Russia has penetrated Ukraine

[obsidian]

Some people here liked the Americans but in recent years I think that has changed due to European countries being flooded with " refugees "
European countries are a dumping ground after every conflict that the USA controls. Obviously the UK has played its part too but Uncle Sam is calling the shots ..it has the yard keys 
But yes I don't think the Chinese are too worried about the USA now.

The European politicians did not have to flood their nations with "refugees". Nobody voted on the population replacement. The politicians are mostly bought and paid for prostitutes. We all know who REALLY wanted to flood Europe with POCs - and the endless "wars" or regime replacements was partly just an excuse to create refugees - besides exploiting their resources. Maybe the refugees it created was an added bonus world these globalists.

It used to bother me as this systematic and forced replacement of the European populations progressed. Now I don't give a fuck. The Europeans never killed or impaled (like Vlad) their whore politicians so they deserve what's coming. It's still going to be violent, but now it will be a bigger mess. There will be civil wars if the Europeans have any back bones. If they are all cucks, yeah then they can go quietly in the night.

[Kwon]

Some people here liked the Americans but in recent years I think that has changed due to European countries being flooded with " refugees "
European countries are a dumping ground after every conflict that the USA controls. Obviously the UK has played its part too but Uncle Sam is calling the shots ..it has the yard keys 
But yes I don't think the Chinese are too worried about the USA now.

Politicians and the Powers That Be flooding Europe with These Fugees, was the first sign of The End Times.

Another Crusade is needed.

[Donny]

Politicians and the Powers That Be flooding Europe with These Fugees, was the first sign of The End Times.

Another Crusade is needed.

100% correct except now they´ve invaded our shores already

[dj181]

Politicians and the Powers That Be flooding Europe with These Fugees, was the first sign of The End Times.

Another Crusade is needed.

Will never ever fucking happen

98% of all peeps are goddaamn sheeple

"Meek and obedient you follow the leader down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

[chaos]

Some people here liked the Americans but in recent years I think that has changed due to European countries being flooded with " refugees "
European countries are a dumping ground after every conflict that the USA controls. Obviously the UK has played its part too but Uncle Sam is calling the shots ..it has the yard keys 
But yes I don't think the Chinese are too worried about the USA now.

If you don't like the US having the "yard keys", take them. How you people would cry for our tax dollars and military bases if we pulled out.

[chaos]

It's still going to be violent, but now it will be a bigger mess. There will be civil wars if the Europeans have any back bones. If they are all cucks, yeah then they can go quietly in the night.

With what? Their kitchen knives and tire irons?

[Donny]

If you don't like the US having the "yard keys", take them. How you people would cry for our tax dollars and military bases if we pulled out.

you´ve repeated yourself on this thread, calm down "redneck dude" 

[chaos]

you´ve repeated yourself on this thread, calm down "redneck dude" 

I need you to understand how much I despise you people and your government receiving my tax dollars while you're a bunch of ungrateful cunts.

[B_B_C]

you´ve repeated yourself on this thread, calm down "redneck dude" 

There are 10 USAF bases in the UK   

The UK has been the USA's largest and most obliging aircraft carrier for decades

[Donny]

There are 10 USAF bases in the UK   

The UK has been the USA's largest and most obliging aircraft carrier for decades

Of course, same as in Europe.

[Van_Bilderass]

If you call them proxy warriors then I think you side with Russia. How could they find the will to fight if they were just fighting for Nato? Putin has made it very clear; he wants all of Ukraine and will not be stopping the war.

The "will" on the part of the Ukrainians can be very real , doesn't mean that for the The Empire it's a proxy war. You know young men fight, often on false premises. You know there's forced enscriptions, and there are massive defections, AWOLs, from the front line. Surely from the other  side as well, but it's mostly on the losing side where you're doing essentially suicide missions and you know it. Some Ukie generals have stepped down for this reason.

