Fentanyl Problem

[Taffin]

Absolutely agree - and there are unintended consequences to pushing things further underground.  In the UK we've had large increases in deaths due to whatever the fuck synthetic cannabis is - junkies, prisoners and homeless people smoking things called Spice and Mamba, then shuffling into darkness

And it can only be a matter of time before this mixing of fentanyl with pill and coke, etc. will reach over here and start dropping party-goers and the middle-classes - then we might hear some noise about it

I feel like I posted this in another thread somewhere?  So apologies if I'm repeating myself here

But in one of those weird coincidences in life, on Saturday I happened to bump into someone who a) clearly seemed to know what he was talking about, and b) drove some sort of Bentley.  So you can draw your own conclusions    And he was quick to point out to me that I've been out of the loop far too long.  Apparently, fentanyl has been 'on the UK menu' for some time now - either the black market powder form, or as stolen lollipops...

[Edit: and not because of any shortage of heroin or other pills, he said some people ask for it specifically and there was plenty 'about']


So we'll watch this space....

[bhank]

You don't have a clue as usual. People buying coke don't want fent in it. They will die. They're not opiate addicts who have a tolerance and can handle fent

Dealers would not put fent in coke if it was not requested why do people mix opiates and cocaine it’s called a speed balk and people have been doing it for decades

[LurkerNoMore]

Dealers would not put fent in coke if it was not requested why do people mix opiates and cocaine it’s called a speed balk and people have been doing it for decades

It seems like they are wasting a high from either drug.  Coke revs you up (people say) so why take a downer with it?

[illuminati]

Lace it with rat poison

Yep - only some would like it & no doubt get addicted to it .

It strongly appears that humans we love drugs be it Coffee, alcohol, cigarettes, weed, cocaine, heroin ,
Etc etc , the seeds of self destruction are clearly in many.

Take all the drugs you want , just don't complain when you fuck yourself up.
My issue is all the behaviour side affects that impact on others.

Maybe make these drugs much more potent so it takes then out & they can meet their maker.

[bhank]

https://amp.theguardian.com/science/2023/apr/07/bronze-age-people-hallucinogenic-drugs-menorca-study

Again this is nothing new

[GymnJuice]

There will always be plenty of drugs available for whoever wants then simple supply and demand nothing has changed we used to blame China for Opium then we invaded when they banned it to keep the trade going nothing has changed

Hanky kicking the worldwide historical knowledge to his audience. This is why your fan club is internationale.

[residue]

yup
I have no sympathy for drug users,...its not a tough equation--dont do drugs you wont die
I understand its tough for those who were medically prescribed to kick it, but if a person just does drugs to try them or fit in or whatever, then fuck em, die, world is better off without those morons

you're on a board dedicated to taking bathtub test.. telling people not to do drugs?

[LurkerNoMore]

Amazing.  This thread reached 5 pages without ESF in here telling us how he shot up a half gallon of this stuff one night at urinal and woke up with dead cartel hookers in his bed.

[residue]

55 percent of all workers are white collar workers.  You're saying 55 percent of the working population has done cocaine?

i dont know how many people go through the hundreds of tons of cocaine smuggled into america every year. 
Maybe you're right, 55 seems like a lot. But in every field i've ever worked in finance, tech and fintech, at every level starting at 1st year analyst all the way up to c-suite, everyone's got coke, every back office worker does coke.

[Van_Bilderass]

It seems like they are wasting a high from either drug.  Coke revs you up (people say) so why take a downer with it?

Nah I don't think it works quite like that, they can compliment each other very nicely. For one, you're getting even more dopamine. IBut I think bhank is right, fent wouldn't intentionally be put in coke if not requested. Even then, I don't know how it would be done, seems pretty much  impossible to me.

You could do a semi legal speedball by mixing a stimulant, like dmaa, with kratom and/or phenibut. I used Vyvance for the stim so it isn't legal. Phenibut with a stim is very nice, any anxiety from the stim goes away, and stim euphoria increases. And you get more and more dopamine with these combos.

[BB]

This guy, who is one of the world experts on the topic, is firmly in the bad mixing procedure and Speedball/Goofball co-use camp of thought -

https://twitter.com/DanCiccarone/status/1637226011262881792?cxt=HHwWgMDUpcCYzLgtAAAA .

Anyway, the problem is getting worse depending on area at least here in the States. New York is up around 8%+ of cocaine samples are tainted with fent, Florida is similar, Ohio is around 13-14%.

Heroin and fake pills are now in the low-mid 40% range according to some DEA and CDC stuff I read last night.

[LurkerNoMore]

Nah I don't think it works quite like that, they can compliment each other very nicely. For one, you're getting even more dopamine. IBut I think bhank is right, fent wouldn't intentionally be put in coke if not requested. Even then, I don't know how it would be done, seems pretty much  impossible to me.

You could do a semi legal speedball by mixing a stimulant, like dmaa, with kratom and/or phenibut. I used Vyvance for the stim so it isn't legal. Phenibut with a stim is very nice, any anxiety from the stim goes away, and stim euphoria increases. And you get more and more dopamine with these combos.

I tried Vyvnase a couple of times.  I normally open the capsule, wet my finger and get about 5-6 "licks" from each capsule.  That is enough to wire me up all day.  I don't see how some people take a whole capsule.  And some are on two capsules per day.  I can only imagine they are vibrating enough to travel through time and space.

I find 1/4th tab of provigil (modafinil) works perfect the no crash the one or two times a month I use it.

