https://www.estacadanews.com/news/as-estacada-mourns-teacher-union-expresses-safety-concerns/article_9e15dfa6-3be1-5fb3-912c-9524aeb09e1f.htUnlike you, I have nothing to prove. If you want to believe COVID is a hoax, be my guest. You mean nothing to me. I don’t really give a rat’s ass what you think about COVID.

If you hope to be awarded the biggest piece of shit person on the planet, you just won that award. We are done!

[Andy Griffin]

I am such a fool to believe there is anything about you that makes communicating with you worth my time.

Then writes multiple paragraphs.  Dumb ass polesmoker.

[Matt]

I am such a fool to believe there is anything about you that makes communicating with you worth my time.

You have a lot of nerve calling me a ‘lying fuck’. Who the hell do you think you are, Matt? Over decades  of knowing you, I made multiple efforts to either ignore or forgive you your absurd and grossly impolite nonsense because you are autistic, and you are an asshole of the highest degree.

Just for the record, one of the folks was my son-in-law's uncle, who for the family's privacy I will not provide you any details other than to say his only possible contributing condition was his age and he was younger than me.

The other person was a schoolteacher who a good friend of mine worked with many years. She was an unvaccinated 46-year-old Estacada teacher dies from COVID-19 - https://www.estacadanews.com/news/as-estacada-mourns-teacher-union-expresses-safety-concerns/article_9e15dfa6-3be1-5fb3-912c-9524aeb09e1f.htUnlike you, I have nothing to prove. If you want to believe COVID is a hoax, be my guest. You mean nothing to me. I don’t really give a rat’s ass what you think about COVID.

If you hope to be awarded the biggest piece of shit person on the planet, you just won that award. We are done!

First off, here is a working link for the link you posted:

https://www.estacadanews.com/news/as-estacada-mourns-teacher-union-expresses-safety-concerns/article_9e15dfa6-3be1-5fb3-912c-9524aeb09e1f.html

Secondly, "your son-in-law's uncle"?

Your son-in-law's uncle?!

Your daughter is 47 years old! Meaning her husband is likely pushing 50, and his uncle was probably OVER 80 when he died.

WHY THE FUCK would I worry about a virus because you know ONE old fuck who died? People that age can literally drop dead at any time, in case you didn't notice.

And you gave one other example - a 46-year-old woman named Samantha Fox - but because she shares the same name with a porn star, it's impossible to know how she died.

If she was ventilated at the hospital, then she did NOT die of Covid - she was medically murdered. And I have good reason to believe, given she died two years ago, that she did not "die of Covid", but in fact, died due to ventilation.

But even if she did die directly of Covid - you have ONE example. ONE FUCKING EXAMPLE. By having ONE example, you just prove my point: Covid is nothing, and virtually zero risk to a young person, and is not worth me taking part in a MEDICAL EXPERIMENT over.

Thank you for proving my point!

Lying fuck.

RIP to your 88-year-old son-in-law's uncle who died. While I'm at it, RIP to Tom's niece's boyfriend's elderly grandfather who did.

And ultimately, thank you for proving that Covid is not a major risk to anyone in the non-vulnerable group, and all you can do is cherry-pick individual exceptions now, just like I can post examples of people who died of the vaccine, which, BY THE WAY, has just been banned [boosters] for people under 75 in the UK.

[Matt]

Then writes multiple paragraphs.  Dumb ass polesmoker.

 

It really disgusts me that Prime condones his daughter getting boosters when she was HOSPITALIZED after getting one as per his thread:

https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=676436.0

[Humble Narcissist]

It really disgusts me that Prime condones his daughter getting boosters when she was HOSPITALIZED after getting one as per his thread:

https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=676436.0

Denial is not a river in Egypt.

[loco]

'Every American should be outraged': This US watchdog uncovered $5.4 billion in potentially fraudulent COVID-19 loans — obtained using over 69K sketchy Social Security numbers

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/deeply-disturbing-u-watchdog-uncovers-150000764.html

[illuminati]

I was not aware I was avoiding answering you. Now that you mentioned it, there are a couple of reasons I don't wear a mask during 'flu season' every year. Mainly, it is that this has never been suggested or mandated and another is that I have never had the flu or if I have, I am not aware of it. Although the flu vaccine has been recommended for many years, I only recently started having one each year primarily because my doctor kept asking me if I did. Also, I tend to avoid breaking the law. If that means I am a sheep, so be it. I'd rather be a sheep that is free to roam around eating grass until I bloat than be the lone wolf who gets shot dead by some sheep herder because I threatened his flock.

