Author Topic: RIP - Tom Prince - 02-05-22  (Read 21580 times)

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Re: RIP Tom Prince
« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2022, 05:38:04 PM »
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Re: RIP Tom Prince
« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2022, 06:06:26 PM »
Tom died a changed man. Financially him and his wife Becca ran a successful property management company and were doing very well financially. Competitive bodybuilding destroyed him internally. Once the gorilla suit was gone he really seemed at peace. RIP Tom, one of the strongest bodybuilders of all time.

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Re: RIP Tom Prince
« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2022, 06:27:25 PM »
I saw Tom at one of the Southern tates contest in Lauderdale just walking around...he had on a hoodie and black spandex tights....looked like a fucking monster....like Rob said his hamtrings through the spandex hung  down to his upper calves.

A true freak.

RIP

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Re: RIP Tom Prince
« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2022, 06:29:30 PM »
What is your problem? Tom was on the straight and arrow with diet and keeping healthy. I met Tom on two different occasions and I will tell you this, he had turned a new leaf in his present life. I'm not going to speak ill of Tom but he was much different when he competed. Maybe because he was younger, maybe the contest prep, maybe???? But what counts is that Tom turned a negative into a positive. He was much happier and healthier...mind and body when I met him three years ago.
For his diet, this was what I was told. The diet of bodybuilders interests me. Now I understand that he would change things up...but he would always eat a salad everyday. And he loved raisins...that was his dessert.
Stop trying to be a Karen and create drama where there is none.

GOOD DAY SIR!!!
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Re: RIP Tom Prince
« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2022, 06:33:16 PM »
That's why I prefer to stay natty.

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Re: RIP Tom Prince
« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2022, 06:37:53 PM »
ASSHOLE

Asshole?

Ok.

I'm an Asshole for saying nice things about Tom Prince.

And...

YOU'RE NEXT YOU OLD PATHECTIC DRIED UP BENZO ADDICTED PRUNE.


GODSPEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: RIP Tom Prince
« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2022, 06:40:09 PM »
Asshole?

Ok.

I'm an Asshole for saying nice things about Tom Prince.

And...

YOU'RE NEXT YOU OLD PATHECTIC DRIED UP BENZO ADDICTED PRUNE.


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I call `em as I ee `em CHIEF ......get it Alex....CHIEF?

You said nothing nice,you said something stupid per usual fuckface.

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Re: RIP Tom Prince
« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2022, 07:03:13 PM »
Tom helped me get my business going back in the Muscle Mayhem days...RIP brother
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Re: RIP Tom Prince
« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2022, 07:19:07 PM »
should have got his pro card a year earlier at long beach over titus who received a gift. Venice farked him up more than anything, a lot of people have picked up bad habits for life living the dream there. RIP

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Re: RIP Tom Prince
« Reply #34 on: February 05, 2022, 07:30:14 PM »
RIP :'(

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Re: RIP Tom Prince
« Reply #35 on: February 05, 2022, 07:41:44 PM »
RIP.

Great build.

It was awesome when he posted here. I remember someone pretending to be Titus sent Tom into a tirade.


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Re: RIP Tom Prince
« Reply #36 on: February 05, 2022, 07:58:42 PM »
RIP.

Great build.

It was awesome when he posted here. I remember someone pretending to be Titus sent Tom into a tirade.

Laughing so hard right now. Wish I had been a regular back then.

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Re: RIP Tom Prince
« Reply #37 on: February 05, 2022, 08:08:30 PM »
when was he diagnosed with cancer?  his kidney problem didn't kill him?

the mayhem/getbig feud was awesome back in the early 2000's especially tom and mcfarland

tom could dish it out and take it, i hope he is at peace

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Re: RIP Tom Prince
« Reply #38 on: February 05, 2022, 08:56:31 PM »
Tom helped me get my business going back in the Muscle Mayhem days...RIP brother

Oh yeah, of course.

LOL

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Re: RIP Tom Prince
« Reply #39 on: February 05, 2022, 09:05:30 PM »
Laughing so hard right now. Wish I had been a regular back then.

It was GREAT.

Tom went full scorched earth on “Titus”, referencing a bunch of insider dirt (none of which I can remember). He wrote essays…. And the best part was someone told Tom it wasn’t Titus the board started in on Prince for being suckered he started deleting the posts but of course people had saved them….

