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Re: Arizona huh?
« Reply #175 on: April 29, 2024, 03:22:20 PM »
This is you can’t beat me lol

Because FACTS don't matter in your world?  We already knew that.

This is why no one will waste time debating your retarded ass.

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Re: Arizona huh?
« Reply #176 on: May 01, 2024, 11:18:11 PM »
Of course it’s BS…

AUDIO: Attorney Harmeet Dhillon Breaks Down “Fake Charges” Brought by Arizona AG Kris Mayes Against Trump 2020 Alternative Electors with Radio Host Garret Lewis

Conservative attorney and Republican Party official Harmeet Dhillon joined Tucson radio host Garret Lewis’ Afternoon Addiction last week to discuss the latest election interference lawfare against Republicans in Arizona.

Dhillon represents GOP Arizona State Senator Jake Hoffman in fighting the bogus charges brought against 18 individuals by radical left Attorney General Kris Mayes, who stole the 2022 election by 280 votes from Trump Endorsed Abe Hamadeh.

Hamadeh also discussed the sham charges against Trump electors and his ongoing lawsuit contesting the fraudulent election in an exclusive interview with The Gateway Pundit last week.

The Gateway Pundit reported that the still questionably elected Kris Mayes announced felony charges against 18 Trump allies and alternative electors last Wednesday afternoon for the non-crime of questioning the 2020 election and casting electoral votes for Trump. She defended her witch hunt and the curious timing of the indictment – just months before the 2024 general election.

However, the alleged crime is perfectly legal and has legal precedent.

Per Politico:

By December 1960, it was clear Kennedy had won. Only Hawaii’s result remained in doubt. Nixon had prevailed by just 140 votes, according to the initial results, which were certified by the governor. A recount was underway on Dec. 19, 1960, when presidential electors across the nation were required by law to meet and cast their ballots.
Nixon’s Hawaii electors met and cast their three votes in an official ceremony. But nearby, Kennedy’s three elector nominees gathered and signed their own certificates, delivering them to Washington as though Kennedy had won the state.

As was done in Hawaii, Arizona's Trump electors met and cast their votes in case of a successful legal challenge while lawsuits challenging the stolen 2020 election were still ongoing. "That's a protected First Amendment activity by these citizens," said Dhillon.

Recall that the Arizona Attorney General at the time, Mark Brnovich, released a report on his investigation in April 2022, stating that “between 100,000 and 200,000 ballots were transported without a proper chain of custody,” and individuals would be prosecuted for election fraud. However, the weak, lethargic AG never followed through.

Even the election officials in Maricopa County, which accounts for roughly 60% of Arizona's voters, knew the election was rigged with dead voters, ballot harvesting, and shady machine software and admitted that the County’s in-house audit of the 2020 election was “bulsh*t.” Former Maricopa County Supervisor Steve Chucri previously stated that his colleagues lied because they were too scared to do a real audit in conversations while the Arizona 2020 election audit was ongoing.

President Trump was also named in the indictment “Unindicted Coconspirator-1” because he made a phone call about the ballot counting to former governor Doug Ducey.

The charges include nine counts of conspiracy, fraudulent schemes and artifices, fraudulent schemes and practices, and forgery. “Defendants and unindicted coconspirators schemed to prevent the lawful transfer of the presidency to keep Unindicted Coconspirator 1 in office against the will of Arizona’s voters,” the indictment falsely alleges.

Make no mistake; the charges are a warning shot to anyone who may want to challenge the 2024 election and meant to stain the reputations of Trump and Arizona Republicans running in 2024. See the full list of alternative electors and Trump associates facing felony charges in Arizona here.

It sure sounds like the timing of this prosecution was specifically for purposes of trying to affect, in a positive way, Democrats' chances, certainly with respect to the primary in Arizona that's coming up in weeks and with the general election," Dhillon told Garret Lewis.

She continued, "All the information that they needed to bring this frivolous and politically based indictment has been in the hands of these prosecutors in different states, thanks to the January 6 committee investigation in the House and thanks to the likely coordination of all of this between special counsel and the Biden administration literally for years."

