Facing the Fat [40-Day Water Fast Documentary].

[Matt]

This documentary is about a man from Texas named Kenny Saylors, who is morbidly obese man [= BMI of 40+], who is ~5'9" and 315-lb [271-lb would be a BMI of 40]. Kenny's body fat was 53%. His lean body mass was 147-lb.

Apparently he fasted for 40 days on just water [the title says 50 days, but within seven minutes of the documentary, he says he picked 40], under medical supervision, but there have been suggestions online that he faked it:

It's sad that so many people today think EVERYTHING can be done overnight, as is often the case, but is really not the case with weight loss, since it's more about long-term lifestyle changes/practices, than it is about going on a diet.

I thought the documentary was new, and has a release date of 2009 on IMDB...but in one part he calls President Clinton's office, which leads me to believe that it was filmed in 2000.

From the looks of recent pictures of Kenny [the first one below is from 2017, and the next one is more recent] it appears that after filming was complete, he went back to his old habits.

It's no wonder he wasn't able to sustain his weight loss progress, from such an extreme and unsustainable program.

I would love to read Henda's opinion on this.

[Matt]

I had never heard of keto sticks before...have any Getbiggers used them? From blood testing I've done, I'm always just a wee bit into ketosis due to eating a low carbohydrate diet. I didn't even know you can do home tests for this:

https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/ketostix/6000198385598

[wes]

I had never heard of keto sticks before...have any Getbiggers used them? From blood testing I've done, I'm always just a wee bit into ketosis due to eating a low carbohydrate diet. I didn't even know you can do home tests for this:

https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/ketostix/6000198385598

I thought everyone knew what keto stix were.

Easy way to test.

Matt I`ll PM you later bud.

[loco]

I had never heard of keto sticks before...have any Getbiggers used them? From blood testing I've done, I'm always just a wee bit into ketosis due to eating a low carbohydrate diet. I didn't even know you can do home tests for this:

https://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/ketostix/6000198385598

THE 3 BEST WAYS TO TEST KETONES

URINE STRIPS

Ketone strips only measure excess ketones not utilized by the body and therefore released in urine. It’s a useful and affordable method for those just starting out in the first 3-4 weeks of keto.

However, once you have been in ketosis for a while your body becomes fat-adapted and more efficient in utilizing the ketones produced in your body which can result in false negatives when using ketone strips.

BREATH KETONE METERS

These breath ketone meters are more reliable and accurate than urine tests although they still come second best to the blood meters listed below.

Although the upfront cost is higher than the ketone urine strips, the breath meters can be seen as a one-time purchase that can be reused as many times as you like, making it a good return on investment and an option to consider!

BLOOD KETONE METERS

This method is by far the most accurate, measuring ketone levels in your blood.

Although rather expensive (the meters are relatively cheap but the strips are costly and need to be purchased on an on-going basis), those who are serious about measuring their ketone levels as accurately as possible swear by this method.

Many people also report they can tell they are in ketosis simply by noticing the following signs and symptoms:

keto breathe - a slightly acetone smelling breath is often the first sign you may be in ketosis

increased urination - as you lose weight, fluid loss occurs before weight loss so visiting the toilet regularly becomes a regular event

decreased hunger - as you stop the sugar-insulin roller coaster, hunger begins to diminish and you begin to burn your own fat stores

rapid weight loss - hallelujah! You have turned into a fat burner, not a sugar burner

https://www.ditchthecarbs.com/best-ways-to-test-ketones/

[Humble Narcissist]

I'm hungry just thinking of this.

[Matt]

I thought everyone knew what keto stix were.

Easy way to test.

Matt I`ll PM you later bud.

Hey, thanks wes!!! I would appreciate that. 🙂

It's funny...when I was on an Army tasking in Manitoba in 2002 after the G8 Summit, I learned what fly tape was...lol...a friend working with me was like "How have you never seen fly tape before?"

My only answer was...I guess things are so cold here that we don't have many flies, even in the summer [it's 22°F right now, and we just had 22 inches of snow yesterday!].

As for Kenny from the documentary...looks like he's in a better spot in life, but is still overweight. From two years ago:

[Matt]

THE 3 BEST WAYS TO TEST KETONES

URINE STRIPS

Ketone strips only measure excess ketones not utilized by the body and therefore released in urine. It’s a useful and affordable method for those just starting out in the first 3-4 weeks of keto.