I don't know all the statistics but what percentage of people who catch the flu, die from it? While according to you 36,000 people dying from the flu each year in the U.S. is noteworthy, it is a far cry from the number of folks in the U.S. who died because they got COVID. In 2020 and 2021 the reported number of people who died with or from COVID in the U.S. is ten times the number who die each year from the flu; 352,000 in 2020 and 353,000 in 2021.

Clearly it annoys you when the government tells you to do something. It annoys me too, just not as much as it does you. What  is also irritating is when people get on my case because I choose to follow certain rules. How about I don't tell you what to do and you don't tell me what to do either. I don't think I ever gave you or anyone one else a hard time because they didn't follow COVID mandates. If I did, I did not mean to. I strive to be a 'live and let live' kind of fellow.

I thought you and I had agreed to disagree on this subject?

Totally we do not agree - does that mean we can't pose questions & try to understand the logic thinking
Behind our actions & beliefs ??

1, Are you aware of the Milgram experiment??

2, Also the 350,000 deaths attributed to China Virus is hugely inaccurate
How many died due to the virus & not with or in the Ridiculous 28days after supposedly having the virus,
Remove them 2 parameters & deaths would be vastly reduced.

3, You didn't explain why one deadly virus needed such measures & (look it up ) the 7th leading cause of death each year
In America doesn't- that appears very at odds behavior- to do one set of actions for one airborne virus (China) of a very similar to flu & just carry on as I do each & every year with the flu virus !!

4, Is death by China virus worse than death by Flu ??
And yes you & others are free to follow the mandates if you so wish - would you follow the exact same mandates
If they now applied them to the Flu virus. ?

5, Its not that the government telling me what to do is annoying it was when they were blatantly lying & trying to
Get me to act & behave like a foolish idiot that was annoying & insulting .

6, Have you seen / read the many texts from Matt Hancock exposing very clearly the lies & that they were just
Making things up & openly Laughing at the public & their behaviour following the mandates, are you not angry / annoyed
By any of That. ?

7, Do you like/enjoy being mocked & lied to & told to do Ridiculous nonsense things ?
That's exactly what they were doing - the texts prove it, oh & before you say that was in the UK
America , UK & some other countries did the the exact same mandates.
All following the same script. Thank Fuck I saw straight through the lies & nonsense actions they wanted me to
Perform- The embarrassment from knowing afterwards would be unbearable for me had I fallen for their lies
& clown like behavior they wanted me to do.

8, Fuck that wearing a cloth on my face / 6ft distance/ opening windows in the winter / standing up with nappy on
Sit down take it off / closed small shops yet huge supermarkets left open / one way system in them / closing gyms / recreational areas / locking folk in their home / don't go outside - no sunlight / vit d / weaking ones immune system
/ etc etc etc all in the supposed good for your Health- in fact it was doing the exact opposite to your health making
Your immune system weaker & much more vulnerable to serious infection.

[Soul Crusher]

[Primemuscle]

Totally we do not agree - does that mean we can't pose questions & try to understand the logic thinking Behind our actions & beliefs ??

I agree reflection is good if it does not become an obsession.

1, Are you aware of the Milgram experiment??

I am. By nature, I am not particularly trusting, but I like to think I am easy going. Maybe my one personality trait balances the other. As I mentioned, I was not personally greatly impacted by COVID or  COVID mandates. However, I feel bad for those who were. I also have a lot of empathy for those who lost family and friends to COVID. Imagine how awful it would be for someone who suffered a great loss to be told that the whole COVID thing was just a hoax.

2, Also the 350,000 deaths attributed to China Virus is hugely inaccurate. How many died due to the virus & not with or in the Ridiculous 28days after supposedly having the virus. Remove them 2 parameters & deaths would be vastly reduced.