Mayes said the quiet part out loud before announcing the grand jury indictment in the latest election interference lawfare, declaring, “We absolutely have to get President Biden reelected.” This means shutting down the so-called election deniers when they shut down the voting centers, remove Republican observers from the counting rooms, and thousands of Joe Biden ballots magically appear.

As The Gateway Pundit reported, even the Associated Press admits, “Charges against Trump’s 2020 ‘fake electors’ are expected to deter a repeat this year.”

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Full interview below:

Lewis: Joining me now because there were 11 people indicted yesterday, one of them is Senator Jake Hoffman. His attorney, Harmeet Dhillon joins me now. What's your reaction to the fact that Kris Mayes admitted on national TV that she'll do, I guess, whatever it takes to get Joe Biden reelected and look at what happened to Jake?

Dhillon: Yeah, well, my reaction is, who's doing the election rigging here? Is it President Trump, or is it President Biden? Because it sure sounds like the timing of this prosecution was specifically for purposes of trying to affect, in a positive way, Democrats' chances, certainly with respect to the primary in Arizona that's coming up in weeks and with the general election because, frankly, all the information that they needed to bring this frivolous and politically based indictment has been in the hands of these prosecutors in different states, thanks to the January 6 committee investigation in the House and thanks to the likely coordination of all of this between special counsel and the Biden administration literally for years. So, the fact that they're bringing this almost four years after the fact is clearly an example of election rigging by the Democrats.

Lewis: To me, it just shows how scared they are because they know what is about to happen, and they can't stop it. Is there anything here at all? All I know is these 11 people signed a piece of paper, that's what they did. They signed a piece of paper, and I don't believe it's illegal. There have been alternate electors that have been used in the 1800s to settle an election, so is there anything here that is actually illegal?

Dhillon: There have been alternative electors used in the 1960s by the Democratic Party. It was suggested in the 2020 election by Democrat activists, including Van Jones and Larry Lessig, to do it in Pennsylvania in the very election for which these citizens got indicted for their work in Arizona. So, you know, briefly, the facts are that they signed as alternate electors to preserve the opportunity in the event that ongoing litigation in Arizona, like there was ongoing litigation in other states where people have been indicted: Nevada, Michigan, and Georgia. In the event to preserve the opportunity, in the event of a successful outcome in court. That's all. That's a protected First Amendment activity by these citizens, and to indict them for that is really outrageous. It will not stand, but the point of the Democrats here is simply to throw sand in the gears of this election.

Lewis: Yeah, it's just to scare people, I think, from ever, you know, wanting to actually say, ‘Hey, maybe something's not right here’ or ‘We're gonna do something about this.’ This is pure tyranny. So, where do you go from here? What is the next step? Is this going to be just challenged, do you have to go to a trial, what happens?

Dhillon: The next step typically in a criminal proceeding is, first of all, they have to serve everybody. And, you know, they just dumped these on the media yesterday, and eventually, they'll serve people. And then, there's typically a threshold process of motions to dismiss the indictment on various grounds, and boy, are there plenty of grounds in this case? So, I don't want to tip our hand, but we'll be doing motion practice like every other defense counsel, I'm sure. And then if there's still a case left after we hopefully, you know, destroy it, if there's still any case left after that, then there'll be a discovery process where the government's obligation is to turn over to the defense all the evidence they have in support of these ridiculous charges. But just to give you a couple of examples, they're being prosecuted for conspiracy, fraud, and forgery. Fraud, throughout the United States and in the western speaking world, requires that somebody had acted in reliance and detriment on the actions that are complained of. Nothing happened here. These people signed a piece of paper. Nobody acted in reliance on the actions in order to change the outcome of an election. The United States Congress did not vote differently. Nobody voted differently as a result of this alternative electors blink. Forgery requires a guilty conscience and intention to fool somebody with your forged document. Again, the Trump campaign and everybody involved here was very out in the open and transparent that these were alternate electors, a contingent plan in the event of a positive outcome in court. Period, full stop. No forgery, no fall, no fraud. And then conspiracy is simply a mush that lazy prosecutors use to try to tie things and people together. This is absolutely laughable and frankly shocked me as a lawyer that a so-called Attorney General, who, by the way, I think is not the legitimate Attorney General of Arizona, concocted. So, we feel very strongly about this. Jake is a great client, he is a public servant in your state, and we are looking forward to going to court to clear him of the fake charges.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/04/listen-state-sen-jake-hoffman-attorney-harmeet-dhillon/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=listen-state-sen-jake-hoffman-attorney-harmeet-dhillon&fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaYvvDkmtd8HNIWaG8NTcTAZN3nMnobLhnUO9t1CVQtMjUUn7suZIMtehvY_aem_ATaSnmNduZLXB68dCzZsY7-nu-D7d-g_PbGtQSrIuy4jfevdJrnNdHk5vJR5h1wr4HPx9KhGwyMDH8QKMCmqBqF1