However, once you have been in ketosis for a while your body becomes fat-adapted and more efficient in utilizing the ketones produced in your body which can result in false negatives when using ketone strips.

These sound like they would work for me...as you can see from my pictures, it's not like I'm ultra-lean by any means. I'm just always a touch into ketosis, based on my blood test results, including my most recent one.

So is it safe to say that these strips are accurate for those just a touch into ketosis, but as you get deeper into it, they become less accurate?

[FitnessFrenzy]

I am on a 40 day sausage, cinnamon roll and cobbler fast. So far I have gained 17 pounds.

[Matt]

I'm hungry just thinking of this.

Lol...who does a 40-day water fast? No wonder he still looks to be at least 280-lb, when he was 315 when he filled the documentary when Bill Clinton was still in office...

Early on in the documentary, he starts looking into professional help on his "journey", and the woman he's talking to tells him that a 40-day fast is unhealthy, and would at the very LEAST require medical supervision.

In the BFTO 2002, George Farah said he was in a coma after being shot, and dropped from something like 195-lb to 110-lb, and that if he didn't have muscle, he would have wasted away and possibly died. Basically, his steroid gains saved him.

Barring being in a medically supervised coma out of necessity, who would go on such an extreme weight cut? Bodybuilders and even MMA fighters go on extreme cuts, but not for 40 days...it makes no wonder he didn't keep much of the weight off, if any.

[robcguns]

Hey, thanks wes!!! I would appreciate that. 🙂

It's funny...when I was on an Army tasking in Manitoba in 2002 after the G8 Summit, I learned what fly tape was...lol...a friend working with me was like "How have you never seen fly tape before?"

My only answer was...I guess things are so cold here that we don't have many flies, even in the summer [it's 22°F right now, and we just had 22 inches of snow yesterday!].

As for Kenny from the documentary...looks like he's in a better spot in life, but is still overweight. From two years ago:

22” of snow? Fuck that shit. We are pretty much out of the snow and getting jive weather and couldn’t be more excited.

[Humble Narcissist]

Lol...who does a 40-day water fast? No wonder he still looks to be at least 280-lb, when he was 315 when he filled the documentary when Bill Clinton was still in office...

Early on in the documentary, he starts looking into professional help on his "journey", and the woman he's talking to tells him that a 40-day fast is unhealthy, and would at the very LEAST require medical supervision.

In the BFTO 2002, George Farah said he was in a coma after being shot, and dropped from something like 195-lb to 110-lb, and that if he didn't have muscle, he would have wasted away and possibly died. Basically, his steroid gains saved him.

Barring being in a medically supervised coma out of necessity, who would go on such an extreme weight cut? Bodybuilders and even MMA fighters go on extreme cuts, but not for 40 days...it makes no wonder he didn't keep much of the weight off, if any.

We in the West have a lot of time on our hands.

[Matt]

22” of snow? Fuck that shit. We are pretty much out of the snow and getting jive weather and couldn’t be more excited.

Yep - haha. It's crazy:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/northwestern-ontario-snow-closures-1.6394333

Also, consider: this IS jive weather for this time of year over here!  22°F / -6°C may as well be the tropics for Thunder Bay. 

Definitively nice cool whether where I am, where walking is no problem - while people didn't drive in all that snow until it was cleared if they could avoid it, we routinely go to -40°F at least every second winter, and probably more like 6 or 7 in 10 winters here. 

We even went to -60°F in 2013! 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/thunder-bay-shatters-cold-weather-records-1.2479932

[loco]

So is it safe to say that these strips are accurate for those just a touch into ketosis, but as you get deeper into it, they become less accurate?

Correct, as your body becomes better at using ketones for energy, there will be more ketones in your blood and far less in your urine.

[Marty Champions]

Fasting will demineralize your teeth and rest of body and you lose fat get fired from job because you have no energy

[The Keto Kid]

Every human should fast, it's extremely healthy for you. Especially if you're a bodybuilder, giving you're digestive system a rest from pounding all that food day in and day out, increased growth hormone production, fat burning, detox from toxins. If you do it correctly you'll lose zero muscle. I recommend no longer than 3 days though.

[Humble Narcissist]

Every human should fast, it's extremely healthy for you. Especially if you're a bodybuilder, giving you're digestive system a rest from pounding all that food day in and day out, increased growth hormone production, fat burning, detox from toxins. If you do it correctly you'll lose zero muscle. I recommend no longer than 3 days though.

