Russia triggering the US - situation not bad

[Mayday]

So it seems the Ukraine President told Biden the situation isn’t anywhere near as bad as the US makes it out to be. Apparently no change on their borders from the usual.

Even told Biden to calm down during their talk and said the US is scaring the Ukraine people and causing economic damage.

This is Covid all over again with mass scare campaigns but now blaming Russia to hide their own warmongering agenda. Perhaps  the simplest question gives the answer: If it was truly as bad as the US says, why isn’t Europe going bananas over this before the US?

[BossBoss]

..why isn’t Europe going bananas over this before the US?

What should we do exactly?
Russia will take the Ukraine and Germany and Europe won't do anything.

[Humble Narcissist]

What should we do exactly?
Russia will take the ukraine and germany and europe won't do anything.

Would be an upgrade for Germany.

[BossBoss]

Would be an upgrade for Germany.

Maybe the US. can send some of theire soldiers to protect the ukraine border:

[Mayday]

What should we do exactly?
Russia will take the Ukraine and Germany and Europe won't do anything.

Meaning the Ukraine giving the correct picture of events and so is Europe.

All we are hearing in Oz is how Russia is about to invade at any moment and blow the shit out of everybody.

Meanwhile the Ukraine is saying they aren’t going to be invaded, Russia are saying they won’t invade, Europe isn’t doing anything which pretty much says they don’t think any invasion is happening.

Ie The US is blasting the invasion message out of their own interests which is psyop propaganda.

[Randomum]

Europe is powerless as they depend on Russia for oil. Their economic situation isn't the best after covid either. No oil probably would be a bad idea as its winter too.

[deadz]

US. needs to implement economic sanctions on Russia, this ends .

[Tapeworm]

The dude knows that the US will leave his ass twisting in the wind just like we have everyone else. He needs to pick a side so he's accepting Russian satellitehood.

Putin is not a nice man and the whole thing isn't make believe. Doesn't mean I think the US should get involved. Nor do I think the US would fare very well if it got involved. Neither would Australia, since the US would be too overextended to defend it from China.

[BossBoss]

Meaning the Ukraine giving the correct picture of events and so is Europe.

All we are hearing in Oz is how Russia is about to invade at any moment and blow the shit out of everybody.

I think They will invade the Ukraine and they will do it in the near future.
They did it with the Crimean peninsula before and they won't stop after the Ukraine..

Meanwhile the Ukraine is saying they aren’t going to be invaded, Russia are saying they won’t invade,

Ukraine is saying they aren’t going to be invaded because they don't wan't to trigger a war with many different parties involved.
They don't wan't to be the battleground and i think they don't wan't the US. to get involved.
That would be the absolute worst what can happen to them.
 
"Russia are saying they won’t invade,.." i don't believe it..the troops are there for a reason.

Meaning the Ukraine giving the correct picture of events and so is Europe.

..Europe isn’t doing anything which pretty much says they don’t think any invasion is happening.

Europe won't do anything against it even if there is a invasion starting tomorow.

Ie The US is blasting the invasion message out of their own interests which is psyop propaganda.

Why would they do that? What would be the benefit from that?

[honest]

The expansion of NATO is the issue and the installation of the defensive weapon systems that come with it. I couldn't imagine the US being happy if Russia or China wanted to sign a defence treaty with Mexico and place defensive weapon systems there similar. If they put them in they neutralise the russian threat whilst growing US and NATO quick strike capability, the russians are just letting the world know this is unacceptable and most reasonable people understand and appreciate that position. Ukraine as well, its just slow Joe trying to create a distraction as he's just thrown his country and the world into hyper inflation driving irresponsible climate targets and that's without getting most of his spending bills past, the guy is an economic retard.

[Humble Narcissist]

The dude knows that the US will leave his ass twisting in the wind just like we have everyone else. He needs to pick a side so he's accepting Russian satellitehood.

Putin is not a nice man and the whole thing isn't make believe. Doesn't mean I think the US should get involved. Nor do I think the US would fare very well if it got involved. Neither would Australia, since the US would be too overextended to defend it from China.

Good point.

[Mayday]

US. needs to implement economic sanctions on Russia, this ends .

The US made the threat about booting a Russia out of the swift banking system. That’s why Russia is balls deep in crypto. China is backing El Salvador green energy for crypto mining.

It’s Partly why Biden is writing the executive order on crypto.

The dude knows that the US will leave his ass twisting in the wind just like we have everyone else. He needs to pick a side so he's accepting Russian satellitehood.

Putin is not a nice man and the whole thing isn't make believe. Doesn't mean I think the US should get involved. Nor do I think the US would fare very well if it got involved. Neither would Australia, since the US would be too overextended to defend it from China.