[ChristopherA]

I tried Vyvnase a couple of times.  I normally open the capsule, wet my finger and get about 5-6 "licks" from each capsule.  That is enough to wire me up all day.  I don't see how some people take a whole capsule.  And some are on two capsules per day.  I can only imagine they are vibrating enough to travel through time and space.

I find 1/4th tab of provigil (modafinil) works perfect the no crash the one or two times a month I use it.

You just said earlier in the thread you've only tried pot.

[bhank]

Cannabis is the true medicine the rest do that stuff is just bad for you

[Van_Bilderass]

I tried Vyvnase a couple of times.  I normally open the capsule, wet my finger and get about 5-6 "licks" from each capsule.  That is enough to wire me up all day.  I don't see how some people take a whole capsule.  And some are on two capsules per day.  I can only imagine they are vibrating enough to travel through time and space.

I find 1/4th tab of provigil (modafinil) works perfect the no crash the one or two times a month I use it.

My bottles say Vyvance "Adult" and it's a 70mg capsule but only like 20mg is actual amphetamine. I use one third or one half of a capsule at a time, the whole cap is a bit too much oftentimes.

I suspect the 70mg is the max dose but I know that rarely some docs have prescribed more. One doc was investigated for overprescribing but he was defiant, "don't get involved in my practises, I'm a professor of psychiatry, believe me you don't want my clients running loose on the street, I'm the expert." He was helping criminals but in his view he was only pacifying them as they tend to have ADHD etc.

[Van_Bilderass]

This guy, who is one of the world experts on the topic, is firmly in the bad mixing procedure and Speedball/Goofball co-use camp of thought -

https://twitter.com/DanCiccarone/status/1637226011262881792?cxt=HHwWgMDUpcCYzLgtAAAA .

Anyway, the problem is getting worse depending on area at least here in the States. New York is up around 8%+ of cocaine samples are tainted with fent, Florida is similar, Ohio is around 13-14%.

Heroin and fake pills are now in the low-mid 40% range according to some DEA and CDC stuff I read last night.

Thanks.

I'm on two of those off-label treatment drugs lol. Mirtazapine and Bupropion. The bupropion is interesting in that it makes nicotine work less. But instead of stopping my nicotine use I instinctively increased my consumption by 2-3x to get the effect lol.

[LurkerNoMore]

You just said earlier in the thread you've only tried pot.

I am talking about rec drugs.  The shit you buy on the streets.  I got a sample of Vyvnase back in 2010 and then asked my doc for provigil in 2011 which was 60 tabs, that I still have about 26 left.

I have never tried :

Coke
Crack
Herion
Fentanyl
Kratom
Valium
Oxy
Percs
Vics
Benzos
GHB
Mushrooms
X
PCP
mescaline

[LurkerNoMore]

My bottles say Vyvance "Adult" and it's a 70mg capsule but only like 20mg is actual amphetamine. I use one third or one half of a capsule at a time, the whole cap is a bit too much oftentimes.

I suspect the 70mg is the max dose but I know that rarely some docs have prescribed more. One doc was investigated for overprescribing but he was defiant, "don't get involved in my practises, I'm a professor of psychiatry, believe me you don't want my clients running loose on the street, I'm the expert." He was helping criminals but in his view he was only pacifying them as they tend to have ADHD etc.

These were a yellow/green colorish capsule.  Whatever mg that was.  This was back when it had only been out for a short while (couple of years I think), and was supposed to be more competitive with Focalin (sp?) as opposed to competing with Adderall.  They had a 10 trial pack at the time.  He game me this because he said it was better than the others because you don't lose your appetite or sex drive.  (not sure if that is true)  I never finished it.  I am very sensitive to stims.  Right now I buy 4 Bangs for $6 (or Rockstar whichever is on sale at the moment) and drink 1/3 in the morning with breakfast.  That is all I need.

[joswift]

I am talking about rec drugs.  The shit you buy on the streets.  I got a sample of Vyvnase back in 2010 and then asked my doc for provigil in 2011 which was 60 tabs, that I still have about 26 left.

I have never tried :

Coke
Crack
Herion
Fentanyl
Kratom
Valium
Oxy
Percs
Vics
Benzos
GHB
Mushrooms
X
PCP
mescaline

I have not tried 5 of those.

[LurkerNoMore]

I have not tried 5 of those.

And what was that drug over in Europe that people were using that caused parts of their bodies to start rotting?

[ROBOAK]

And what was that drug over in Europe that people were using that caused parts of their bodies to start rotting?

Krocodil

[Taffin]

And what was that drug over in Europe that people were using that caused parts of their bodies to start rotting?

I think you might mean Desomorphine aka 'Krokodil'?

http://theconversation.com/the-rise-and-fall-of-russias-flesh-eating-drug-krokodil-31736

[joswift]

And what was that drug over in Europe that people were using that caused parts of their bodies to start rotting?

Mc Donalds

[illuminati]

i dont know how many people go through the hundreds of tons of cocaine smuggled into america every year. 
Maybe you're right, 55 seems like a lot. But in every field i've ever worked in finance, tech and fintech, at every level starting at 1st year analyst all the way up to c-suite, everyone's got coke, every back office worker does coke.

Damn !! Thats quite eye opening its that rife in those jobs .

So many of all ages use it.

[LurkerNoMore]

Krocodil

I think you might mean Desomorphine aka 'Krokodil'?

http://theconversation.com/the-rise-and-fall-of-russias-flesh-eating-drug-krokodil-31736

Yeah, that's the one.