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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6750 on: Today at 01:54:30 PM »
Not a full scale war by any stretch of the imagination.

Why would they intentionally hold back from achieving their objectives as swiftly as possible? They went all in at the beginning trying to take Kyiv thinking it would be a walk in the park and got kicked back. The more needless deaths the lower the moral in Russia so why not dominate swiftly and save the lives of your own people? They tried but could not and still struggle to take a few km here and there.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6751 on: Today at 02:34:27 PM »
Why would they intentionally hold back from achieving their objectives as swiftly as possible? They went all in at the beginning trying to take Kyiv thinking it would be a walk in the park and got kicked back. The more needless deaths the lower the moral in Russia so why not dominate swiftly and save the lives of your own people? They tried but could not and still struggle to take a few km here and there.

The woman I got the hotel with said that Ukrainian women and children come here to see thier husbands/father's who are on break from the navy and she said that they go back to Ukraine on their own choice so therefore it's thier fault when they lose their lives from Russian attack

A bit harsh thing to say if you ask me

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6752 on: Today at 02:54:28 PM »
The woman I got the hotel with said that Ukrainian women and children come here to see thier husbands/father's who are on break from the navy and she said that they go back to Ukraine on their own choice so therefore it's thier fault when they lose their lives from Russian attack

A bit harsh thing to say if you ask me
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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6753 on: Today at 03:02:59 PM »
Why would they intentionally hold back from achieving their objectives as swiftly as possible? They went all in at the beginning trying to take Kyiv thinking it would be a walk in the park and got kicked back. The more needless deaths the lower the moral in Russia so why not dominate swiftly and save the lives of your own people? They tried but could not and still struggle to take a few km here and there.

Just speculating, and from what others have said, the calculation always has to take into account what other countries will do as a response, not just Ukraine. Just like Ukraine has to take into account what the response would be if they somehow could kill Putin. Or what Iran's and the Muslim world's response would be if The Supreme Leader in Iran would be assassinated. I think Russia doesn't want the US involved even more overtly. They don't want WWIII. I mean I think Russia has held back on doing assassinations of the Ukrainan leadership until now, surely they could do that if they wanted to? At the same time I'm sure they have had miscalculations and fails, but they're supposed to have many contingency plans in place.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #6754 on: Today at 03:52:28 PM »
What do you base your assertion on?
Do you honestly think the US would openly tell their competitors that they are almost out of Patriot missiles? That would be like Ukraine and Russia being honest about the number of troops killed. :D
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