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Yates Row - for a big back
« on: March 14, 2022, 12:35:55 PM »

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Re: Yates Row - for a big back
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2022, 06:28:44 PM »
there are no gains to be had by one exercise over another just new angles

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Re: Yates Row - for a big back
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2022, 08:14:10 PM »
there are no gains to be had by one exercise over another just new angles

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A good way to build legs is by compound movements like bicep curls. This will help your chest as well.

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Re: Yates Row - for a big back
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2022, 09:33:15 PM »
Biggest back ever

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Re: Yates Row - for a big back
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2022, 02:01:24 AM »
there are no gains to be had by one exercise over another just new angles

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yes because 1-arm tricep kick-backs build giant mass & power like close-grip bench, jm press and floor-presses.  ::)

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Re: Yates Row - for a big back
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2022, 02:10:17 AM »


Yates rows for a big snap

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Re: Yates Row - for a big back
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2022, 02:20:01 AM »
yes because 1-arm tricep kick-backs build giant mass & power like close-grip bench, jm press and floor-presses.  ::)

I've seen about 100x more bodybuilders do tricep kickbacks than jm press or floor presses

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Re: Yates Row - for a big back
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2022, 02:25:18 AM »
I've seen about 100x more bodybuilders do tricep kickbacks than jm press or floor presses

proud of ya. they dont do jack-shit for size/strength.   ::)

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Re: Yates Row - for a big back
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2022, 02:44:39 AM »
proud of ya. they dont do jack-shit for size/strength.   ::)

to think, all this time the pro bbers were leaving gains on the table


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Re: Yates Row - for a big back
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2022, 02:57:22 AM »
to think, all this time the pro bbers were leaving gains on the table

Believe it or not, after the 1994 Mr Olympia, Chris Cormier admitted that his triceps were not on par with Kevin Levrone. He said that he was going to start incorporating the Reverse Grip Bench Press to build up his arm mass. I do know that the Barbarian Brothers and Anthony Clark trained at the same gym as Cormier. But I never actually saw pics or video or Cormier doing Reverse Grip Bench Presses.

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Re: Yates Row - for a big back
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2022, 03:02:05 AM »

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Re: Yates Row - for a big back
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2022, 04:59:45 AM »

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Re: Yates Row - for a big back
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2022, 05:38:22 AM »
A good way to build legs is by compound movements like bicep curls. This will help your chest as well.

x2 the body "grows as a whole", got to have a big squat to get big arms.

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Re: Yates Row - for a big back
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2022, 07:27:21 AM »
x2 the body "grows as a whole", got to have a big squat to get big arms.

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Re: Yates Row - for a big back
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2022, 07:39:39 AM »
No.


Think the general perception and thinking is that if you teach people to squat, they’ll build a foundation since they will have mastered the squat to move onto other exercises that require form.

There was a book in the 80s or 90s called Squat for Big Arms. Basically build a foundation (squat) and stimulating one muscles stimulated others to grow as well.

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Re: Yates Row - for a big back
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2022, 07:46:56 AM »
A good way to build legs is by compound movements like bicep curls. This will help your chest as well.

Yes, bicep curls builds massive quads and pecs. Tom Platz did preacher curls for his pecs.

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Re: Yates Row - for a big back
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2022, 07:49:20 AM »
yes because 1-arm tricep kick-backs build giant mass & power like close-grip bench, jm press and floor-presses.  ::)
please explain how your tricep knows the difference between a tricep kick back and a close grip bench press...

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Re: Yates Row - for a big back
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2022, 07:51:36 AM »

Think the general perception and thinking is that if you teach people to squat, they’ll build a foundation since they will have mastered the squat to move onto other exercises that require form.

There was a book in the 80s or 90s called Squat for Big Arms. Basically build a foundation (squat) and stimulating one muscles stimulated others to grow as well.

There are plenty of guys with big arms and no legs.  Very common.

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Re: Yates Row - for a big back
« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2022, 07:55:02 AM »
The difference between a tricep kickback and a close grip bench for the tricep muscles is the amount of weight used.

Of course the close grip also hits the pecs, delts and activates the lats because it is a compound movement.

Now, do you need big weights to produce hypertrophy in the triceps (or any muscle)?

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Re: Yates Row - for a big back
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2022, 07:55:55 AM »
please explain how your tricep knows the difference between a tricep kick back and a close grip bench press...

I will explain this. Kickbacks don’t provide much stretch on the tricep. It’s a short contraction movement.


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Re: Yates Row - for a big back
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2022, 07:58:18 AM »
I will explain this. Kickbacks don’t provide much stretch on the tricep. It’s a short contraction movement.



The elbow bends to 90 degrees on a kickback.

How much more flexion do you need?

Extreme elbow flexion can cause joint issues as with lying tricep extensions.

A lying tricep extension (skull crusher) is the same movement except lying down and with more weight.

Do you need heavy weights to develop the tricep?

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Re: Yates Row - for a big back
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2022, 08:00:46 AM »
The elbow bends to 90 degrees on a kickback.

How much more flexion do you need?

Extreme elbow flexion can cause joint issues.

The long head of the tricep doesn’t get stretched on kickbacks. Skull crushers and overhead extensions are needed to stretch the long head.

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Re: Yates Row - for a big back
« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2022, 08:04:38 AM »
The difference between a tricep kickback and a close grip bench for the tricep muscles is the amount of weight used.

Of course the close grip also hits the pecs, delts and activates the lats because it is a compound movement.

Now, do you need big weights to produce hypertrophy in the triceps (or any muscle)?

muscles dont know weight, they only know intensity.

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Re: Yates Row - for a big back
« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2022, 08:04:51 AM »
There are plenty of guys with big arms and no legs.  Very common.

Yeah of course. My training partner had 21 inch arms and legs that couldn’t grow under any type of stress it seemed. The principle is that a foundation is built with squats, deadlifts, etc. No direct stimulation for arm development is needed in theory if you are focusing on the large muscle compound movements.

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Re: Yates Row - for a big back
« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2022, 08:06:07 AM »
The long head of the tricep doesn’t get a stretched on kickbacks. Skull crushers and overhead extensions are needed to stretch the long head.

So, if you just do skull crushers will your triceps be completely developed maximally in all respects or does it concentrate on the long head?

Should you do kickbacks to concentrate on the lateral head?

https://www.anabolicaliens.com/blog/tricep-dumbbell-kickback

"While the tricep kickback works all three heads of the muscle, it especially targets the lateral head of the triceps."