How inaccurate is it in terms of actual numbers? Is it inaccurate enough to account for the difference between the number of flu deaths and COVID deaths... in other words is it 90% inaccurate?

3, You didn't explain why one deadly virus needed such measures & (look it up ) the 7th leading cause of death each year
In America doesn't- that appears very at odds behavior- to do one set of actions for one airborne virus (China) of a very similar to flu & just carry on as I do each & every year with the flu virus !!

There are over 300,000 different viruses which can infect mammals. Some are beneficial in that they fight other harmful viruses. Suffice it to say, not all viruses are equal.

According to this chart. COVID ranks much higher for cause of death daily in the U.S for 2021.

 

4, Is death by China virus worse than death by Flu ?? And yes you & others are free to follow the mandates if you so wish - would you follow the exact same mandates If they now applied them to the Flu virus. ?

I have no idea if one is worse than the other since I am still alive and since I never knowing had the flu nor do I know of anyone who died from it. ER treatment for severe flu symptoms can include giving the patients fluids to prevent dehydration. Some people who are hospitalized with COVID require intubation which can sometimes last for several weeks. Intubation seems much more invasive, and I would imagine uncomfortable than having an IV to prevent dehydration. 

If mandates were in place to prevent the spread of the flu virus, I would follow them as best as I could, same as I did with COVID.

5, Its not that the government telling me what to do is annoying it was when they were blatantly lying & trying to Get me to act & behave like a foolish idiot that was annoying & insulting .

If I thought the government was blatantly and intentionally lying to me about COVID, I would be annoyed. However sometimes a lack of knowledge requires a folks to make a best guess. This to me is not the same as a blatant lie.

6, Have you seen / read the many texts from Matt Hancock exposing very clearly the lies & that they were just
Making things up & openly Laughing at the public & their behaviour following the mandates, are you not angry / annoyed By any of That. ?

To be honest, I never heard of Matt Handcock, but then I don't live in GB where he was once Health Secretary. After reading a little about him, he seems controversial. He also appears to be someone who easily does an about face when it suits him. But I could be wrong since, as I said, I never heard of him before now.

7, Do you like/enjoy being mocked & lied to & told to do Ridiculous nonsense things ? That's exactly what they were doing - the texts prove it, oh & before you say that was in the UK, America , UK & some other countries did the the exact same mandates.
All following the same script. Thank Fuck I saw straight through the lies & nonsense actions they wanted me to
Perform- The embarrassment from knowing afterwards would be unbearable for me had I fallen for their lies & clown like behavior they wanted me to do.

I already covered my feelings about being lied to. Nobody was prepared for the COVID pandemic. Folks who are a lot more knowledgeable than I am about viruses, where required to make best guesses because society expects answers even when there are none to be had. It is hard for us to except that sometimes there are no answers, just more questions.

8, Fuck that wearing a cloth on my face / 6ft distance/ opening windows in the winter / standing up with nappy on Sit down take it off / closed small shops yet huge supermarkets left open / one way system in them / closing gyms / recreational areas / locking folk in their home / don't go outside - no sunlight / vit d / weaking ones immune system / etc etc etc all in the supposed good for your Health- in fact it was doing the exact opposite to your health making Your immune system weaker & much more vulnerable to serious infection.

Isn't it great that there are venues like Getbig where you can blow off steam and express your personal opinions about various matters?

[Primemuscle]

Yeah you fng senile old moron.   You are all out of the workforce and on SS.    Holy S are you dumb.

Never assume. You don't know this. Many of my friends and family are people who are employed and some who own their own businesses. I am not going to go so far as to call you dumb, but you didn't give your post much thought, or you'd realize most people know a variety of people from all walks of life and all ages.

For example, my son and daughter-in-law live in Germany and they both work as do my grandchildren there. My grandson and his fiancée who live in Oregon are employed. I have several nieces and nephews who live all over the states and in Europe. Some own businesses or are self-employed; others are employed by major corporations and smaller businesses. My friends and associates include folks of all ages and varying economic circumstances.

Sorry if you live in a bubble where everyone you know is a carbon copy of you. If this is true, you unfortunately have a very limited perspective. 

[illuminati]

I agree reflection is good if it does not become an obsession.