Another great Prince moment was him calling out Shawn Ray and he demanded a response from Shawn and said something along the lines of it’s arguable if Ray was a better bodybuilder but there was zero chance he was a better writer than Tom and he reminded everyone he had his Masters in English lit from Miami.  For whatever reason I found that so funny

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Re: RIP Tom Prince
« Reply #40 on: February 05, 2022, 09:13:18 PM »
PIP

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Re: RIP Tom Prince
« Reply #41 on: February 05, 2022, 09:47:12 PM »
Tom helped me get my business going back in the Muscle Mayhem days...RIP brother

LOL, of course he did. So did John meadows.

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Re: RIP Tom Prince
« Reply #42 on: February 05, 2022, 10:21:15 PM »
I did meet him once...

RIP.

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Re: RIP Tom Prince
« Reply #43 on: February 05, 2022, 10:35:59 PM »
Yeah, I know.  There are very few things that I dislike about Getbig, but hijacking a death thread is one of those things.


You must have forgotten how you acted when the news of the death of Pellius was breaking.

Matt Cawk = Hypocrite

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Re: RIP - Tom Prince - 02-05-22
« Reply #44 on: February 05, 2022, 11:49:05 PM »
Well, hope it was all worth it for him. Many years of substance abuse. According to wikipedia he was 5 ft 8 and 312 lbs off season. (= 141 kilos). He looked near death in that interview years ago.

Safe bet that many others from the nineties and on will follow. "Whatever it takes"....


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Re: RIP - Tom Prince - 02-05-22
« Reply #45 on: February 06, 2022, 12:09:29 AM »
Tom Prince definitely made an impact in 1997 thru 2002. RIP,  Here are some past notes from Tom and others, from the archives

Tom Prince from 2002 - some notes from that year

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From Tom Prince regarding Chad and Kurt:

I'd rather not compare Chad and Kurt. I can tell you exactly what I do like about Chad, however. Chad is one of my very best friends, and I could not possibly speak highly ENOUGH of him. He doesn't try to out smart or out think basic nutrition. Everything he does, diet-wise, is done in the most simple way possible. Chad's brilliance is in that simplicity. In other words, he's not trying to dazzle you with all this fancy stuff. He's just trying to get you from point A, to point B. He got me to stop eating so ridiculously clean in the off-season because I was stuck at 278 pounds, and by eating more restaurant food and junk food, my weight shot up to 305 in 8 months. My percentage of bodyfat went from 8.5 to 9.0. with that extra 28 pounds.

Chad's helped with everything, not just my diet. Dealing with Weider and getting my contract, it helped tremendously to have him to talk to about he and Kim got her contract. When I wanted to write for "Flex" and "Muscle and Fitness", Chad let me interview HIM, for my first attempt at an article (Flex magazine bought the article, and printed it in Sept or Oct of 1998.. was titled "Chad and his Lads"). I used to be a wicked partier, and it was Chad that got me to stop.  I could go on and on.. but I'll spare you with the dull details. Suffice it to say, that I would recommend him to ANYONE. Peace-tp

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Regarding Insulin

I have to tell you, in all honesty, that I've never played around with the Insulin. The only time I use it is on the Wednesday before a show, with my first meal of my carb up. 15 units of Insulin-R, and 200 grams of carbs. Simple carbs seem to work better when carbing up AND using Insulin. For all the other meals of my 3 day carb up, I eat complex carbs (rice-potatoes-oatmeal), and do NOT use the Insulin again. I never use it in the off-season.

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Re: Do you need insulin to make GH work

Well that's refreshing to hear. So what's all this noise about "needing" it in order to make the GH work, or to prevent you from becoming hypoglycemic? Your thoughts please. I really don't think you do need it to make the GH work. I've had the GH work very well for me. In fact, I can't imagine using the Insulin with the GH. I already stay so ridiculously full, there's no where for more carbs to go!!!

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Question: What is it like being 300lbs, does it restrict you in everyday life (ie: walking up stairs etc)? Ive heard some people (Dorian Yates, Flex Wheeler) say that they didnt feel too good at that weight! Thanks TP (now does that stand for Tom Prince or Total Package?!?!?!?!?!)

