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Re: vaccines are killing massive numbers
« Reply #75 on: February 13, 2022, 09:02:01 AM »
The matter of vaccines in general, not just the covid-19 ones, is not a scientific or medical issue. It is purely a LEGAL issue. Vaccines are the only product manufactured and sold in the United States where the manufacturers enjoy complete immunity from product liability. That means you cannot sue the manufacturer if you are injured by a vaccine. The manufacturers of no other product, including medical ones (remember Vioxx???) enjoy such indemnity from liability. This means by the standards of tort law that as been established over the past 100 years, that vaccines cannot be considered "safe" by any legal standard.

You would drive a car or fly on a plane if the manufacturer was not responsible for product liability if you were killed or injured in an accident? Same for any other medical compound such as Vioxx or high blood pressure meds. Is it not an irrational act to inject yourself with compounds of whom the manufacturers have no liability whatsoever?

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Re: vaccines are killing massive numbers
« Reply #76 on: February 13, 2022, 09:33:25 AM »
The matter of vaccines in general, not just the covid-19 ones, is not a scientific or medical issue. It is purely a LEGAL issue. Vaccines are the only product manufactured and sold in the United States where the manufacturers enjoy complete immunity from product liability. That means you cannot sue the manufacturer if you are injured by a vaccine. The manufacturers of no other product, including medical ones (remember Vioxx???) enjoy such indemnity from liability. This means by the standards of tort law that as been established over the past 100 years, that vaccines cannot be considered "safe" by any legal standard.

You would drive a car or fly on a plane if the manufacturer was not responsible for product liability if you were killed or injured in an accident? Same for any other medical compound such as Vioxx or high blood pressure meds. Is it not an irrational act to inject yourself with compounds of whom the manufacturers have no liability whatsoever?

Why do you suppose vaccines enjoy indemnity from liability? Specially when it means state governments are liable. There are potentially 51 different sets of rules regarding vaccine liability in the United States. Could it be that no company would manufacture them if there was the risk of being sued? 

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Re: vaccines are killing massive numbers
« Reply #77 on: February 14, 2022, 01:55:36 AM »
The matter of vaccines in general, not just the covid-19 ones, is not a scientific or medical issue. It is purely a LEGAL issue. Vaccines are the only product manufactured and sold in the United States where the manufacturers enjoy complete immunity from product liability. That means you cannot sue the manufacturer if you are injured by a vaccine. The manufacturers of no other product, including medical ones (remember Vioxx???) enjoy such indemnity from liability. This means by the standards of tort law that as been established over the past 100 years, that vaccines cannot be considered "safe" by any legal standard.

You would drive a car or fly on a plane if the manufacturer was not responsible for product liability if you were killed or injured in an accident? Same for any other medical compound such as Vioxx or high blood pressure meds. Is it not an irrational act to inject yourself with compounds of whom the manufacturers have no liability whatsoever?
Great point.

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Re: vaccines are killing massive numbers
« Reply #78 on: February 14, 2022, 07:16:01 PM »
Why do you suppose vaccines enjoy indemnity from liability? Specially when it means state governments are liable. There are potentially 51 different sets of rules regarding vaccine liability in the United States. Could it be that no company would manufacture them if there was the risk of being sued?

Two laws indemnify vaccine manufacturers from liability:

1) The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986
2) The PREP Act of 2005




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Re: vaccines are killing massive numbers
« Reply #79 on: February 14, 2022, 08:55:01 PM »
The matter of vaccines in general, not just the covid-19 ones, is not a scientific or medical issue. It is purely a LEGAL issue. Vaccines are the only product manufactured and sold in the United States where the manufacturers enjoy complete immunity from product liability. That means you cannot sue the manufacturer if you are injured by a vaccine. The manufacturers of no other product, including medical ones (remember Vioxx???) enjoy such indemnity from liability. This means by the standards of tort law that as been established over the past 100 years, that vaccines cannot be considered "safe" by any legal standard.

