J. Alexander Kueng Goes On Trial First For George Floyd

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Well...now they are going to string up the rookie officers involved.  Looks like they are starting with the Java and then go after the F.C , and finally ending up with the Plaster. 


With Chauvin being part tomahawk  ...this is the weirdest hate crime prosecution ive ever seen.  But they literally have little chance of not being convicted

[Matt C]

Well...now they are going to string up the rookie officers involved.  Looks like they are starting with the Java and then go after the F.C , and finally ending up with the Plaster. 


With Chauvin being part tomahawk  ...this is the weirdest hate crime prosecution ive ever seen.  But they literally have little chance of not being convicted

I didn't know that.  Gotta love "hate crimes" though.  Lol, as opposed to "love crimes"?

What do you make of this case, Vince?  To be honest, I follow most of the racially charged cases, and I generally find that there is MUCH more to the story - like the killing of Rayshard Brooks for instance.  That case happened at a Wendy's in GEORGIA, and it resulted in the Wendy's here in Thunder Bay getting vandalized by BLM protesters.    What's more is that the Wendy's here is owned by East Indians!

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

I didn't know that.  Gotta love "hate crimes" though.  Lol, as opposed to "love crimes"?

What do you make of this case, Vince?  To be honest, I follow most of the racially charged cases, and I generally find that there is MUCH more to the story - like the killing of Rayshard Brooks for instance.  That case happened at a Wendy's in GEORGIA, and it resulted in the Wendy's here in Thunder Bay getting vandalized by BLM protesters.    What's more is that the Wendy's here is owned by East Indians!

It wasnt a hate crime.  Floyd and Chauvin worked security together at a nightclub part time.  Chauvin should have been convicted of negligent homicide as he placed his knee on his neck and failed to recognize his vitals as a 20 year vetaran. However the trial outcome was unfaired influenced by politicans inckuding the president and jurors were threatened with anything other than a guilty verdict for murder.  He was obviously not given due process or a fair and impartial trial.

The 3 other officers were rookies and on or just recently finished with their probationary period.  They could have been fired at will and the academy teaches you to follow the lead of the senior officer.  But they are not going to receive a fair trial and will likely be convicted.  Once again, politicans are influencing and threatening the jury.

George Floyd death was tragic but its been exploited for being something that it wasn't. Im glad im no longer in law enforcement

[Dave D]

It wasnt a hate crime.  Floyd and Chauvin worked security together at a nightclub part time.  Chauvin should have been convicted of negligent homicide as he placed his knee on his neck and failed to recognize his vitals as a 20 year vetaran. However the trial outcome was unfaired influenced by politicans inckuding the president and jurors were threatened with anything other than a guilty verdict for murder.  He was obviously not given due process or a fair and impartial trial.

The 3 other officers were rookies and on or just recently finished with their probationary period.  They could have been fired at will and the academy teaches you to follow the lead of the senior officer.  But they are not going to receive a fair trial and will likely be convicted.  Once again, politicans are influencing and threatening the jury.

George Floyd death was tragic but its been exploited for being something that it wasn't. Im glad im no longer in law enforcement

Matt’s point was all (violent) crimes are based on “hate” anger or rage. It’s redundant.

[Rusty Trombone]

Has anyone ever been charged with a racial hate crime against a white?

Matt Cawk, can we have a lengthy and studious answer?

Thank you.

[Moontrane]

Has anyone ever been charged with a racial hate crime against a white?

Matt Cawk, can we have a lengthy and studious answer?

Thank you.

I had no idea but, thanks for posting that question.  I'm not sure if this shows allegations or convictions.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/737681/number-of-racial-hate-crimes-in-the-us-by-race/

[Gym-Rat]

'hate-crime' 
joke of a term

another manufactured concept that morons fall for and use

[Flexacon]

Well...now they are going to string up the rookie officers involved.  Looks like they are starting with the Java and then go after the F.C , and finally ending up with the Plaster. 


With Chauvin being part tomahawk  ...this is the weirdest hate crime prosecution ive ever seen.  But they literally have little chance of not being convicted

You're like 90% wrong on these calls so it's pretty safe to say they will walk away from all this.

[Kwon]

Well...now they are going to string up the rookie officers involved.  Looks like they are starting with the Java and then go after the F.C , and finally ending up with the Plaster. 


With Chauvin being part tomahawk  ...this is the weirdest hate crime prosecution ive ever seen.  But they literally have little chance of not being convicted

Java?

F.C ?

Plaster

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Java?

F.C ?