Answer: Yeah.. TP stands for Tom Prince. What's it like being 300 pounds? I'm actually very comfortable at that weight. I'm normally somewhere between 305-308 in the off-season, and I'm told that I carry it very well (meaning: No arms way out to the sides doing a perpetual lat spread, I can walk like a normal human being, etc.).  Only down side is clothes shopping and sleeping. Whichever side I fall asleep on goes numb in about an hour, so I toss and turn all night. Clothes are almost never off the rack.. not that I buy or wear a ton of really nice clothes. Most of my stuff, obviously, is gym wear.

There's something about being strong at 300 pounds that makes you feel great, too. Not sure if that's just my own ego or what.. but I like it. After all, I am doing this sport for only ONE real reason.. because I LIKE IT.  Your right, that was a weird question, and I hope I answered what you were looking for. LOLOL.-tp

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Question: Concerning the NOC 2001. If it's not too much trouble, could you go into this in more detail. Specifically, what your cutting diet looks like now and what you were doing wrong before. i.e. where you eating too many cals, carbs, not enough cardio, were you overdoing the protein etc... Also, maybe if possible mention some OTC supplements you like when cutting.

Answer:  "The best thing, however, was FINALLY nailing my diet right. It's taken a long-a$$ time to get it right"  What worked right at the 2001 NOC for me may not help you at all. I've always been an extreme perfectionist and very meticulous when it comes to my dieting, training, and supplementation. While this has helped me assist other athletes as they prepare for shows, it has actually, more often than not, HURT me.

I have a bad tendency to want to overdue EVERYTHING, training-wise. I like using analogies from other sports, and I'll give you the one I use MOST OFTEN in describing my own personal battles with dieting: If you take 100 baseball players, and give them all an extra half an hour of batting practice every day, 99 of them will be better hitters. But, for a dieting bodybuilder, an extra 30 minutes of cardio, or an extra 30 minutes of training can be DETRIMENTAL. Now, add to that my constant drive to get leaner and leaner, and what you have (in me, that is), is a guy who's actually determined as hell to run himself into the ground with overtraining and eating too little.

It's an over-achiever's mentality to constantly try an improve. Most professional athlete's are extremely driven and motivated people. Because of the very nature of a bodybuilding diet, it's actually EASY to over-train, and over-diet. I would offer to you that a triathlete trains harder, year-round, than a professional bodybuilder does. However, even in extreme activity like that of a competing triathlete, they get to EAT as much as they want. Thus, always fueling every athlete's strongest muscle.. HIS MIND. I realize most athlete's aren't geniuses, but the motivation, drive, and determination all comes from your brain. Take away the brain's fuel (carbs), and you get an athlete that may make mistakes because he's not thinking to clearly.

ALL OF THIS WAS MY PROBLEM.

Chris Cormier likes to give me a hard time and say "TP, don't hit the panic button!" Meaning, just relax, and go about your business. So, for the NOC last year, I kept my cardio at a somewhat normal level: I started at 20 minutes a day at 16 weeks out, and worked my way up to 40 minutes, TWICE a day. This is WAY less than the 2 hours a day I used to do. I also never let my carb intake go below 250 grams a day. I had been going down to 125-150 grams in the past, which at an in shape 250+, is ridiculously too low.
Finally, I leaned on Chad Nicholls, my nutritionist and one of my best friends, ALOT. I had always listened, but last year, I let him dictate everything I did with regards to my diet. Chad let me just be an athlete who had to listen, and I let him be the coach. It was that simple. Basically, to let Chad be great FOR ME, I had to get out of the way, and let him do his job.

As far as cutting supplements: I used mostly Clenbuterol (2 days on-1 day off), and used Ephedrine on the one day off between Clen days. I added in my Cytomel (thyroid drug) at 10 weeks out, and kept the dose really low, never going above 50 mcg.'s/day.
I would NOT recommend using Cytomel or any thyroid drug if you are NOT going to compete. Anyone who reads this, please be careful. Peace-tom prince


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Re: RIP - Tom Prince - 02-05-22
« Reply #46 on: February 06, 2022, 12:14:26 AM »
Question: I can definitely understand the Clen and Cytomel, as both of those are almost essentials pre-contest nowadays, but what about caffeine? Don't most Ephedrine supps come with caffeine added to it?  Also, what always boggles me is what a pro bodybuilder eats post-workout while dieting. I always read in FLEX (Chris Aceto's articles) that you should consume large amounts of simple carbs post-workout. To spike insulin, etc. Well, what do you do when you're dieting and yu can't have simple sugars, like bagels, honey, or any other refined sugars or simple carbs. Do you eat whole food? What exactly do you eat post-workout while dieting?

