Trt optimization hack

[The Keto Kid]

So I've been on trt for a few years and my numbers have been high end of normal, like 800-900 range, chatting with my doc about trying to increase it even more, obviously he could only prescribe me 200mg test a week, but he said to break up the shots, instead of 1cc weekly shot, do half cc twice a week and break up the arimidex half tab twice a week days after injection. Been doing this strategy for 5 months and just got my labs back and test levels dramatically increased. Thought I'd share this with fellow Getbiggers who are on trt. Only downside is more needles/2 shots a week.

[pamith]

Brutal if true

[AbrahamG]

So I've been on trt for a few years and my numbers have been high end of normal, like 800-900 range, chatting with my doc about trying to increase it even more, obviously he could only prescribe me 200mg test a week, but he said to break up the shots, instead of 1cc weekly shot, do half cc twice a week and break up the arimidex half tab twice a week days after injection. Been doing this strategy for 5 months and just got my labs back and test levels dramatically increased. Thought I'd share this with fellow Getbiggers who are on trt. Only downside is more needles/2 shots a week.

How do you feel?  I suspect you could lower the arimidex dose since you are breaking up the test dosage.  You estradiol is pretty low although still technically in range.

[Gym-Rat]

actually its a very old well-known way to do trt
but glad you got it figured out
is the AI really needed though? have you gotten bloods done without it?
most on real trt wont need an AI

[Omega Male]

Since your test level is now out of range, will your doc lower the test dose to bring you back within range?

[The Keto Kid]

How do you feel?  I suspect you could lower the arimidex dose since you are breaking up the test dosage.  You estradiol is pretty low although still technically in range.

I feel good, strong, great energy, great libido,  I was shocked at the estrogen level, going to keep it at half a tab for awhile.

[The Keto Kid]

actually its a very old well-known way to do trt
but glad you got it figured out
is the AI really needed though? have you gotten bloods done without it?
most on real trt wont need an AI

I'm on prescription trt under doctors supervision, my estrogen has always been in mid range prior to this experiment, so I'm going to cut the dose to half a tab for a few months and wait till my next set of lab work.

[The Keto Kid]

Since your test level is now out of range, will your doc lower the test dose to bring you back within range?

he actually hasn't said anything so I guess I'm ok, if anything I'll tell him I took a shot a day prior to the labs, because he recommends getting labs done 4 days after last injection.

[Rambone]

Drop the AI. HTH

Your labs are probably different because you tested closer to the injection time with the bi weekly injection. Bi weekly injections is the minimum frequency norm in TRT for those in the know

[Van_Bilderass]

Some are claiming high normal levels from just 10mg per day. Many forumites claim daily shots just feels better, in a good way.

[The Keto Kid]

Drop the AI. HTH

Your labs are probably different because you tested closer to the injection time with the bi weekly injection. Bi weekly injections is the minimum frequency norm in TRT for those in the know

I actually waited 4 days to see how this protocol worked out.

[The Keto Kid]

Some are claiming high normal levels from just 10mg per day. Many forumites claim daily shots just feels better, in a good way.

I heard that as well,  my doc won't prescribe me test prop.

[Rambone]

I actually waited 4 days to see how this protocol worked out.

Really? Interesting. I wouldn’t think it would affect your levels that much. You were doing 100mg/week and then went to 50mg/twice a week, right?

[Mayday]

Why not use another compound?

Trt Enth I am looking for another shot by day 5-6. I always felt behind.

Trt sust I can go 2 weeks without a shot and be ok then catch-up at home.

1ml sust once every fortnight works great if I am over pinning weekly.

Sust was used for trt decades ago and people loved it. Today people use 5 day esters and complain they don’t feel good.

I think that’s how all this BS about trt being 250-400/wk started. Dudes are using a short life compound with the wrong pinning schedule. It’s super simple, short ester = more frequency.

[bhank]

I will actually take time off when I need legs and glutes to work. Ideally you want to go at least twice a week. However sometimes I will go a week if not lifting and doing other stuff. I really can’t feel a  difference. I actually feel best if I take a week off.

[bhank]

So I've been on trt for a few years and my numbers have been high end of normal, like 800-900 range, chatting with my doc about trying to increase it even more, obviously he could only prescribe me 200mg test a week, but he said to break up the shots, instead of 1cc weekly shot, do half cc twice a week and break up the arimidex half tab twice a week days after injection. Been doing this strategy for 5 months and just got my labs back and test levels dramatically increased. Thought I'd share this with fellow Getbiggers who are on trt. Only downside is more needles/2 shots a week.

Are your levels really higher or did you just take a shot closer to the testing date. You don’t need any armidex just an expensive ancillary they are selling you. You are actually better off without it.

[Van_Bilderass]

I heard that as well,  my doc won't prescribe me test prop.

No, they only use Test E like this. Test E is much "quicker" than internet charts say. Levels supposedly peak within a day, maybe it was even 12 hours, forgot. Subq shots too for maximum ease.

[Gym-Rat]

No, they only use Test E like this. Test E is much "quicker" than internet charts say. Levels supposedly peak within a day, maybe it was even 12 hours, forgot. Subq shots too for maximum ease.

i have gotten bloods done many times a year
ive used sub-q and inter-muscular
never saw a difference in my test-levels
so yup, sub-q is fine as well

[deadz]

I use 500mg of TE weekly and only a .5mg of a-dex and my estradiol is always in the 30’s which is good. You’re using too much a-dex.

[wes]

Still haven`t started my TRT but that`s the exactly way I plan on doing it minus the Arimidex.....fifty mgs. twice per week and adjust if I feel the need.

[The Keto Kid]

Really? Interesting. I wouldn’t think it would affect your levels that much. You were doing 100mg/week and then went to 50mg/twice a week, right?

200mg a week, test e, just broke up the shots 2 shots of 100mg a week, 1mg armidex broken to half a tab twice a week.

[The Keto Kid]

Are your levels really higher or did you just take a shot closer to the testing date. You don’t need any armidex just an expensive ancillary they are selling you. You are actually better off without it.

they are higher, like I said I wanted to see the difference so I waited 4 days from my last pin to get tested. The arimidex was needed at 1mg at least due to my previous labs the last few years, but now I'm definitely cutting the dose to half a tab, or go a few weeks without it.

[Rambone]

200mg a week, test e, just broke up the shots 2 shots of 100mg a week, 1mg armidex broken to half a tab twice a week.

Hmmm I don’t see how it’s possible to be in the 800-900 range when injecting 200mg and doing labs a few days later. That’s a whopping dose for TRT. The conversion is nearly double the natural testosterone of a naturally elite producer

[AbrahamG]

Hmmm I don’t see how it’s possible to be in the 800-900 range when injecting 200mg and doing labs a few days later. That’s a whopping dose for TRT. The conversion is nearly double the natural testosterone of a naturally elite producer

Everyone metabolizes differently I think. For me 120mgs put me at 1215 day after inj. On day 7 I was at 706.

[Gym-Rat]

Everyone metabolizes differently I think. For me 120mgs put me at 1215 day after inj. On day 7 I was at 706.

yup
ive seen tons of bloods from different trt and anabolic users
a very normal rule for many is the 5x rule.

5x 200 mg = 1000 total test
of course like abe says, everyone is a bit different
but the 5x rule always applies to me when I test at least (and many others)

been doing 150 milligrams a week (1/2 a cc split, as I have some 300 mg test right now).
always between 700-800 total for me (5x 150 mg = 750 total)