Putin has NOT made clear that he wants the whole of Ukraine. Both in speech and in deed. He's not stopping the war because it makes zero strategic sense. Do a ceasefire and it will just be a period of rearmament. He wants to put in on paper, he wants NATO to offer guarantees that Ukraine will never join NATO. Now the demands have gotten tougher, no EU membership either because the EU is not just about trade agreements, it is hostile to Russia. Without considering morals and ethics, what Russia is doing  is completely RATIONAL from their POV.

Like I said, I don't have an emotional attachements to neither Russia or Ukraine. I'm just doing a VERY amateur assessment based on everything I've read. I should have an automatic anti-Russian stance being Finnish. Plus Ukraine has these Nazis in charge, and I'm sort of of the opinion that WWII mainstream description of it isn't exactly correct from several angles  Russia is a multiracial and multiethnic country and I don't believe in multiracialism.

You have that Ukrainian gf. You are British and your country is extremely hostime towards Russia, seems this conflict is priority, Starmer's top priority is this conflict, neglecting everything domestic. What other conflicts of interests do you have, what's your relationship towards Jews since you have an obvious pro-Israel stance?
EDIT: now I remember you were Irish right? Sorry.


I know my posts are probably TL;DR for most, but I just want to be clear and I'd love to hear your opinions as well

[illuminati]

The "will" on the part of the Ukrainians can be very real , doesn't mean that for the The Empire it's a proxy war. You know young men fight, often on false premises. You know there's forced enscriptions, and there are massive defections, AWOLs, from the front line. Surely from the other  side as well, but it's mostly on the losing side where you're doing essentially suicide missions and you know it. Some Ukie generals have stepped down for this reason.

Putin has NOT made clear that he wants the whole of Ukraine. Both in speech and in deed. He's not stopping the war because it makes zero strategic sense. Do a ceasefire and it will just be a period of rearmament. He wants to put in on paper, he wants NATO to offer guarantees that Ukraine will never join NATO. Now the demands have gotten tougher, no EU membership either because the EU is not just about trade agreements, it is hostile to Russia. Without considering morals and ethics, what Russia is doing  is completely RATIONAL from their POV.

Like I said, I don't have an emotional attachements to neither Russia or Ukraine. I'm just doing a VERY amateur assessment based on everything I've read. I should have an automatic anti-Russian stance being Finnish. Plus Ukraine has these Nazis in charge, and I'm sort of of the opinion that WWII mainstream description of it isn't exactly correct from several angles  Russia is a multiracial and multiethnic country and I don't believe in multiracialism.

You have that Ukrainian gf. You are British and your country is extremely hostime towards Russia, seems this conflict is priority, Starmer's top priority is this conflict, neglecting everything domestic. What other conflicts of interests do you have, what's your relationship towards Jews since you have an obvious pro-Israel stance?

I know my posts are probably TL;DR for most, but I just want to be clear and I'd love to hear your opinions as well

That puppet Zelensky has stashed away a fortune - he don't give a toss about
His soldiers or people , He'll have it away on his toes with all that money
Soon as.  His wife jetting around the world spending fortunes on expensive
Clothes etcetera. 🤬🤬🤬

I cannot stand the Traitorous Khvnt Stammer- Fucking idiot trying to get UK involved
Against Russia 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

As For the Jews or those at the top they should all be wiped out & their families
Nothing but Fucking trouble makers.
Always the Victim    Never the aggressor/ trouble makers - Yeah right.

[BigRo]

That puppet Zelensky has stashed away a fortune - he don't give a toss about
His soldiers or people , He'll have it away on his toes with all that money
Soon as.  His wife jetting around the world spending fortunes on expensive
Clothes etcetera. 🤬🤬🤬

I cannot stand the Traitorous Khvnt Stammer- Fucking idiot trying to get UK involved
Against Russia 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

As For the Jews or those at the top they should all be wiped out & their families
Nothing but Fucking trouble makers.
Always the Victim    Never the aggressor/ trouble makers - Yeah right.