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Re: Arizona huh?
« Reply #177 on: May 02, 2024, 05:48:21 AM »
Special Olympics.. incapable of learning..

You know he didn't read all that.  Let alone could understand it if anyone read it to him.

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Re: Arizona huh?
« Reply #178 on: May 02, 2024, 09:00:33 AM »
You know he didn't read all that.  Let alone could understand it if anyone read it to him.

Let find out. You three know what to do.

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Re: Arizona huh?
« Reply #179 on: May 02, 2024, 09:11:46 AM »
Let find out. You three know what to do.

Yeah, we know what to do.  Continue to live in a factual reality.  Unlike you.

You can't even prove your own "debunked" claim here while having plenty of time to research it.  You couldn't do it any better on the fly.

"No one is debating a 6 year old."

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Re: Arizona huh?
« Reply #180 on: May 02, 2024, 09:18:33 AM »
Yeah, we know what to do.  Continue to live in a factual reality.  Unlike you.

You can't even prove your own "debunked" claim here while having plenty of time to research it.  You couldn't do it any better on the fly.

"No one is debating a 6 year old."

Let’s go, coward

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Re: Arizona huh?
« Reply #181 on: May 02, 2024, 12:17:36 PM »
Let’s go, coward

Get factual, retard. 

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Re: Arizona huh?
« Reply #182 on: May 03, 2024, 07:07:42 AM »
So will we be seeing proof of this being "debunked" today?  Or not?   Smart money is on the "or not" odds.

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Re: Arizona huh?
« Reply #183 on: May 03, 2024, 08:58:31 AM »
Special Olympics.. incapable of learning..

Back for your 2am ass beating

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Re: Arizona huh?
« Reply #184 on: May 03, 2024, 09:56:40 AM »
So will we be seeing proof of this being "debunked" today?  Or not?   Smart money is on the "or not" odds.

No explanation or proof I see.

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Re: Arizona huh?
« Reply #185 on: May 03, 2024, 08:05:37 PM »
No explanation or proof I see.

You know what to do, coward

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Re: Arizona huh?
« Reply #186 on: May 04, 2024, 07:17:47 AM »
You know what to do, coward

Continue to wait for you to provide proof of your claim?

Or just accept the fact that you are avoiding your own statement as usual because it is completely retarded?  Like you.

Another example (as if we needed anymore) of why no one is going to debate an idiot.  You can't even back your own posts up.

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Re: Arizona huh?
« Reply #187 on: May 06, 2024, 01:06:28 PM »
Maybe this week?  Any explanation or proof of that "debunking"?

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Re: Arizona huh?
« Reply #188 on: May 06, 2024, 01:14:07 PM »
Maybe this week?  Any explanation or proof of that "debunking"?

Maybe he does not know the definition of debunking.  ;)

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Re: Arizona huh?
« Reply #189 on: May 06, 2024, 02:57:53 PM »
Maybe he does not know the definition of debunking.  ;)

Or the definition of "facts".


