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Re: vaccines are killing massive numbers
« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2022, 09:53:41 PM »
Look at the deaths of players in 2021 compared to other years after the vax
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_association_footballers_who_died_while_playing

I’m pro vax and believe it helps more people than it hurts but to pretend myocarditis in athletes especially young men isn’t a thing is criminal

Basically, you don't want to be in a half marathon (about the distance a professional soccer player covers during a game) after taking a shot of that arrhythmia-causing bullshit in a syringe if you are healthy.

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Re: vaccines are killing massive numbers
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2022, 12:12:45 AM »
covid vaccines both deadly and corrupt


Merk killed over 60,000 people with Viox. Pfizer paid a $1.3 billion fine for Bextra. Pfizer has been repeatedly fined for bribery. These are not pharmaceutical companies, they are criminal drug cartels. There is no line between the boards of these cartels and our regulatory agencies. There are about a half dozen people at NIAID who are getting $150K/year royalties from Moderna, there may be ACIP members as well...I don't recall. NIAID owns 50% of the royalties for the Moderna mRNA shot. I could do this all day and still not scratch the surface. And people actually trust the racket to do what is in their best interest, fucking insane to the maximum. The virus was obviously made for the "cure". The treatment is part of the final solution. Look at what is happening in Israel, case counts at all time highs. There was a day a few weeks ago that Israel had more cases in one day then they had in the sum of 2021. Daily COVID deaths in Israel - all time highs. Israel is maybe the most vaxxed and boosted country on Earth.

Here is a quick summary of some pharma cartel fines. I wonder if the true believers understand who they are trusting their health to. You'd be just as well off letting a child molester babysit your little kids.

https://projects.propublica.org/graphics/bigpharma

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Re: vaccines are killing massive numbers
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2022, 12:28:48 AM »
actually yes he is. very wrong in fact:

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-us-supreme-court-entertainment-business-health-fad50abe43bfbb0fe0f4c9c052397601

keep spouting the lies and misinformation.

I will show you how all of it is wrong.

From your quoted blurb:

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But 65% of the excess deaths in the U.S. in the third quarter of 2021 were caused by COVID-19, Davison said in a statement to the AP, citing CDC data. “Based on the data and our analysis, we believe that a significant portion of the remaining excess deaths are driven by deferred medical care and individuals who recover from COVID but later die from the toll COVID has taken on their bodies,” Davison said. Catherine Theroux, a spokesperson for the insurance industry-funded research group LIMRA, said the firm doesn’t have concrete data through the end of 2021, but CDC data indicates the highly contagious delta variant of the coronavirus likely contributed to the increase in deaths.

As you can see from the third image attached below, there are 42,550,000 Americans aged 15-24.

IN TOTAL, there have been 3,500 Covid deaths between Americans aged 15-29, *since the pandemic started*.  If other sources say 3,700 or 4,000 - post them, and I'll recalculate these figures, based on the data that goes most AGAINST my view of this pandemic [just to show you that Covid alone is not enough to account for 100% of the increase in all-cause mortality that we are currently seeing].

See the first image attached below, from the CDC [link below]: it states that in the 15-24 age group, the death rate in 2020 went up to 84.2 per 100,000 population, from 69.7 deaths per 100,000 in 2019.

That's 14.5 additional deaths per 100,000 people in the 15-24 category.  That means that out of 42,550,000 Americans aged 14-25, with 14.5 additional deaths per 100K of that 42.55M population, that means the USA had 6,169.75 additional/excess deaths in 2020 compared to 2019.

Now Hulkster - since there have only been 3,500 Covid deaths among Americans aged 15-24 IN TOTAL, we can assume 1,750 happened in 2020 [but if you have the 2020 age mortality data for C-19, please share it].  Heck, even IF all 3,500 deaths happened in 2020, how does that explain the additional 2,669.75 deaths??

And the reason why I used the 15-24 age demographic is because I don't see any evidence of "Long Covid", and children barely die of Covid anyway...so it seems really strange to me that they would be dying of "Long Covid" when the actual virus rarely kills them.

One last point, Hulkster - how do you know those deaths are "Long Covid"??

The reason why I rule Long Covid out is because I have yet to see ANY evidence about it, confirmed in the literature.

Your point about deaths caused by people avoiding other treatments makes sense though.  But that's my point - look at all the problems are being caused by everyone living in fear over Covid?!

REFS:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db427.htm#section_3
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-from-covid-by-age-us/
https://www.statista.com/statistics/241488/population-of-the-us-by-sex-and-age/
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db355.htm#section_3
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Re: vaccines are killing massive numbers
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2022, 12:50:50 AM »
Quote from: [b
hulkster [/b]link=topic=677187.msg9729193#msg9729193 date=1644481728]

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-us-supreme-court-entertainment-business-health-fad50abe43bfbb0fe0f4c9c052397601

keep spouting the lies and misinformation.