You have no proof Zelensky is stashing away a fortune.

[illuminati]

You have no proof Zelensky is stashing away a fortune.

And you have zero proof he isn't. 

His wife sure spends a lot & lives the high life.

[BigRo]

The "will" on the part of the Ukrainians can be very real , doesn't mean that for the The Empire it's a proxy war. You know young men fight, often on false premises. You know there's forced enscriptions, and there are massive defections, AWOLs, from the front line. Surely from the other  side as well, but it's mostly on the losing side where you're doing essentially suicide missions and you know it. Some Ukie generals have stepped down for this reason.

Putin has NOT made clear that he wants the whole of Ukraine. Both in speech and in deed. He's not stopping the war because it makes zero strategic sense. Do a ceasefire and it will just be a period of rearmament. He wants to put in on paper, he wants NATO to offer guarantees that Ukraine will never join NATO. Now the demands have gotten tougher, no EU membership either because the EU is not just about trade agreements, it is hostile to Russia. Without considering morals and ethics, what Russia is doing  is completely RATIONAL from their POV.

Like I said, I don't have an emotional attachements to neither Russia or Ukraine. I'm just doing a VERY amateur assessment based on everything I've read. I should have an automatic anti-Russian stance being Finnish. Plus Ukraine has these Nazis in charge, and I'm sort of of the opinion that WWII mainstream description of it isn't exactly correct from several angles  Russia is a multiracial and multiethnic country and I don't believe in multiracialism.

You have that Ukrainian gf. You are British and your country is extremely hostime towards Russia, seems this conflict is priority, Starmer's top priority is this conflict, neglecting everything domestic. What other conflicts of interests do you have, what's your relationship towards Jews since you have an obvious pro-Israel stance?
EDIT: now I remember you were Irish right? Sorry.


I know my posts are probably TL;DR for most, but I just want to be clear and I'd love to hear your opinions as well

Yes Irish not British though I am biologically half English. I am not sure about the relevance of saying " you have THAT Ukrainian girlfriend", I have said many times on here that my position regarding this war, yes war, was formed prior to meeting her.

Nothing I have said has alluded to a pro Israel stance. Must I express some Jew hatred on here in order to have my senses rendered a green light?

"Ukraine has these Nazi's in charge" this is Russian propaganda, there are no nazi's in charge, Zelensky is a Jew. The real nazis invaded a sovereign country under the pretext of denazification yet their actions have shown that it is they your buddies who are the real nazis, do you consider the atrocities in Bucha to be Ukrainian propaganda or real?

Putin has made it expressly clear in recent talks that he considers all of Ukraine to be his, that they are a misguided little brother who needs to undergo proper Russian brainwashing, that there is no such thing as a distinct Ukrainian people etc.

Of course the will to fight is very real because it is their existence as a sovereign people that is under attack, if they put up no fight then they would have to live as subjugated citizens of an enlarged Russia. It is entirely irrational to preemptively attack your neighbour sending a million of your men to their death. You talk about suicide missions but that's the way Russia fights in meat waves and you know it. And you talk about loosing but look how many Russian soldiers die for every little incremental gain made? The frontline has barely moved.

I am not against Russians as a whole, there are many good souls who know the truth.

[Van_Bilderass]

I am not sure about the relevance of saying " you have THAT Ukrainian girlfriend", I have said many times on here that my position regarding this war, yes war, was formed prior to meeting her.

Forgive me, when trying to understand someone's thought process you look at what might be influencing that. I didn't mention the gf before from what I remember but many have said that is why you are biased on this conflict. If it isn't I'll take your word for it, can't read minds.

It wasn't based on much but I thought I detected a pro-Israel stance, like when you said, iirc, the Iran regime is censoring the internet from regular Iranians, but didn't see the Israeli, or Ukrainian, censorship regimes.