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Re: Arizona huh?
« Reply #190 on: May 06, 2024, 05:21:30 PM »
Or the definition of "facts".

And Coach is unable to back up his claims with proof. But then, his definition of proof is off kilter.

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Re: Arizona huh?
« Reply #191 on: May 07, 2024, 06:41:49 AM »
And Coach is unable to back up his claims with proof. But then, his definition of proof is off kilter.

It's funny actually.  I posted links to the State AG site where the charges were actually listed.  The names of the people being charged.   The felonies they were being charged with.  And also audio/video/print of the AG herself specifically stating these people were being charged in this investigation.

Qoach runs on and says there are no charges and there is no investigation.  That it has all been "debunked" previously.   :D :D :D :D

Now he is avoiding this subject completely.   :D :D :D :D 

Just like the rest of the Trumpturds are avoiding any and all mentions/postings of the REAL election fraud and interference.  The lawsuits,  the lies, the "find me some votes" begging, the fake electors in 4 states, etc...   By pretending it doesn't exist, they think no one else notices it either. 

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Re: Arizona huh?
« Reply #192 on: May 07, 2024, 11:39:42 PM »
It's funny actually.  I posted links to the State AG site where the charges were actually listed.  The names of the people being charged.   The felonies they were being charged with.  And also audio/video/print of the AG herself specifically stating these people were being charged in this investigation.

Qoach runs on and says there are no charges and there is no investigation.  That it has all been "debunked" previously.   :D :D :D :D

Now he is avoiding this subject completely.   :D :D :D :D 

Just like the rest of the Trumpturds are avoiding any and all mentions/postings of the REAL election fraud and interference.  The lawsuits,  the lies, the "find me some votes" begging, the fake electors in 4 states, etc...   By pretending it doesn't exist, they think no one else notices it either.

On one hand it's entertaining. On the other, it's sad we have adults at this level of brain functioning. No wonder Trump, a celebrity host of a fictional reality TV show was elected president inspite of his history. I'll just leave it at that.

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Re: Arizona huh?
« Reply #193 on: May 08, 2024, 01:17:01 AM »
On one hand it's entertaining. On the other, it's sad we have adults at this level of brain functioning. No wonder Trump, a celebrity host of a fictional reality TV show was elected president inspite of his history. I'll just leave it at that.

Yeah it's very entertaining

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« Reply #194 on: May 08, 2024, 06:56:54 AM »
Yeah it's very entertaining

Vote for Trump or

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Re: Arizona huh?
« Reply #195 on: May 15, 2024, 01:17:12 PM »
The subject of fake electors must be like sunlight on vampires to the Trumpturds.  No one wants to talk about REAL election fraud.   :-*

Rudy sure is scared of proving his "innocence" with that "evidence" he claims he has isn't he?  Why, it's almost like it doesn't even exist.    :D
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Arizona fake electors: Rudy Giuliani taunts prosecutors, Boris Epshteyn asks for delay
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Arizona+fake+electors%3A+Rudy+Giuliani+taunts+prosecutors%2C+Boris+Epshteyn+asks+for+delay

The earliest court hearings in Attorney General Kris Mayes' criminal case alleging a plot to subvert the result of the 2020 presidential election may be missing two high-profile allies of former President Donald Trump.

Three weeks after the indictment was issued by a grand jury, the Arizona Attorney General's Office has been unable to serve former Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani notice that he must appear in court May 21.

The former mayor of New York City is one of 18 people charged with nine felony counts in Arizona, and to date, his name has not been formally released by prosecutors.

Meanwhile, Trump adviser Boris Epshteyn's lawyer asked to delay his client's first court appearance until June, because Epshteyn is "advising in a court proceeding ongoing in another state" through May, court documents say.

Epshteyn has been repeatedly spotted in the New York City courtroom where Trump is on trial over charges he falsified business records. The first criminal trial of a former president alleges Trump sought to hide payments and other efforts to prevent stories of sexual encounters with women from becoming public during his 2016 campaign.

Epshteyn's lawyer did not respond to a call or email seeking comment Tuesday.