I will show you how all of it is wrong.


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« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2022, 12:59:01 AM »
From Hulkster's quoted blurb:

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But 65% of the excess deaths in the U.S. in the third quarter of 2021 were caused by COVID-19, Davison said in a statement to the AP, citing CDC data. “Based on the data and our analysis, we believe that a significant portion of the remaining excess deaths are driven by deferred medical care and individuals who recover from COVID but later die from the toll COVID has taken on their bodies,” Davison said. Catherine Theroux, a spokesperson for the insurance industry-funded research group LIMRA, said the firm doesn’t have concrete data through the end of 2021, but CDC data indicates the highly contagious delta variant of the coronavirus likely contributed to the increase in deaths.

There have been 203,870 Covid deaths in total, among Americans aged 40-64 [see previous attachment].
There were 577,270 deaths of Americans aged 40-64 in 2017.

In Canada, Covid deaths were almost exactly the same in both 2020 and 2021.  Just slightly higher in 2020.  So let's just say the same is true for the USA - and let's just say that 103,870 of those 203,870 Covid deaths happened in 2020.

Ok, so 577,270 deaths in the 40-64 age group would be normal - but now with Covid, we have to add 103,870.

So the new total is 681,140 deaths, which should have been closer to 577,270 [which is what the 40-64 total American deaths were in 2017, a pretty average year, amongst recent years].

Well, Hulkster - here's the thing:

That's only an increase of 17.99%, that we can attribute directly to Covid [call it 18%].

So what about the other 22%, Hulkster?

Are you saying all of those deaths were from postponing getting medical treatment due to Covid [which I could believe], or due to "Long Covid"?  Based on what evidence?

Other than speculation, what are you claiming as actual empirical evidence for "Long Covid"?

Lastly, the increased deaths among younger people is really the most telling to me, that something else is going on here...

Children are NOT dying at Covid at high rates AT ALL.  Among children who die, 61% are SEVERELY obese!  So...seeing the death rate go up in younger groups...I have NO reason to believe that's from Covid.

It could be the vaccine.

But it also could be not getting healthcare due to the current situation - as your quoted blurb stated.

It could also be drug overdose deaths...suicides...many different things.

Once that data comes in, I will do a more extensive mathematical analysis on these excess deaths.  "Long Covid" is just a copout, IMO.

I heard that the UN did not release the overall excess mortality data for 2021 yet, for some reason...I wonder why?
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Re: vaccines are killing massive numbers
« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2022, 01:00:26 AM »
vax is greatly outperforming any in  history when it comes to killing

https://vaersanalysis.info/2022/02/04/vaers-summary-for-covid-19-vaccines-through-01-28-2022/






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Re: vaccines are killing massive numbers
« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2022, 01:01:38 AM »
i would guess the real number to much greater
this is only the 'reported'
jab-up retards, jab-up



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Re: vaccines are killing massive numbers
« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2022, 01:02:53 AM »

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« Reply #33 on: February 10, 2022, 01:04:06 AM »

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Re: vaccines are killing massive numbers
« Reply #34 on: February 10, 2022, 01:12:00 AM »
the white-knight for big-gov and fda.
the globalist fighter/hero!!

what a moron!!!   lol
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My favourite part is when he said that the excess deaths not explained by Covid deaths could be explained by "Long Covid" deaths - hahahahahahaha!!!

Please.

EVERYTHING is classified as Covid as it is - if people "who recover from COVID but later die from the toll COVID has taken on their bodies" was the issue here - those deaths WOULD be classified as Covid deaths!

How can you die of Covid, after beating it and having antibodies from it?!  I don't even get what this person is trying to say?  If someone dies of Covid, in a slow and drawn out way, that IS classified as a Covid death.

But that's the thing - Covid deaths alone DO NOT explain the excess deaths.  I don't know exactly what IS causing these deaths - but I'd say it is a combination of additional drug overdoses caused by lockdowns, suicides [which went up by 16% in Japan in 2020], and deferred medical care [biopsies/cancer screenings, other], and people who were scared of going to the hospital during the pandemic, and stayed home while having a heart attack, and eventually died.

I don't think "Long Covid" [which, need I remind Hulkster, there is NO evidence for] is the cause of these excess deaths.

So why is mortality up 40% in the 40-64 age range?

It sure as hell isn't Covid.  So what is it?