I've seen too many credible people saying there are plently of pro-Bandera ("Nazi") people in Ukr close to levers of power. Lots of control of military units and of equipment (at the start of the war the Azov batallion carried those wolfshook Nazi emblems). They have threatened the life of Zelensky if he defects by conceding anything to Russia. I simply don't buy that the "Nazi" contingent isn't there at all. I could put a huge post up there of all the evidence but people would just get irritated by my overly long posts

I don't think Boris Johnson knew what he was holding up. How do you explain this? The wolfshook and the Black Sun aren't accidental. Yes it's ironic that Jews/Israel has supported the Nazis, but it's a case of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." Also why Zelensky supports them despite them being antisemitic. The Nazis support Zelensky for the same reason. Western media didn't make a big deal of this because Russia is the real enemy. But imagine if it was the other way around and it was Russians who carried Nazi emblems. It's why Jews arm and support antisemitic Sunni terrorists in the ME. Why they currently arm ISIS related element in Gaza! Bibi confirmed they are giving these terrorists machine guns.

[dj181]

Shitsa caused all this by lying thorough thier fucking teeth

There's a very good souled Jewish fella named Jeffery Sachs and he speaks the fucking truth

[Van_Bilderass]

Shitsa caused all this by lying thorough thier fucking teeth

There's a very good souled Jewish fella named Jeffery Sachs and he speaks the fucking truth

Incredibly some months ago Trump tweeted a video of Sachs critisizing Netanyahoo in very harsh terms. Even the Coach here said one video with Sachs made him think.

There are some righteous Jews, The Grayzone channel on youtube is good, Max Blumenthal and Aaron Mate.

Sachs was an economist helping Russia, I think he assured Gorbatchev and Yeltsin that the US was looking for a better relationship: he's ashamed of it now.

[dj181]

Incredibly some months ago Trump tweeted a video of Sachs critisizing Netanyahoo in very harsh terms. Even the Coach here said one video with Sachs made him think.

There are some righteous Jews, The Grayzone channel on youtube is good, Max Blumenthal and Aaron Mate.

Sachs was an economist helping Russia, I think he assured Gorbatchev and Yeltsin that the US was looking for a better relationship: he's ashamed of it now.

Yep he's an amazing kind good soul

If one of you fucks here would try to harm him I would viciously attack you no talk no questions asked just action😉

[IroNat]

Yep he's an amazing kind good soul

If one of you fucks here would try to harm him I would viciously attack you no talk no questions asked just action😉

Oh bullshit.  You wouldn't do squat you momma's boy.

[dj181]

Oh bullshit.  You wouldn't do squat you momma's boy.

Think what you want

You ever stand toe to toe with a highly skilled heavyweight boxer.and take full out body shots from him?

I did and in fact after the first spar he gave me the greatest comp I ever got he said .... You are very brave

[honest]

Forgive me, when trying to understand someone's thought process you look at what might be influencing that. I didn't mention the gf before from what I remember but many have said that is why you are biased on this conflict. If it isn't I'll take your word for it, can't read minds.

It wasn't based on much but I thought I detected a pro-Israel stance, like when you said, iirc, the Iran regime is censoring the internet from regular Iranians, but didn't see the Israeli, or Ukrainian, censorship regimes.

I've seen too many credible people saying there are plently of pro-Bandera ("Nazi") people in Ukr close to levers of power. Lots of control of military units and of equipment (at the start of the war the Azov batallion carried those wolfshook Nazi emblems). They have threatened the life of Zelensky if he defects by conceding anything to Russia. I simply don't buy that the "Nazi" contingent isn't there at all. I could put a huge post up there of all the evidence but people would just get irritated by my overly long posts

I don't think Boris Johnson knew what he was holding up. How do you explain this? The wolfshook and the Black Sun aren't accidental. Yes it's ironic that Jews/Israel has supported the Nazis, but it's a case of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." Also why Zelensky supports them despite them being antisemitic. The Nazis support Zelensky for the same reason. Western media didn't make a big deal of this because Russia is the real enemy. But imagine if it was the other way around and it was Russians who carried Nazi emblems. It's why Jews arm and support antisemitic Sunni terrorists in the ME. Why they currently arm ISIS related element in Gaza! Bibi confirmed they are giving these terrorists machine guns.