Answer: While dieting, I eat complex carbs only. Potatoes, oatmeal, and rice. There are other complex carbs, obviously, but those are what I like, and what I stick with.  I try my best to stay away from simple carbs (fruit, etc.) while dieting. My own personal belief (again, I'm not putting down or arguing with anyone else's views on dieting) is that you want to AVOID spiking your insulin levels while dieting. A more consistent blood sugar level will make you feel better. Simple carbs get in you fast, and out of you fast, and your moods are more likely to swing all over the place as the simple carbs are burned up. Dieting is hard enough without having your energy levels and moods go way up and down because you blood sugar gets too low and too high 6 times during the day.

Yes, many ephedrine products have caffeine in them. But Clenbuterol doesn't. So I take 400 mg's of caffeine with my Clenbuterol. When you used to be able to buy ephedrine easily, I'd take my caffeine with the ephedrine, rather than buying a product that had both already mixed in it. Why? No reason, just the old school way of doing it

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Question: Why did you take nude pics?

Answer: OK, the nude pics first: I took those pics after the 1997 Nationals (when I won). I had taken off 3 months from managing the gym I worked at, and by the time the show came and went, my wife and I had $300 in the bank.. TOTAL. The owner of the magazine called me, and made a decent offer for the pics.. around $1,500, if I remember right. I said "No.. but I will do for $3000. And I have some stipulations. One, NO ONE else will be in the photos with me. Second, the pictures MUST be tasteful. Third, and this one's major.. I will in no way be touching myself or doing anything other than tastefully posing for the camera. In other words (and I told him this), if my mom and grandma would be embarrassed to see it, it's OUT. Period." Obviously, the guy agreed to take them. Now, if it weren't for me NEEDING the money so bad, would I have done the pics? NO. But, I did.. so I did. I wish they weren't out there, but I'm not embarrassed about them either. Just so you know, I did sign with Weider soon after, but I didn't get my first check from them for a few months. It's not like you turn pro and a bag of money drops in your lap.

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Question: How did you feel you looked at the 2001 NOC?

Thanks for saying I looked good at the NOC last year. I was thrilled with how I looked. The Olympia, ended up being a nightmare, but not for any reason other than me throwing up for a week (which stopped on the Wednesday night before the show), which left me drained and feeling like utter dogsh*t. I started carbing up way late, and never got rid of the water. I had another 5 pounds of water to lose. I went to England a week later for the first grand prix show, lost that 5 pounds, plus an extra 2 that flattened me out some, and beat 2 guys that beat me at the Olympia (Titus and Gunther). The whole point of me going to England was ONLY to see if I repeated the exact same plan as I used at the 2001 NOC, would it work again. It did (though like I said, I pushed it a little too far).

Just so we are clear, I in no way blame ANYONE for me being off at the Olympia. That's 100% all on me. Chad did his best to fix the problem, but he isn't God who can fix me having a bad stomach flu. The thing about excuses is, that the judges don't care. If you're off, you're off. One or two of my fellow pro's must keep a book of 1001 excuses next to the phone, so they immediately have someone or something to blame. That just isn't me. So, I'm doing the new Texas Pro show on May 4th, and the NOC again, on May 18th.

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Re: RIP - Tom Prince - 02-05-22
« Reply #47 on: February 06, 2022, 02:44:24 AM »
"Where are the bodies?"


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Re: RIP - Tom Prince - 02-05-22
« Reply #48 on: February 06, 2022, 03:52:56 AM »
Eating meat even with cancer bad idea

Rest in peace , back in mid 90s he was on top with dorian and craig
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Re: RIP - Tom Prince - 02-05-22
« Reply #49 on: February 06, 2022, 04:00:57 AM »


Rest in peace , back in mid 90s he was on top with dorian and craig

not quite

he sacrificed a lot just to be 3rd at the 2001 night of champions and i think 16th at the olympia

that's one reason i always felt bad for him, at least guys that died premature like nasser got to the elite level

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