In any case, it's just starting.  Maybe this is the "next" pandemic that Bill Gates was smirking about, in that interview where he was sitting with his manly ex-wife?  Does Bill know something we don't?  ???
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Re: vaccines are killing massive numbers
« Reply #35 on: February 10, 2022, 02:06:40 AM »
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Re: vaccines are killing massive numbers
« Reply #36 on: February 10, 2022, 09:30:39 PM »
Basically, you don't want to be in a half marathon (about the distance a professional soccer player covers during a game) after taking a shot of that arrhythmia-causing bullshit in a syringe if you are healthy.

Yup, that’s the “data/science” like it or not

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Re: vaccines are killing massive numbers
« Reply #37 on: February 11, 2022, 01:55:43 AM »
If the truth ever goes mainstream there are going to be a lot of pissed off sheeple.

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Re: vaccines are killing massive numbers
« Reply #38 on: February 11, 2022, 10:23:59 AM »
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« Reply #39 on: February 11, 2022, 10:28:44 AM »
Everyone I personally know who has gotten the Clotshot and a booster or two is now experiencing issues. They range from fainting spells, shortness of breath, chronic neck pains, rashes and even hearing loss in one ear. I've known these people for years. Never saw anything like this happen to so many simultaneously.

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« Reply #40 on: February 11, 2022, 10:35:32 AM »
Everyone I personally know who has gotten the Clotshot and a booster or two is now experiencing issues. They range from fainting spells, shortness of breath, chronic neck pains, rashes and even hearing loss in one ear. I've known these people for years. Never saw anything like this happen to so many simultaneously.

Wow! That’s interesting.


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Re: vaccines are killing massive numbers
« Reply #41 on: February 11, 2022, 10:51:48 AM »
https://greatmountainpublishing.com/2022/02/08/life-insurance-company-refuses-to-pay-out-life-insurance-policy-because-death-was-from-experimental-covid-19-vaccine/

even those that comply are getting porked in the behind

Life Insurance Company Refuses to Pay Out Life Insurance Policy Because Death Was From Experimental COVID-19 Vaccine

did someone say "porked in the behind"??



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Re: vaccines are killing massive numbers
« Reply #42 on: February 11, 2022, 11:04:45 AM »

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« Reply #43 on: February 11, 2022, 11:05:29 AM »

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« Reply #44 on: February 11, 2022, 12:00:31 PM »

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Re: vaccines are killing massive numbers
« Reply #45 on: February 11, 2022, 12:25:06 PM »
Everyone I personally know who has gotten the Clotshot and a booster or two is now experiencing issues. They range from fainting spells, shortness of breath, chronic neck pains, rashes and even hearing loss in one ear. I've known these people for years. Never saw anything like this happen to so many simultaneously.

Same here.

One had to go to the hospital (heartproblems) and another had his arm paralyzed and almost lost sight (everything was a fog) for 2 weeks after taking the vaccine (Moderna and Pfizer)
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« Reply #46 on: February 11, 2022, 12:30:29 PM »
If the truth ever goes mainstream there are going to be a lot of pissed off sheeple.

99% of all Medical Doctors were fooled but you “figured it out” by reading your Twitter Feed.

That’s interesting.

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« Reply #48 on: February 11, 2022, 12:32:34 PM »
99% of all Medical Doctors were fooled but you “figured it out” by reading your Twitter Feed.

That’s interesting.

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Anyone questioning the "science" normally gets the " so you know more than the doctors and scientists?"
Let me give you an example
in 2019 I was diagnosed with kidney stones that I was told required surgery, I had researched myself and argued that lithotripsy could get rid of the stones but was told I was wrong and had to have surgery.
I almost died.
I then saw another consultant who told me I had to have surgery, I made my argument again initially to no avail, eventually he agreed to perform the non evasive method against his professional judgement
the treatment worked after 5 treatments even though he told me it could take around 16
Moral of the story is
Either your argument is valid or it isnt
It makes no difference who the source is

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Re: vaccines are killing massive numbers
« Reply #49 on: February 11, 2022, 12:48:21 PM »
Anyone questioning the "science" normally gets the " so you know more than the doctors and scientists?"
Let me give you an example
in 2019 I was diagnosed with kidney stones that I was told required surgery, I had researched myself and argued that lithotripsy could get rid of the stones but was told I was wrong and had to have surgery.
I almost died.
I then saw another consultant who told me I had to have surgery, I made my argument again initially to no avail, eventually he agreed to perform the non evasive method against his professional judgement
the treatment worked after 5 treatments even though he told me it could take around 16
Moral of the story is
Either your argument is valid or it isnt
It makes no difference who the source is

Fair enough.

Kidney stones are challenging to treat and can be life threatening. But 99% of all Doctors in the world weren’t telling you to get surgery.

When you did research did you take the advice of non medically trained twitter posters or did you take the opinions of other Doctors?