Oz is in bed with China but we don’t want to admit it. China made us very, very rich. We have US bases being built here. I can’t really see outright physical war. They’ve taken down a major bank here and our entire mobile internet network before. They run most cloud services so simply turn that off and we aren’t able to do jack. Cripple us completely without a bullet fired.

[IroNat]

The US made the threat about booting a Russia out of the swift banking system. That’s why Russia is balls deep in crypto. China is backing El Salvador green energy for crypto mining.

It’s Partly why Biden is writing the executive order on crypto.

Oz is in bed with China but we don’t want to admit it. China made us very, very rich. We have US bases being built here. I can’t really see outright physical war. They’ve taken down a major bank here and our entire mobile internet network before. They run most cloud services so simply turn that off and we aren’t able to do jack. Cripple us completely without a bullet fired.

What is "Oz"?

Where are U.S. bases being built?

[bhank]

US. needs to implement economic sanctions on Russia, this ends .

Risssia and China are talking about dropping the dollar as a reserve currency if we hit them with more sanctions. That would be bad for the US

[IroNat]

Risssia and China are talking about dropping the dollar as a reserve currency if we hit them with more sanctions. That would be bad for the US

China holds a ton of our debt.  They are on the hook.

In case of a war we stop paying interest.  They are f*cked.

Owe someone $500,000 they own you.  Owe someone $billions you own them.

Russia is practically broke.  Cut off their oil and gas revenue and they are f*cked.

Anyway, none of the nuclear big boy club wants a real war with each other.  It's suicide.

[Griffith]

Risssia and China are talking about dropping the dollar as a reserve currency if we hit them with more sanctions. That would be bad for the US

They've been talking about that for a long time, even considered a currency for their regional members states backed by gold a few years back.

[Thin Lizzy]

Risssia and China are talking about dropping the dollar as a reserve currency if we hit them with more sanctions. That would be bad for the US

Russia’s economy is a fail, and the rest of the world trusts the Yuan less than the dollar. It’s not gonna happen.

[Gym-Rat]

the new-age dem-woke military has go us covered
dont you worry

[TheGrinch]

whatever soros wants soros gets

[Irongrip400]

What is "Oz"?

Where are U.S. bases being built?

Oz is Australia, we (US) have bases there.

[Getbiger of the past Bast]

Putin is probably a lot more noble, honest, and reasonable than the the dickheads leading the US government and military. 

It's embarrassing to have obese military "leaders" who screw up everything they do and probably can't run a mile under 10 minutes.

[Kwon]

[Mayday]

China holds a ton of our debt.  They are on the hook.

In case of a war we stop paying interest.  They are f*cked.

Owe someone $500,000 they own you.  Owe someone $billions you own them.

Russia is practically broke.  Cut off their oil and gas revenue and they are f*cked.

Anyway, none of the nuclear big boy club wants a real war with each other.  It's suicide.

We shutdown the globe and debt has skyrocketed to the point we are now in the currency debasement phase. Debt becomes zero as each country debases so it’s bad for the holder but also good that it’s less of a noose around their neck.

In saying that, Russia dumped US treasuries the other week and The US responded and dumped Rubles to teach them a lesson. So I’m guessing the US are forcing Russia to hold their worthless toilet paper until it’s useless. Brutal lol.

I’m not sure we could shut off energy to Russia. Both Russia and China have footprints in the Middle East now. The US tried to hate on Syria for the gassing incident and Russia stepped in and resolved it without bloodshed. The US left Afghanistan and China stepped in without bloodshed. Shrinking US footprint is not good for a superpower.

Besides if they shut off Russia energy we’d find our cloud services shut off and we’d be completely screwed.

[Thin Lizzy]

So, is this gonna go down? The media is reporting it’s gonna happen this coming week 2/14-2/21.

Wars can often be good for stock markets as governments use the war as a pretext to inflate but we’re already in a period where inflation is starting to get out of control. Lot of moving parts.

As an aside, Erin Burnette used to be cute. I’m watching her on CNN. Boy, did she go downhill👎

[Moontrane]

China holds a ton of our debt.  They are on the hook.

In case of a war we stop paying interest.  They are f*cked.

Owe someone $500,000 they own you.  Owe someone $billions you own them.

Russia is practically broke.  Cut off their oil and gas revenue and they are f*cked.

Anyway, none of the nuclear big boy club wants a real war with each other.  It's suicide.

A trillion $ is a lot, but it's a drop in the bucket compared to all U.S. debt.

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/markets-economy/090616/5-countries-own-most-us-debt.asp