Would you vote for Trump a 3rd time?

[Kwon]

[Thin Lizzy]

Yeah, the first $2 trillion they printed under trump,you know the checks he was so proud to put his name on, have NOTHInG to do with the current inflation. Neither did the 2nd "stimulus" he also supported pushing out.

You trumptards are just as bad as the libtards,getting fucked both ways and defending the dick going down your throat to spite the dick going into your ass.

Healthcare is another example. The real elephant is the room is the employer based model which came about as a result of a WW2 price control intervention. That’s why it’s so expensive. To really fix healthcare and make it free market this needs to be phased out but no Republican even talks about it.

[Never1AShow]

Here are those “leftist hellholes” you refer to: Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and possibly even Georgia. Trump cannot win those states post Jan 6. DeSantis possibly could win a couple of those if Biden remains weak. DeSantis can definitely take Georgia, and possibly one of the Midwestern threesome.

Outed=any reference to Jan 6th

[Thin Lizzy]

Outed=any reference to Jan 6th

Lol as if anybody gives a shit except MSNBC watchers.

[mphgrove]

January 6 was a big nothing burger. Only hardcore libs care anything about it.

Yes, it all boils down to Independents as you say and I agree with you (and Never1) that they are swinging conservative right now. I just don’t think it would be enough for Trump in particular, but I admit I could be wrong. But there can be no denying there is HUGE baggage with Trump. Republicans would be way better off with a fresh face and DeSantis is the best of those faces, not Pence or Rubio or Cruz.

[Humble Narcissist]

Yes, it all boils down to Independents as you say and I agree with you that they are swinging conservative right now. I just don’t think it would be enough for Trump in particular, but I admit I could be wrong. But there can be no denying there is HUGE baggage with Trump. Republicans would be way better off with a fresh face and DeSantis is the best of those faces, not Pence or Rubio or Cruz.

Another negative for Trump is he would be a lame duck president if he won as it would be his 2nd term.

[Soul Crusher]

I'm all for DeSantis at this point. 

[Gym-Rat]

one guy:

greatest economy in history arguably - check
into border security and keeping the country safe - check

other tard:

worst economy in history [period!] - check
open borders, 6 million illegals, criminals, cartels, kid-trafficking, major crime uptick - check

these 2 matters alone tell the story.
could go on with a sheet as long as infinity with the horrible shit going on today, but we know all that

[Thin Lizzy]

January 6 was a big nothing burger. Only hardcore libs care anything about it.

You just had a 20 war exposed as a complete fraud and no one in DC gives a fuck but some unarmed dudes climbing a fence during a protest is the end of the world.

[Soul Crusher]

You just had a 20 war exposed as a complete fraud and no one in DC gives a fuck but some unarmed dudes climbing a fence during a protest is the end of the world.

FACTS

[mphgrove]

You just had a 20 war exposed as a complete fraud and no one in DC gives a fuck but some unarmed dudes climbing a fence during a protest is the end of the world.

Swing voters care about violence in general: BLM looting, psychopathic school shootings, urban violence in general. Jan 6 makes it very hard for Trump on this front and DOES IMPACT broader views of him, so it does matter in terms of how these voters will go (other than the 24% hard core Republicans). We can envision the TV ads already. Females in Midwestern suburbs (for example) definitely would be influenced by that. Other Republican contenders would not stained by this in the same way.

[jude2]

Another negative for Trump is he would be a lame duck president if he won as it would be his 2nd term.

Why do you say that? If he can take the house and senate back, he could get a lot done.

[deadz]

You just had a 20 war exposed as a complete fraud and no one in DC gives a fuck but some unarmed dudes climbing a fence during a protest is the end of the world.

Imagine what those left behind experienced.

[Never1AShow]

Yes, it all boils down to Independents as you say and I agree with you (and Never1) that they are swinging conservative right now. I just don’t think it would be enough for Trump in particular, but I admit I could be wrong. But there can be no denying there is HUGE baggage with Trump. Republicans would be way better off with a fresh face and DeSantis is the best of those faces, not Pence or Rubio or Cruz.

Definitely agree to Desantis over those other 3 has-been clowns.

[Never1AShow]

Swing voters care about violence in general: BLM looting, psychopathic school shootings, urban violence in general. Jan 6 makes it very hard for Trump on this front and DOES IMPACT broader views of him, so it does matter in terms of how these voters will go (other than the 24% hard core Republicans). We can envision the TV ads already. Females in Midwestern suburbs (for example) definitely would be influenced by that. Other Republican contenders would not stained by this in the same way.

The cities were in flames but swing voters cared enough to vote for Biden?  Makes no sense.  No one cares about Jan 6th except Libs and Nevertrumper RINOs scared he will run again because they know he'll win.

[Dave D]

The cities were in flames but swing voters cared enough to vote for Biden?  Makes no sense.  No one cares about Jan 6th except Libs and Nevertrumper RINOs scared he will run again because they know he'll win.

I have to think by election time the events of Jan. 6th will pale compared to all the nonsense that will have gone on.

Biden was going to unite us and solve the covid issue. Is he really on pace to do either of these?