Putins choice of words doesn't help even though they are linked to nazi ideology but he would be better served calling them Ukrainian national front members basically a militia set up and funded by Kiev and CIA NATO intelligence to persecute the Russian minority in the east of the country, Russia then countered with its own militias or proxies. Russia does not want the country it just doesn't want its means of defence or counter attack neutralised by a missile defence shield on its door step. Appreciating it doesn't have the capacity to do similar in Canada and Mexico or anywhere in Europe outside of Belarus.

As I have said previously and Sachs has confirmed assurances were given to Gorbachev from Reagan  that there would be no further NATO expansion into ex soviet states. You can look this up now in the US national archives under the freedom of information.

NATO expansion started this war.

This war was started like all recent wars by aggressive western powers predominantly American foreign policy. Sadly Trump now with both involvement in wars and his unfunded big beautiful bill, has just joined all the former presidents of being more of the same, more wars and more debt, disappointing but still better than the socialist alternative.

[chaos]

Think what you want

You ever stand toe to toe with a highly skilled heavyweight boxer.and take full out body shots from him?

I did and in fact after the first spar he gave me the greatest comp I ever got he said .... You are very brave

LOL!!! These are the fairy tales that make getbig history.

[BigRo]

Forgive me, when trying to understand someone's thought process you look at what might be influencing that. I didn't mention the gf before from what I remember but many have said that is why you are biased on this conflict. If it isn't I'll take your word for it, can't read minds.

It wasn't based on much but I thought I detected a pro-Israel stance, like when you said, iirc, the Iran regime is censoring the internet from regular Iranians, but didn't see the Israeli, or Ukrainian, censorship regimes.

I've seen too many credible people saying there are plently of pro-Bandera ("Nazi") people in Ukr close to levers of power. Lots of control of military units and of equipment (at the start of the war the Azov batallion carried those wolfshook Nazi emblems). They have threatened the life of Zelensky if he defects by conceding anything to Russia. I simply don't buy that the "Nazi" contingent isn't there at all. I could put a huge post up there of all the evidence but people would just get irritated by my overly long posts

I don't think Boris Johnson knew what he was holding up. How do you explain this? The wolfshook and the Black Sun aren't accidental. Yes it's ironic that Jews/Israel has supported the Nazis, but it's a case of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." Also why Zelensky supports them despite them being antisemitic. The Nazis support Zelensky for the same reason. Western media didn't make a big deal of this because Russia is the real enemy. But imagine if it was the other way around and it was Russians who carried Nazi emblems. It's why Jews arm and support antisemitic Sunni terrorists in the ME. Why they currently arm ISIS related element in Gaza! Bibi confirmed they are giving these terrorists machine guns.

The azov battalion had a nazi fetish during its early years but at the start of the war there was no sign of all that insignia on them. I don't understand why they would want such insignia on flags but when it comes to what is happening on the ground, the behavior of either those in power or the soldiers I don't see blatant acts of overpowering evil, I mean its quite evil to capture unwilling men and force them to the front line but its another level of evil to mow down innocent civilians under the pretext of denazification. Are you aware how Ukrainians would be treated if Russia took over control of Kyiv? Your making a big hoopla about emblems compared to the terror Russia is inflicting every day.

Zelensky is antisemetic? News to me. And what is a credible person to you Colon McGregor?

[Donny]

I need you to understand how much I despise you people and your government receiving my tax dollars while you're a bunch of ungrateful cunts.

You should be grateful that from 1585 - 1783  we planted our seeds & not only in your fields 😉