You would drive a car or fly on a plane if the manufacturer was not responsible for product liability if you were killed or injured in an accident? Same for any other medical compound such as Vioxx or high blood pressure meds. Is it not an irrational act to inject yourself with compounds of whom the manufacturers have no liability whatsoever?
Exactly.

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Re: vaccines are killing massive numbers
« Reply #80 on: February 14, 2022, 10:24:22 PM »
Two laws indemnify vaccine manufacturers from liability:

1) The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986
2) The PREP Act of 2005

You neglected to mention 42 U.S. Code § 300aa–22 which went into effect in 1988 which also protects vaccine manufacturers from lawsuits.

Then there is the VICP which also went into effect at about the same time. It has paid out approximately $4.5 billion in claims since it concept.

Unless an extension is granted the exemption that Moderna and Pfizer currently enjoy ends in 2024.

In 2005 the PREP Act created the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program (CICP) which has paid out very little in damages since it's concept.

Suing a drug manufacturer is very difficult because winning a lawsuit is often about the side that can afford the best legal team. The Stackler family sort of got off the hook. In exchange for $4.3 billion and forfeiting ownership of Purdue Pharma and its hundreds of associates, as well as their remaining empire of companies and trusts. they are released from future liability claims. The Stacklers made an estimated $10 billion off OxyContin.

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Re: vaccines are killing massive numbers
« Reply #81 on: February 15, 2022, 02:51:08 AM »
You neglected to mention 42 U.S. Code § 300aa–22 which went into effect in 1988 which also protects vaccine manufacturers from lawsuits.

Then there is the VICP which also went into effect at about the same time. It has paid out approximately $4.5 billion in claims since it concept.

Unless an extension is granted the exemption that Moderna and Pfizer currently enjoy ends in 2024.

In 2005 the PREP Act created the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program (CICP) which has paid out very little in damages since it's concept.

Suing a drug manufacturer is very difficult because winning a lawsuit is often about the side that can afford the best legal team. The Stackler family sort of got off the hook. In exchange for $4.3 billion and forfeiting ownership of Purdue Pharma and its hundreds of associates, as well as their remaining empire of companies and trusts. they are released from future liability claims. The Stacklers made an estimated $10 billion off OxyContin.

The actions against the Jewish Sackler family is the strongest example of anti-Semitism since Hitler, IMO.

One of the family members fled to Switzerland because of it.

What I mean is: this was the biggest example of a mob of frenzied people out to basically get revenge for the acts of a group of Jews [in this case, a Jewish family].

Was this revenge/pogrom justified?  Well...in 1996 when Oxycontin first came out, the company used the paper of one doctor stating that the drugs were not addictive in order to sell them.  That was BULLSHIT, and yet, decades later, here we have literally tens of thousands dead because of this HIGHLY ADDICTIVE product, and many more addicted.  I don't have ANY problem with Big Pharma SELLING drugs...what I have a problem with is when ANYONE - be it Big Pharma, or some guy on a chopper on a street corner - PUSHES drugs.  THAT is what the Sackler family did.

To that extent...I am ok with people taking revenge.

As for your point regarding the Sackler family being immune to further legal action.  Ah, Prime - they were ALREADY immune from legal action before.  How'd that work for them?

Immunity is relative.

As I said, this comes down to drug SELLING versus drug PUSHING.  The Sacklers did both - but only the latter do I find deplorable.

As for the current vaccine manufacturers having legal immunity...hahaha...wait until we get an honest count of the bodies that these vaccines have stacked up...I can ASSURE YOU, Big Pharma will NOT have immunity by then.  Sadly, the political front men will probably be the ones to go to jail, as opposed to pharmaceutical company executives.  Personally, I'd love to see Bill Gates be tried, for his role in this.

During the global financial collapse, no one went to jail - but this fraud was WAY bigger than this.  Heck - Prime: you STILL believe Covid is a serious disease!  LOL!  You are STILL playing pandemic.  Unreal!

But once again, remember: immunity is RELATIVE.
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