I am. By nature, I am not particularly trusting, but I like to think I am easy going. Maybe my one personality trait balances the other. As I mentioned, I was not personally greatly impacted by COVID or  COVID mandates. However, I feel bad for those who were. I also have a lot of empathy for those who lost family and friends to COVID. Imagine how awful it would be for someone who suffered a great loss to be told that the whole COVID thing was just a hoax.

How inaccurate is it in terms of actual numbers? Is it inaccurate enough to account for the difference between the number of flu deaths and COVID deaths... in other words is it 90% inaccurate?
 

There are over 300,000 different viruses which can infect mammals. Some are beneficial in that they fight other harmful viruses. Suffice it to say, not all viruses are equal.

According to this chart. COVID ranks much higher for cause of death daily in the U.S for 2021.

 

I have no idea if one is worse than the other since I am still alive and since I never knowing had the flu nor do I know of anyone who died from it. ER treatment for severe flu symptoms can include giving the patients fluids to prevent dehydration. Some people who are hospitalized with COVID require intubation which can sometimes last for several weeks. Intubation seems much more invasive, and I would imagine uncomfortable than having an IV to prevent dehydration. 

If mandates were in place to prevent the spread of the flu virus, I would follow them as best as I could, same as I did with COVID.

If I thought the government was blatantly and intentionally lying to me about COVID, I would be annoyed. However sometimes a lack of knowledge requires a folks to make a best guess. This to me is not the same as a blatant lie.

To be honest, I never heard of Matt Handcock, but then I don't live in GB where he was once Health Secretary. After reading a little about him, he seems controversial. He also appears to be someone who easily does an about face when it suits him. But I could be wrong since, as I said, I never heard of him before now.

I already covered my feelings about being lied to. Nobody was prepared for the COVID pandemic. Folks who are a lot more knowledgeable than I am about viruses, where required to make best guesses because society expects answers even when there are none to be had. It is hard for us to except that sometimes there are no answers, just more questions.

Isn't it great that there are venues like Getbig where you can blow off steam and express your personal opinions about various matters?

You still believe the governments & MSM weren't deliberately lying ?

They knew well ahead the Planned-Demic was going to happen & what they would do.
None of it was for the betterment of yours or anyone else's Health.

They just wanted to inject folk with varying amounts of MRNA T.E.VACCINE which they did & also ruin many
A business & further push the elimination of cash .

The death rate in uk is running at around 1500+ excess deaths over thr 5yr average & in many other countries including
The USA Its the same with unusual high excess deaths,  let alone how many are suffering from long term damage from
The awful MRNA T.E.VACCINE- Yet there's still a few on this board who will not remotely accept the MRNA T.E.Vaccine
Is responsible or even accept they could be responsible!!!
What to do you attribute these excess deaths in all these vaccinated countries to Then ??

The utter mind blindness & refusal of those that will not see there is something very Strange & wrong going on
is truly staggering - it Bewilders & fascinates me what has
Happened to their minds reasoning / critical thinking & logica thinking ability regarding the huge numbers
Of deaths & negative effects.

Even your own daughter you have said had a bad negative reaction & had to be hospitalized !!
Does that Not Bother you ? Ring alarm bells as so many others have suffered the same & far worse !
How do you rationalise these Vaccines are ok ??

Jeez They've openly admitting the Vaccines don't stop you getting China Virus or Stop you infecting others
& They MAY HELP prevent China Virus hitting you hard - Emphasis on MAY not it will.


I'm trying desperately to understand how your Critical / Logical & Reasoning thinking is telling you
These MRNA T.E.Vaccines are Safe & Worth while.

[Gym Rat]

 

[Andy Griffin]

It's a clown world we live in at the moment.

[tommywishbone]

'Every American should be outraged': This US watchdog uncovered $5.4 billion in potentially fraudulent COVID-19 loans — obtained using over 69K sketchy Social Security numbers

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/deeply-disturbing-u-watchdog-uncovers-150000764.html

 

That number is way too low. I know idiot friends who stole $300,000 each from covid relief funds. One guy scored almost $700,000… but his business was on the hook to repay the $700,000… but the entire business and all the employees were fictitious…. Everything was fake.