Agents from Mayes' office spent two days in New York City trying to serve Giuliani notice of the charges against him, according to Mayes spokesperson Richie Taylor. The doorman at the building confirmed he lived there, but would not contact him on the agents' behalf, Taylor said. The office called multiple phone numbers for Giuliani, and sent the summons via certified mail, with no luck.

Taylor said what comes next is to be determined.

"It will be up to the court to decide whether this merits a continuation for the defendant or if other methods need to be taken," Taylor said.

Typically defendants in white-collar cases are cooperative and accept the summons, said Mark Kokanovich, a former federal prosecutor who now practices law at the firm Ballard Spahr. The alternatives are a public notification, or potentially, an arrest warrant, he said.

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Re: Arizona huh?
« Reply #196 on: May 15, 2024, 06:39:46 PM »
On one hand it's entertaining. On the other, it's sad we have adults at this level of brain functioning. No wonder Trump, a celebrity host of a fictional reality TV show was elected president inspite of his history. I'll just leave it at that.

Trump idolatry.


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« Reply #197 on: May 15, 2024, 07:04:54 PM »
The subject of fake electors must be like sunlight on vampires to the Trumpturds.  No one wants to talk about REAL election fraud.   :-*

Rudy sure is scared of proving his "innocence" with that "evidence" he claims he has isn't he?  Why, it's almost like it doesn't even exist.    :D
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Arizona fake electors: Rudy Giuliani taunts prosecutors, Boris Epshteyn asks for delay
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Arizona+fake+electors%3A+Rudy+Giuliani+taunts+prosecutors%2C+Boris+Epshteyn+asks+for+delay

The earliest court hearings in Attorney General Kris Mayes' criminal case alleging a plot to subvert the result of the 2020 presidential election may be missing two high-profile allies of former President Donald Trump.

Three weeks after the indictment was issued by a grand jury, the Arizona Attorney General's Office has been unable to serve former Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani notice that he must appear in court May 21.

The former mayor of New York City is one of 18 people charged with nine felony counts in Arizona, and to date, his name has not been formally released by prosecutors.

Meanwhile, Trump adviser Boris Epshteyn's lawyer asked to delay his client's first court appearance until June, because Epshteyn is "advising in a court proceeding ongoing in another state" through May, court documents say.

Epshteyn has been repeatedly spotted in the New York City courtroom where Trump is on trial over charges he falsified business records. The first criminal trial of a former president alleges Trump sought to hide payments and other efforts to prevent stories of sexual encounters with women from becoming public during his 2016 campaign.

Epshteyn's lawyer did not respond to a call or email seeking comment Tuesday.

Agents from Mayes' office spent two days in New York City trying to serve Giuliani notice of the charges against him, according to Mayes spokesperson Richie Taylor. The doorman at the building confirmed he lived there, but would not contact him on the agents' behalf, Taylor said. The office called multiple phone numbers for Giuliani, and sent the summons via certified mail, with no luck.

Taylor said what comes next is to be determined.

"It will be up to the court to decide whether this merits a continuation for the defendant or if other methods need to be taken," Taylor said.

Typically defendants in white-collar cases are cooperative and accept the summons, said Mark Kokanovich, a former federal prosecutor who now practices law at the firm Ballard Spahr. The alternatives are a public notification, or potentially, an arrest warrant, he said.

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Re: Arizona huh?
« Reply #198 on: May 17, 2024, 06:15:18 AM »
^^^. Still unable to support or prove his “debunked” claims. 

To the surprise of no one. 

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Re: Arizona huh?
« Reply #199 on: May 17, 2024, 02:14:26 PM »
^^^. Still unable to support or prove his “debunked” claims. 

To the surprise of no one.

When I was ten years old, I went to YMCA camp in Big Bear, CA. Not having ever slept in a bunk bed, I chose one of the upper bunks. Sometime during the night, I rolled over and off the bunk falling on to the concrete floor. The term 'debunked' reminded me of this experience. Fortunately, I was not hurt in the fall... just a little embarrassed. :-[