[Humble Narcissist]

Why do you say that? If he can take the house and senate back, he could get a lot done.

He didn't the 1st time. Republicans talk about stopping illegal immigration but really do nothing to stop it. When Trump wanted immigration reform and his wall the republicans dragged their feet for 2 years when they had the House and Senate. After 2 years of doing nothing 25 House members including Ryan retired and didn't run for reelection giving the democrats the House. They didn't retire because they thought they would lose their reelection bid but retired because they were afraid they would win! Then there would be no excuses for not doing what Trump and his base wanted. I do not see any of this changing if Trump gets reelected.

[Gym-Rat]

What began as a simple computer repair soon turned into a troubling revelation, an "astounding" and "disgusting" volume of homemade pornography. In addition, Mac Isaac also uncovered a PDF indicating that Hunter had made $1.2 million for Burisma, a private energy company in Ukraine.

[bhank]

Yeah, the first $2 trillion they printed under trump,you know the checks he was so proud to put his name on, have NOTHInG to do with the current inflation. Neither did the 2nd "stimulus" he also supported pushing out.

You trumptards are just as bad as the libtards,getting fucked both ways and defending the dick going down your throat to spite the dick going into your ass.

Trump doesn't control the Fed. Inflation is not a bad thing if it coincides with economic growth. Deflation would be really bad. Your wages go up with inflation your mortgage does not. Also during inflationary times people spend money now as they expect things to get more expensive thus increasing demand and production and wages and economic growth.

[bhank]

Healthcare is another example. The real elephant is the room is the employer based model which came about as a result of a WW2 price control intervention. That’s why it’s so expensive. To really fix healthcare and make it free market this needs to be phased out but no Republican even talks about it.

We need Universal healthcare for all citizens preventative health care is cheaper than having people with no insurance waiting until they need expensive life saving care which hospitals are legally obligated to provide then pass on to insured patient cost. We also don't need an insurance middle mad pulling a profit out. Let the government do something. It's not free healthcare when they take it out of our tax dollars. You are paying half your income in taxes for services demand some fucking services already.

[bhank]

I like Trump but let's be real he is 80 years old. Does anyone believe an 80-year-old is on top of their game? Biden needs to go and Trump is better than most of them but he is not our best and brightest either.

[GymnJuice]

Trump doesn't control the Fed. Inflation is not a bad thing if it coincides with economic growth. Deflation would be really bad. Your wages go up with inflation your mortgage does not. Also during inflationary times people spend money now as they expect things to get more expensive thus increasing demand and production and wages and economic growth.

I'm no economic expert but 7.5% inflation has to be very bad. And I don't see much real economic growth going on.

[Explorerspl]

Trump doesn't control the Fed. Inflation is not a bad thing if it coincides with economic growth. Deflation would be really bad. Your wages go up with inflation your mortgage does not. Also during inflationary times people spend money now as they expect things to get more expensive thus increasing demand and production and wages and economic growth.

I didn't realize the fed was responsible for voting on "stimulus packages",Trump bragged about voting to print out trillions to bail out air lines and give people a worthless ass check with his name on it,then later that year popped another trillion out.

"With inflation your wages go up and your mortgage does not"

Does property value not go up with inflation? Pretty sure that will raise your mortgage.

Stick to your troll threads you dense twat

[bhank]

I didn't realize the fed was responsible for voting on "stimulus packages",Trump bragged about voting to print out trillions to bail out air lines and give people a worthless ass check with his name on it,then later that year popped another trillion out.

"With inflation your wages go up and your mortgage does not"

Does property value not go up with inflation? Pretty sure that will raise your mortgage.

Stick to your troll threads you dense twat

NO ABSOLUTELY NOT YOU fucking moron clearly you do not have a mortgage or understand borrowing and interest rates works. Your property value can quadruple it has no effect on your mortgage payment. Your mortgage is based on the size of the loan when you purchased the property. If your property goes up in value your equity goes up not your mortgage payment. You benefit from the leverage. You are also borrowing at a fixed rate and now interest rates have gone up so there are multiple benefits to borrowers from inflation. The fed open market operations and setting of interest rates and required deposits and reserves is what controls the money supply it is literally their job to monitor and control inflation. Trump has no ability to print a single dollar.

One of us has a BS in Finance and is a Chartered Financial Analyst with a decade plus in corporate banking the other doesn't understand the basic concept of a mortgage. Sucks you do not own a home

[mphgrove]

The cities were in flames but swing voters cared enough to vote for Biden?  Makes no sense.  No one cares about Jan 6th except Libs and Nevertrumper RINOs scared he will run again because they know he'll win.

You are not a swing voter you don’t understand this. Their sensivities move in both directions. Remember that, within a fairly similar time frame as “the cities being up in flames” from looters were the videos of young black men being subject to violence from police officers. This type of voter that goes back and forth in elections and makes the difference between a Biden and a Trump (for example) may be repelled by both types of violence, AND Jan 6. My only point is that Trump, now associated with violence himself, is generally gone to these voters, but a DeSantis maybe not (for example).