Plaster

F.c.    Fortune Cookie

[Kwon]

F.c.    Fortune Cookie

So

One Cop was from Java (Jakarta) , another was Oriental, one was part Tomahawk (Injun/Mohican) and one was Plaster?

[will938]

It wasnt a hate crime.  Floyd and Chauvin worked security together at a nightclub part time.  Chauvin should have been convicted of negligent homicide as he placed his knee on his neck and failed to recognize his vitals as a 20 year vetaran. However the trial outcome was unfaired influenced by politicans inckuding the president and jurors were threatened with anything other than a guilty verdict for murder.  He was obviously not given due process or a fair and impartial trial.

The 3 other officers were rookies and on or just recently finished with their probationary period.  They could have been fired at will and the academy teaches you to follow the lead of the senior officer.  But they are not going to receive a fair trial and will likely be convicted.  Once again, politicans are influencing and threatening the jury.

George Floyd death was tragic but its been exploited for being something that it wasn't. Im glad im no longer in law enforcement

Absolutely spot on Vince👍

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Absolutely spot on Vince👍

I would add that placing the knee on the neck was used a long time ago to keep people from rolling around.  I've put my knee on the necks of inmates and people hauled in from intake when they got rowdy but only for less than a minute after cuffing them...but that was over 20 years ago and given that Chauvin worked for that amount of time, he was using older techniques....he just should not have kept it there and just thrown him in the back of the car.

[ThisisOverload]

It wasnt a hate crime.  Floyd and Chauvin worked security together at a nightclub part time.  Chauvin should have been convicted of negligent homicide as he placed his knee on his neck and failed to recognize his vitals as a 20 year vetaran. However the trial outcome was unfaired influenced by politicans inckuding the president and jurors were threatened with anything other than a guilty verdict for murder.  He was obviously not given due process or a fair and impartial trial.

The 3 other officers were rookies and on or just recently finished with their probationary period.  They could have been fired at will and the academy teaches you to follow the lead of the senior officer.  But they are not going to receive a fair trial and will likely be convicted.  Once again, politicans are influencing and threatening the jury.

George Floyd death was tragic but its been exploited for being something that it wasn't. Im glad im no longer in law enforcement

Exactly.

[bigkid]

Vince nailed it

[Gym-Rat]

vince is one of the smarter, level-headed gents out there
quality gent

[beakdoctor]

Who gives a shit? It will be a sham trial. His fate is already sealed. Whole saga has been a perversion of justice.  A travesty.

[tommywishbone]

The piece of shit is dead.

The other piece of shit is in prison.

Another piece of shit goes to prison... fine.

[wes]

The piece of shit is dead.

The other piece of shit is in prison.

Another piece of shit goes to prison... fine.

You`re the man Tom.  LOL 

[Moontrane]

I would add that placing the knee on the neck was used a long time ago to keep people from rolling around.  I've put my knee on the necks of inmates and people hauled in from intake when they got rowdy but only for less than a minute after cuffing them...but that was over 20 years ago and given that Chauvin worked for that amount of time, he was using older techniques....he just should not have kept it there and just thrown him in the back of the car.

Before Floyd was on the ground, he was refusing to remain in the back of a police vehicle and demanding to get on the ground.  Would that he simply complied instead repeating his “Don’t shoot! “ Mama!” routine from the year before.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Before Floyd was on the ground, he was refusing to remain in the back of a police vehicle and demanding to get on the ground.  Would that he simply complied instead repeating his “Don’t shoot! “ Mama!” routine from the year before.

Doors have locks.  Hogtie him and drive away

[Moontrane]

Doors have locks.  Hogtie him and drive away

Dude, I'm with you.  Your approach would have prevented the spectacle.  I just think that he was tall enough to be a problem for the cops at both doors, and that his continuous blubbering influenced the cops to allow him to lie on the street, which leaded to...

[wes]

Four full grown cops.....whack criminal on head with club if needed...cuff the fucker...throw in car....drive away...beat the living shit out of him off camera when at the station then claim he fell down the stairs......PROBLEM SOLVED. 

[Gym-Rat]

soem cops are bottom of the barrel stupid
these clowns not too bright
floyds dead, these clowns wont be around, win/win

[Rusty Trombone]

I would add that placing the knee on the neck was used a long time ago to keep people from rolling around.  I've put my knee on the necks of inmates and people hauled in from intake when they got rowdy but only for less than a minute after cuffing them...but that was over 20 years ago and given that Chauvin worked for that amount of time, he was using older techniques....he just should not have kept it there and just thrown him in the back of the car.

Vince,have you ever used your mighty kielbasa to subdue these wretched individuals?