Pure folly.

[joswift]

 

That number is way too low. I know idiot friends who stole $300,000 each from covid relief funds. One guy scored almost $700,000… but his business was on the hook to repay the $700,000… but the entire business and all the employees were fictitious…. Everything was fake.

Pure folly.

Yep, I know people who went on Companies House and looked for business that had ceased trading and applied for grants on them.
They were processing so many they seldom checked.

[Gym Rat]

"COVID" 

HA ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

[illuminati]

Thats a joke pic yet it is so true for so very many
They don't / can't see the irony or how worked & stupid they really are !!

Some very deep & clever mind Fuckwittery worked on Them.

[Thin Lizzy]

'Every American should be outraged': This US watchdog uncovered $5.4 billion in potentially fraudulent COVID-19 loans — obtained using over 69K sketchy Social Security numbers

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/deeply-disturbing-u-watchdog-uncovers-150000764.html

The Government has a built in excuse:

“We knew there was the potential for fraud, but there was a dire emergency and we had to act fast”

Again, it all comes down to whether you believe it’s legit.

[Gym Rat]

The Government has a built in excuse:

“We knew there was the potential for fraud, but there was a dire emergency and we had to act fast”

Again, it all comes down to whether you believe it’s legit.

whoever believes their govt must be braindead sheep. Oh, wait a minute...

[Primemuscle]

You still believe the governments & MSM weren't deliberately lying ?

They knew well ahead the Planned-Demic was going to happen & what they would do.
None of it was for the betterment of yours or anyone else's Health.

They just wanted to inject folk with varying amounts of MRNA T.E.VACCINE which they did & also ruin many
A business & further push the elimination of cash .

The death rate in uk is running at around 1500+ excess deaths over thr 5yr average & in many other countries including
The USA Its the same with unusual high excess deaths,  let alone how many are suffering from long term damage from
The awful MRNA T.E.VACCINE- Yet there's still a few on this board who will not remotely accept the MRNA T.E.Vaccine
Is responsible or even accept they could be responsible!!!
What to do you attribute these excess deaths in all these vaccinated countries to Then ??

The utter mind blindness & refusal of those that will not see there is something very Strange & wrong going on
is truly staggering - it Bewilders & fascinates me what has
Happened to their minds reasoning / critical thinking & logica thinking ability regarding the huge numbers
Of deaths & negative effects.

Even your own daughter you have said had a bad negative reaction & had to be hospitalized !!
Does that Not Bother you ? Ring alarm bells as so many others have suffered the same & far worse !
How do you rationalise these Vaccines are ok ??

Jeez They've openly admitting the Vaccines don't stop you getting China Virus or Stop you infecting others
& They MAY HELP prevent China Virus hitting you hard - Emphasis on MAY not it will.


I'm trying desperately to understand how your Critical / Logical & Reasoning thinking is telling you
These MRNA T.E.Vaccines are Safe & Worth while.

Let’s be real here. My daughter's reaction was an upset stomach which caused her to vomit. As a result of not being able to keep anything down, she became dehydrated. My son-in-law took her to an ER where they rehydrated her. Once she was stable which was a couple of hours later, she was released and came home... end of story. Don't make more of it than it was. She was never on death's door.

It is not unheard of for someone to have cyclical vomiting which dehydrates them. My son-in-law and his brother both have CVS (cyclical vomiting syndrome and have frequently had to go to the hospital because of it. 3 out of every 1,000 people have CVS. 

The flu and other viruses often have symptoms which can lead to dehydration including fever, coughing, diarrhea and vomiting in addition to a loss of appetite. My daughter previously went to the hospital a few times because she got dehydrated from the flu.

We all assumed that it was due to a bad reaction to the COVID booster she had the day before because it seemed like logical connection.

There is a lot of discussion about whether folks die from COVID or from comorbidities. Similarly, some people like me develop other conditions following a run in with COVID. I got pneumonia and vertigo within a week or so of testing positive for COVID. The vertigo and some hearing loss lasted for a few months. I blamed it on "long" COVID. But there is no proof that COVID was the cause, it was an assumption probably because there's been a lot of talk about long-COVID.