I recommend no more than 3 meals.

[The Keto Kid]

I recommend no more than 3 meals.

actually 1to 2 meals would be ideal, preferably in a 4 hour eating window.

[loco]

Every human should fast, it's extremely healthy for you. Especially if you're a bodybuilder, giving you're digestive system a rest from pounding all that food day in and day out, increased growth hormone production, fat burning, detox from toxins. If you do it correctly you'll lose zero muscle. I recommend no longer than 3 days though.

I don't force myself to fast, and don't go more than 20 hours without eating.  But I fast naturally since I've been eating very low carb I just don't get hungry for 16 to 20 hours.  I eat one or two meals a day.  I don't fast, I feast.

But the way I've heard MDs and PHDs recommend fasting for autophagy is water fasting for 3 days every 3 months.  My goal is to get to this eventually.

[The Keto Kid]

I don't force myself to fast, and don't go more than 20 hours without eating.  But I fast naturally since I've been eating very low carb I just don't get hungry for 16 to 20 hours.  I eat one or two meals a day.  I don't fast, I feast.

But the way I've heard MDs and PHDs recommend fasting for autophagy is water fasting for 3 days every 3 months.  My goal is to get to this eventually.

You can fast way more often than that, plus you don't have to spend money on food or GH.

[Henda]

This documentary is about a man from Texas named Kenny Saylors, who is morbidly obese man [= BMI of 40+], who is ~5'9" and 315-lb [271-lb would be a BMI of 40]. Kenny's body fat was 53%. His lean body mass was 147-lb.

Apparently he fasted for 40 days on just water [the title says 50 days, but within seven minutes of the documentary, he says he picked 40], under medical supervision, but there have been suggestions online that he faked it:

It's sad that so many people today think EVERYTHING can be done overnight, as is often the case, but is really not the case with weight loss, since it's more about long-term lifestyle changes/practices, than it is about going on a diet.

I thought the documentary was new, and has a release date of 2009 on IMDB...but in one part he calls President Clinton's office, which leads me to believe that it was filmed in 2000.

From the looks of recent pictures of Kenny [the first one below is from 2017, and the next one is more recent] it appears that after filming was complete, he went back to his old habits.

It's no wonder he wasn't able to sustain his weight loss progress, from such an extreme and unsustainable program.

I would love to read Henda's opinion on this.

Haha no problem my friend
After skipping through the video and seeing he only lost 44lbs my opinion is thst he is still a repulsive fat piece of absolute shit and thst he should shut the fuck up about his weight loss till he is of an appropriate and respectable weight and not a disgusting 271lb eyesore who also probably offends the nasal passages of everyone he encounters.

I’m pig bastard sick of hearing stupid fat cunts shouting from the rooftops and expecting to be praised to high heaven every time they lose a few pounds which seems to be what’s expected these days

[loco]

You can fast way more often than that, plus you don't have to spend money on food or GH.

Yes, I can.  But should I and do I really need to?  I don't believe so.  But if it works for you and others, then that's great.

[The Keto Kid]

Yes, I can.  But should I and do I really need to?  I don't believe so.  But if it works for you and others, then that's great.

I feel you. Definitely give it a shot though, at some point you'll see what all the hype is about.

[wes]

Meal one: chicken,salad,water

Meal two: chicken,salad,water

Meal three: chicken,salad,water

Plus walking six X a week.

Fat fuck needs to keep his metabolism working

[Mayday]

44lbs in 40 days and he was 315lbs short guy? Sounds like he may have started eating earlier than the 40 days.

Biggest loser the real big people are still eating yet drop 20lbs+ in the first week as water and shit leave the body.

The best series is ‘Alone’ where they dump people in a place and they have 10 tools and have to survive for as long as possible. The best location is Vancouver Island, always lots more action due to bears. The Arctic one was pretty insane, they finally got a legit Hunter on.

 They all drink water, become less active after the first week due to hunger. They get pulled out once they reach a certain BMI or they make a call to leave.

There was a tall guy 290lbs who went in and I think lasted 30 or so days. He lost 90lbs, looked like an athlete. All the fatties look great losing the weight.

[Hypertrophy]

Eat less, lose weight, eat more, gain weight. That'll be $100 for the technical advice.