Kratom

[The Keto Kid]

Anyone here use Kratom? Was wondering about this stuff and if any Getbiggers have tried it and their experience with it.

[joswift]

its OK... different blends for different effects
Just got some Green Malay, not tried it yet, will let you know

last lot I had just felt warm and relaxed, not sure what that was , someone gave it me,
https://www.kraatje.eu/contents/en-us/d23_Kratom_Kopen_Kaufen.html

[Van_Bilderass]

Very mild opiate-like feel. Makes me sweat for some reason.
It's simply not that good as far as drugs go.

I didn't find it addictive but many others regret they ever tried it.

[Irongrip400]

I took some after aback injury and too Red Fibre Kratom a few times and it made my scalp tingle like a pre workout. Maybe some energy but I can’t be sure because I was fucked up from being hospitalized. Never thought about taking it again.

[ThisisOverload]

I take it sometimes to relax and get good sleep.

It's not that great.

I've heard if you take a lot of it at once it will be more intense.

Haven't tried that yet.

[The Keto Kid]

Interesting stuff guys, I didn't know there are different strains, I got to look into it more.

[ThisisOverload]

Interesting stuff guys, I didn't know there are different strains, I got to look into it more.

Yeah it's all online.

Green gives you energy.

White is better for pain relief.

Red is good for sleep.

There are like a dozen kinds.

I never noticed much of a difference between them, but the red does make me very tired.

I buy a bag of White Maeng Da every few months. Seems to help me relax and chill out. I might take it once every 1-2 weeks. When i travel for work and stay in hotels i'll take it because i have problems sleeping in new places.

Some people claim you can get withdrawals from Kratom. I can tell you if you take a lot over the period of a few days it will string you out a bit. Give you scalp and nose itches like opiates do.

[beakdoctor]

I find that Red can help with sleep and is similar to a sedative.

White and green are similar in effect but I've always found white to be more intense. In smaller doses it provides a physical pick-me-up in the way that the first coffee of the day provides a mental pick me up.

The green and white are great for eliminating small aches and pains. A little achiness in the morning, knees, lower back, when your legs feel heavy and lack energy. A small dose of white, like 1 or 2 grams, really erases alot of those body aches and the result is you feel better somewhat more energetic. 

But even the white and green will become more of a sedative if you take higher dises, like 5 to 10 grams at a time.

I quit kratom a few years ago and it was a bitch. I started again a few years later because I was having a hard time sleeping and kratom was only thing that worked.  I had to quit again- traveling outside of the country and just didn't want the hassle- and it was alot easier to quit. Ive started and stopped several other times. Each time any withdrawl-like effects are less and less.

If you start using it after awhile it will tank your sex drive and appetite. If you keep your doses low, it shouldn't be difficult quitting but may not help with sleep.

[The Keto Kid]

I find that Red can help with sleep and is similar to a sedative.

White and green are similar in effect but I've always found white to be more intense. In smaller doses it provides a physical pick-me-up in the way that the first coffee of the day provides a mental pick me up.

The green and white are great for eliminating small aches and pains. A little achiness in the morning, knees, lower back, when your legs feel heavy and lack energy. A small dose of white, like 1 or 2 grams, really erases alot of those body aches and the result is you feel better somewhat more energetic. 

But even the white and green will become more of a sedative if you take higher dises, like 5 to 10 grams at a time.

I quit kratom a few years ago and it was a bitch. I started again a few years later because I was having a hard time sleeping and kratom was only thing that worked.  I had to quit again- traveling outside of the country and just didn't want the hassle- and it was alot easier to quit. Ive started and stopped several other times. Each time any withdrawl-like effects are less and less.

If you start using it after awhile it will tank your sex drive and appetite. If you keep your doses low, it shouldn't be difficult quitting but may not help with sleep.

Thanks for the insight,  I was actually looking for something to replace coffee/caffeine,  also wouldn't mind something to help with little aches and pain we get from training. Would there be a strand you recommend pre workout?

[bhank]

Thanks for the insight,  I was actually looking for something to replace coffee/caffeine,  also wouldn't mind something to help with little aches and pain we get from training. Would there be a strand you recommend pre workout?

The Nubain strain is great for aches and pains but seriously the stuff is crap

[beakdoctor]

Thanks for the insight,  I was actually looking for something to replace coffee/caffeine,  also wouldn't mind something to help with little aches and pain we get from training. Would there be a strand you recommend pre workout?

