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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #7075 on: December 08, 2025, 03:07:01 AM »
Victory is certain with Russian soldiers riding in to battle on motorcycles.

They actually almost brag about these tactics. Putin says they infiltrate areas in packs of 2 or 3 men and it has been a successful strategy according to him. I don't know shit about warfare so can't judge either way. Obviously I know there are different ways to wage war, a war with Europe wouldn't be surgical like in Ukraine, it would be straight to strategic weapons with no one to negotiate with afterwards, as Putin said. It's pretty wild hearing Euros say they are considering preemptive NATO strikes on Russia. Hopefully it's just words.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #7076 on: December 08, 2025, 03:40:20 AM »
They actually almost brag about these tactics. Putin says they infiltrate areas in packs of 2 or 3 men and it has been a successful strategy according to him. I don't know shit about warfare so can't judge either way. Obviously I know there are different ways to wage war, a war with Europe wouldn't be surgical like in Ukraine, it would be straight to strategic weapons with no one to negotiate with afterwards, as Putin said. It's pretty wild hearing Euros say they are considering preemptive NATO strikes on Russia. Hopefully it's just words.

Likely there is some truth to it. Both sides (Russia and Euro members of NATO) are gonna ramp up this kinda back and forth. Each side accusing and provoking the other.

You'll probably be doom posting that we're on the brink of WWIII again, but that won't be the case. The goal is to cause fear and destabilisation in Europe, so the wealthier European countries increase their military spending and buy the latest weapons from the US military industrial complex

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #7077 on: December 08, 2025, 04:41:10 AM »
Likely there is some truth to it. Both sides (Russia and Euro members of NATO) are gonna ramp up this kinda back and forth. Each side accusing and provoking the other.

You'll probably be doom posting that we're on the brink of WWIII again, but that won't be the case. The goal is to cause fear and destabilisation in Europe, so the wealthier European countries increase their military spending and buy the latest weapons from the US military industrial complex

I said I hope it's just words, because no one can be as stupid as to push it to that level, right? What do you think of the earlier close calls, were they also not real?
For example:

"Yes, the Cuban Missile Crisis in October 1962 brought the world terrifyingly close to World War III, representing the peak Cold War confrontation where the US and Soviet Union nearly triggered nuclear war over Soviet missiles in Cuba, averted only by tense negotiations and crucial decisions like Vasili Arkhipov preventing a nuclear torpedo launch from a submarine, highlighting how miscalculation, not just strategy, could have led to global devastation"

Many credentialed people have said that during the 12 day war Netanyahu demanded Trump would come in or they would drop a nuke. I think Kirikaou is one if I'm not mistaken. These are just rumors to me, I don't know. The Russians have said no one wants WWIII but a small miscalculation could make things get out of hand, so there's always a small risk. I forget the details but a few years ago the US calculated something like a 10% risk of nuclear war due to something they were planning, I think it was under Biden. Too big of a chance IMO.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #7078 on: December 08, 2025, 08:16:17 AM »
I said I hope it's just words, because no one can be as stupid as to push it to that level, right? What do you think of the earlier close calls, were they also not real?
For example:

"Yes, the Cuban Missile Crisis in October 1962 brought the world terrifyingly close to World War III, representing the peak Cold War confrontation where the US and Soviet Union nearly triggered nuclear war over Soviet missiles in Cuba, averted only by tense negotiations and crucial decisions like Vasili Arkhipov preventing a nuclear torpedo launch from a submarine, highlighting how miscalculation, not just strategy, could have led to global devastation"

Many credentialed people have said that during the 12 day war Netanyahu demanded Trump would come in or they would drop a nuke. I think Kirikaou is one if I'm not mistaken. These are just rumors to me, I don't know. The Russians have said no one wants WWIII but a small miscalculation could make things get out of hand, so there's always a small risk. I forget the details but a few years ago the US calculated something like a 10% risk of nuclear war due to something they were planning, I think it was under Biden. Too big of a chance IMO.

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Let them and give them no help when the whole Middle East attacks them.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #7079 on: December 08, 2025, 11:01:43 AM »
Let them and give them no help when the whole Middle East attacks them.