It's kind of hit and miss. Different vendors, dozens of strains, I can't recommend any particular brand and the different regions have differences too(thai, Indonesia, malaw, borneo) generally speaking Ive found the white ones best for working out as long as you keep the dose small.

[Coach is Back!]

Anyone here use Kratom? Was wondering about this stuff and if any Getbiggers have tried it and their experience with it.

My old training partner, an IFBB pro used it and it caused him some problems with arrhythmia’s long after he stopped it. I’ve never used it but after his experience I never would

[beakdoctor]

My old training partner, an IFBB pro used it and it caused him some problems with arrhythmia’s long agree he stopped it. I’ve never used it but after his experience I never would

Interesting.  I've never heard of this happening before.

[Lartinos]

Disliked it at first and years later I tried it again and now I like it.

[Matt]

My old training partner, an IFBB pro used it and it caused him some problems with arrhythmia’s long after he stopped it. I’ve never used it but after his experience I never would

My Kratom-loving friend said this, when I showed him your post:

"So he had arythmias LONG AFTER taking Kratom, while he was taking PED's? I'm sure it couldn't have been the PED's."

I never mentioned PED's to him, lol. He assumed...because this is a bodybuilding board!

Hm. Coach - Kratom is a stimulant, but I don't think it would cause arythmias AFTER using it?

I've never heard of that, anyway. So I don't know.

As for the OP - I was doing a 25g pack about every two weeks for a while.

I stopped because I didn't want that to increase. Especially during lockdown.

[Gym-Rat]

I have some but never got much out of it
there are better things out there (edibles, delta-8, etc)

[beakdoctor]

I have some but never got much out of it
there are better things out there (edibles, delta-8, etc)

Whats delta 8? More weed?

[ThisisOverload]

Whats delta 8? More weed?

A variant of THC. Legal in most states but very mild.

[Chidoman]

A  heaping teaspoon of super green maeng da, toss it and wash it down with clamato juice 20 mins before working out will give you clean energy and motivation to get shit done, that's how I take it and so far. so good then sip on a strong cup of coffee on my way to the gym.

[Taffin]

Whats delta 8? More weed?

Paging Doctor bhank...

 

[deadz]

My Kratom-loving friend said this, when I showed him your post:

"So he had arythmias LONG AFTER taking Kratom, while he was taking PED's? I'm sure it couldn't have been the PED's."

I never mentioned PED's to him, lol. He assumed...because this is a bodybuilding board!

Hm. Coach - Kratom is a stimulant, but I don't think it would cause arythmias AFTER using it?

I've never heard of that, anyway. So I don't know.

As for the OP - I was doing a 25g pack about every two weeks for a while.

I stopped because I didn't want that to increase. Especially during lockdown.

I’d also look to peds first. IFBB pro, lots of drugs.

[Coach is Back!]

I’d also look to peds first. IFBB pro, lots of drugs.

He's been retired for years. Still in great shape, still trains hard. 200grms test per week and that's it. Didn't have any cardiac issues before the Kratom, started having arrhythmia's during, didn't think much of it, continued taking it. Stopped it, still had problems months after discontinuing. He's fine now but not worth it IMO. He's 46 now

[beakdoctor]

A  heaping teaspoon of super green maeng da, toss it and wash it down with clamato juice 20 mins before working out will give you clean energy and motivation to get shit done, that's how I take it and so far. so good then sip on a strong cup of coffee on my way to the gym.

Any particular reason why you wash it down with Clamato?

Also do you only use it pre-workout?

[Marvin Martian]

My old training partner, an IFBB pro used it and it caused him some problems with arrhythmia’s long after he stopped it. I’ve never used it but after his experience I never would

Coach I agree with you on a lot but this simply is not true.

There is only one vendor with the TRUE enhanced and UEI and FST. The UEI and FST will stand for to toe with the strongest opiates - not 99% of the ones you see on the market but this is the original. They didn’t sell it for almost 8 years but brought it back for some of us recently. I only use in lieu of prescription pain meds because they are stronger than Oxy's  if needed and can be tapered easily. Used for a week or so - no issues l.

I have used kratom since before there was a single US vendor (I think mid late 90’s) and went 20 years without so much as a cold. ALOT of health benefits for this herb.

[BRUTALIFTRUE]

Brutal if true...