Problem is the stated Samson Option. Bringing down the whole planet with them if they are existentially threatened. This gives them tremendous leverage and it's a very hard problem to solve. They have said they have nukes pointed everywhere in the world, all major cities. US ambassador to Israel just met with the traitor Jew who stole nuclear secrets from the US.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option






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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #7080 on: December 08, 2025, 02:36:03 PM »
I said I hope it's just words, because no one can be as stupid as to push it to that level, right? What do you think of the earlier close calls, were they also not real?

Your example from over 60 years ago has no relevance to my post.

As I said, it will be carefully managed and you will be screaming WWIII again.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #7081 on: December 08, 2025, 03:43:53 PM »
Going on four years?  Russia win yet?

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #7082 on: December 08, 2025, 03:54:27 PM »
Ukraine win yet?
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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #7083 on: December 08, 2025, 04:02:45 PM »
Victory is certain with Russian soldiers riding in to battle on motorcycles.
Confidence must be at an all time high.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #7084 on: December 09, 2025, 03:01:37 PM »
Your example from over 60 years ago has no relevance to my post.

As I said, it will be carefully managed and you will be screaming WWIII again.

How come you are so sure there's zero chance? Why are the nuclear treaties even mentioned or discussed by the US and Russia if they will never be used? Just for show? Why? I haven't seen anyone else be so certain on this. I don't know shit but it feels serious and a possibility to me.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #7085 on: December 10, 2025, 08:14:03 PM »
Col. Macgregor claims Russian forces are roaming free without resistance in Odessa and Kiev.


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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #7086 on: December 10, 2025, 08:18:12 PM »
Well they're in 'peace meetings' now.

Whether a sham or not, we'll see.
That’s because Trump is pushing for a peace deal — he clearly wants that Nobel Peace Prize moment, lol. He’s the one who invited Putin to Alaska; that wasn’t something Putin initiated. And even after that meeting, Russia continued its SMO.

Ukraine and the collective West want a ceasefire so they can regroup and rebuild their military capacity. But Russia is currently winning, so they have no incentive to freeze the conflict at the existing front lines. Why would they? They’re holding all the leverage right now and outproducing the West by orders of magnitude.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #7087 on: December 10, 2025, 08:21:32 PM »
Problem is the stated Samson Option. Bringing down the whole planet with them if they are existentially threatened. This gives them tremendous leverage and it's a very hard problem to solve. They have said they have nukes pointed everywhere in the world, all major cities. US ambassador to Israel just met with the traitor Jew who stole nuclear secrets from the US.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option


Which is why JFK opposed Israel's nuclear ambitions. And we all know what happened to him.

Israel can have their Samson Option. They are screwed if they ever attacked other nations with their nukes. It's a small land-area. At least Russia has holdouts in mountains and a vast terrain. Israel would be obliterated with one or two Tsar Bombas.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #7088 on: Today at 11:55:48 AM »
. But Russia is currently winning, so they have no incentive to freeze the conflict at the existing front lines. Why would they? They’re holding all the leverage right now and outproducing the West by orders of magnitude.

amazing results after 11 years
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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #7089 on: Today at 11:58:29 AM »
amazing results after 11 years
They could have ended it on day 1 with nukes. That was not the goal. Putin tried diplomacy and limited engagement. But it had to be escalated along the way. Russia defeated NATO via conventional warfare.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #7090 on: Today at 12:12:45 PM »
all be it evolving it is still an amazing result after 11 years
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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #7091 on: Today at 12:21:17 PM »
Col. Macgregor claims Russian forces are roaming free without resistance in Odessa and Kiev.



He talks some shit that boy.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #7092 on: Today at 02:32:33 PM »
I believe what Trump’s doing to Venezuela now may have something to do with Putin ignoring his calls to end the war with Ukraine.  Trump might be like “If you’re gonna do what you want with my ally on your side of the world, then I’m gonna do what I want with your ally on my side of the world.”

This makes Venezuela a bargaining chip for negotiations.

Worst case scenario, Ukraine becomes part of Russia and oil rich Venezuela becomes the 52nd US state, after Canada.

The US military:



vs Venezuela: