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Re: Samir Bannout REPLICA GH
« Reply #50 on: April 22, 2022, 03:24:03 AM »
Sleep specialist talks about coffee and REM sleep

You keep assuming it's one size fits all.

I can drink coffee late in the evening and fall sleep and sleep without any issues.

just go 3 days without caffeine and experience the detox, that's enough evidence to know its not good for you, extreme headaches, lethargy, muscle pain, depression, anxiety, irritability, tremors, etc. It takes some people up to a year to fully recover their energy levels from quitting caffeine. It took me about 10 days 5 were pure hell, never again.

Again my experience is difference to yours. If I go for an extended period without caffeine, I'll have a low grade headache that lasts 24 hours and then I'm pretty much back to normal.

I'm no superhuman though. For example I can't eat more than 4 eggs a day without feeling torn up inside, but I don't go around telling everyone to ditch the eggs  and watch their gains go through the roof. You know cos one size doesn't fit all.


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Re: Samir Bannout REPLICA GH
« Reply #51 on: April 22, 2022, 03:38:18 AM »
You keep assuming it's one size fits all.

I can drink coffee late in the evening and fall sleep and sleep without any issues.

Again my experience is difference to yours. If I go for an extended period without caffeine, I'll have a low grade headache that lasts 24 hours and then I'm pretty much back to normal.

I'm no superhuman though. For example I can't eat more than 4 eggs a day without feeling torn up inside, but I don't go around telling everyone to ditch the eggs  and watch their gains go through the roof. You know cos one size doesn't fit all.


Do your thing man, I'm not here to persuade you to do anything. The egg is tearing you up because the whites, a lot of people have histamine reactions to egg whites, ditch the whites and do yolks only, I guarantee you'll have no digestive issues.

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Re: Samir Bannout REPLICA GH
« Reply #52 on: April 22, 2022, 03:45:15 AM »
One cup of coffee or caffeine in the morning will likely have zero impact on someone’s health.
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« Reply #53 on: April 22, 2022, 03:52:26 AM »
Or you could just eat less everyday

Glad you said it!

I've been on a low calorie diet all my life. In 2004, I read studies on the benefits of caloric restriction on mice, specifically in terms of organ integrity, hair, and skin benefits, as well as strongly correlated data showing that caloric restriction is probably THE biggest thing super-centenarians [those who live to 110 or older] have in common.

Since then, I've never been able to bring myself to bulk like they do in the bodybuilding world. I eat no more than 1,800 calories a day. Usually 1,200 to 1,500. Sometimes I go as low as 800, which is the lowest we can eat while still getting all of our required nutrients, and RARELY will I go as low as 600, or fast completely.

If the primary benefit of fasting is simply to eat fewer calories, this just isn't a benefit I need, since I already eat light.

That said, our ancestors likely went through prolonged periods of fasting between successful hunting attempts.

I should also point out - I fart four times a week MAX. Why? Well - try eating 1,300 calories daily with under 100g of carbohydrates a day, and only taken from 13 foods, almost all of which are one-ingredient whole foods. I tax my digestive system so little, that I suspect that is the main reason I barely ever have gas.

But until someone tells me why a person like me who doesn't eat so much as chocolate bar in a month needs to fast, I simply don't think I need it.

Exercise does all those things too and for some it's far more enjoyable than fasting

Yeah I agree everyone needs to do their own thing, but you seem to approach it from the view that there is only one thing that works.  If you've got more serious issues then you'd be better off on a restrictive diet, but not everyone has issues with carbs, overeating, dieting, digestive problems etc.

I guarantee there are loads of people on here that have tried every diet under the sun and the majority will say the same thing. There is no magic pill (diet) It's more a case of avoiding certain types of foods (processed and sugar ladened) and drinks and avoiding certain bad habits.

My thoughts exactly.

All anyone needs to do to be healthy [genetic predispositions aside] is eat a healthy diet, within specific ranges for total overall calories as well as for individual macronutrients.

I will be switching to Basmati rice from white rice as you suggested, but I'm not expecting a magic bullet.

The only magic bullet is to be consistent.

I'm trying to be in shape - not compete in a bodybuilding contest. Training for that look is different, and I understand that. But the average person simply wanting to be in shape doesn't need to apply any gimmick - just exercise, and stop eating like shit.

This isn't a conspiracy. The only secret is being consistent about it. And that's where the overwhelming majority of the population fails.

I resent diet coaches who try to sell magic fixes. It's bullshit.

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« Reply #54 on: April 22, 2022, 04:04:26 AM »
Glad you said it!

I've been on a low calorie diet all my life. In 2004, I read studies on the benefits of caloric restriction on mice, specifically in terms of organ integrity, hair, and skin benefits, as well as strongly correlated data showing that caloric restriction is probably THE biggest thing super-centenarians [those who live to 110 or older] have in common.

Since then, I've never been able to bring myself to bulk like they do in the bodybuilding world. I eat no more than 1,800 calories a day. Usually 1,200 to 1,500. Sometimes I go as low as 800, which is the lowest we can eat while still getting all of our required nutrients, and RARELY will I go as low as 600, or fast completely.

If the primary benefit of fasting is simply to eat fewer calories, this just isn't a benefit I need, since I already eat light.

That said, our ancestors likely went through prolonged periods of fasting between successful hunting attempts.

I should also point out - I fart four times a week MAX. Why? Well - try eating 1,300 calories daily with under 100g of carbohydrates a day, and only taken from 13 foods, almost all of which are one-ingredient whole foods. I tax my digestive system so little, that I suspect that is the main reason I barely ever have gas.

But until someone tells me why a person like me who doesn't eat so much as chocolate bar in a month needs to fast, I simply don't think I need it.

My thoughts exactly.

All anyone needs to do to be healthy [genetic predispositions aside] is eat a healthy diet, within specific ranges for total overall calories as well as for individual macronutrients.

I will be switching to Basmati rice from white rice as you suggested, but I'm not expecting a magic bullet.

The only magic bullet is to be consistent.

I'm trying to be in shape - not compete in a bodybuilding contest. Training for that look is different, and I understand that. But the average person simply wanting to be in shape doesn't need to apply any gimmick - just exercise, and stop eating like shit.

This isn't a conspiracy. The only secret is being consistent about it. And that's where the overwhelming majority of the population fails.

I resent diet coaches who try to sell magic fixes. It's bullshit.
I'm not trying to be healthy, my goal is to be optimal. Do what you believe works for you. Just shedding light on things that we can do to bio-hack, I just know the things I've implemented over the past 8 months have completely elevated my well being, physique, performance  recovery, strength, energy, muscle building, muscle fullness, endurance, fat burning, digestive health, work performance, sex life, skin, hair, appearance all vastly improved. All by eating just steak, eggs, beef liver, raw milk, and fasting 2-3 days a week.

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« Reply #55 on: April 22, 2022, 04:11:29 AM »
in order to do that you'd have to put 2 identical twins on the same diet, activity and everything else except for caffeinated drinks. In a controlled environment over the years . Everything else is just speculation.

Let’s disregard every study not using identical twins….

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« Reply #56 on: April 22, 2022, 04:13:18 AM »
Let’s disregard every study not using identical twins….

no we just need to disregard every claim thats made about an individual product which excludes all other factors

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« Reply #57 on: April 22, 2022, 04:17:35 AM »
just go 3 days without caffeine and experience the detox, that's enough evidence to know its not good for you, extreme headaches, lethargy, muscle pain, depression, anxiety, irritability, tremors, etc. It takes some people up to a year to fully recover their energy levels from quitting caffeine. It took me about 10 days 5 were pure hell, never again.

Wait, are we talking caffeine or coffee? I partly agree with you on the caffeine part. I’ve been trying to take it more sparingly and actually am on day 3 of no caffeine right now. I hate having to rely on something but also liked the feeing of getting amped up once in a while. I’ve definitely noticed better sleep when I’ve gone off for weeks and feel a little anxious if I have a drink with 300mg of it. At minimum, I try not to go back to back days consuming it and have 200mg or less.

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« Reply #58 on: April 22, 2022, 04:18:00 AM »
I'm not trying to be healthy, my goal is to be optimal. Do what you believe works for you. Just shedding light on things that we can do to bio-hack, I just know the things I've implemented over the past 8 months have completely elevated my well being, physique, performance  recovery, strength, energy, muscle building, muscle fullness, endurance, fat burning, digestive health, work performance, sex life, skin, hair, appearance all vastly improved. All by eating just steak, eggs, beef liver, raw milk, and fasting 2-3 days a week.

Specifically how is fasting going to help a person like me who is already in excellent physical health and shape compared to 99% of the population?

Are we talking about a 5% increase in growth hormone here? Meanwhile, bodybuilders take, what, 10-100 times the amount they naturally produce?

If I wanted a hormonal boost, I'd take steroids.

But this was the funniest part of this thread to me:

like I said,  do your thing. I eat 3,000 calories a day, by fasting 2 days a week I put myself in a 6,000 calorie deficit in which I don't have to induce by doing tons of cardio and just tiring out my physique and central nervous system for that matter, all the while healing my body through increased stem cell production, gh production, autagraphy, fat burning (ketosis).

Or you could just eat less everyday

^ LMAO, no shit.

You eat 3,000 calories a day and fast two days a week? Your average daily caloric intake is still around 2,200, which is almost double mine. Certainly 50% higher than mine.

If you eat 3,000 calories daily, I can see why fasting has helped you. Since I have such a small appetite, I don't need that though.

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Re: Samir Bannout REPLICA GH
« Reply #59 on: April 22, 2022, 04:28:52 AM »
I'm not trying to be healthy, my goal is to be optimal. Do what you believe works for you. Just shedding light on things that we can do to bio-hack, I just know the things I've implemented over the past 8 months have completely elevated my well being, physique, performance  recovery, strength, energy, muscle building, muscle fullness, endurance, fat burning, digestive health, work performance, sex life, skin, hair, appearance all vastly improved. All by eating just steak, eggs, beef liver, raw milk, and fasting 2-3 days a week.

That all sounds fine.

So you eat a typical whole foods healthy diet more or less.

That's fine.

I'm not sure if I really understand the point of fasting though - how does it apply to a person like me who has a naturally tiny appetite, and already eats a perfect diet?

I can think of what thing that made sense to me:

Georges St-Pierre said that by training and fighting when he was hungry, your body is in a sort of survival mode, and therefore, you are able to sort of maximize performance.

That made sense to me.

Same state learning/studying and testing makes sense too. I generally always train hungry and compete hungry [strength contests].

That being said, I am interested in trying carb loading soon - but I can probably accomplish that by eating carbohydrates 2-3 hours prior to a training session. I've found that oats works better than rice for that [if anyone here knows - please let me know how to carb load properly].

It also makes sense to eat liver and other organ meats, given how dense they are in nutrients.

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Re: Samir Bannout REPLICA GH
« Reply #60 on: April 22, 2022, 04:31:06 AM »
just go 3 days without caffeine and experience the detox, that's enough evidence to know its not good for you, extreme headaches, lethargy, muscle pain, depression, anxiety, irritability, tremors, etc. It takes some people up to a year to fully recover their energy levels from quitting caffeine. It took me about 10 days 5 were pure hell, never again.
Dude gimme a break. It's caffeine not heroin. You have no clue what a real detox is

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« Reply #61 on: April 22, 2022, 04:45:36 AM »
Dude gimme a break. It's caffeine not heroin. You have no clue what a real detox is

 ;D

I'm intrigued by those pushing magic bullets. As if some individual food or other item we've been consuming for centuries could somehow be the cause of our woes.

I was probably drinking the equivalent of 2-3 large coffees daily for all of 2017 [I was just drinking ONE coffee, but apparatus it was 2-3x as caffeinated as most other individual of cups], and by January of 2017, I decided to quit coffee.

For the first ten days, I was so tired, it was shocking - I thought "I can't believe this is how people feel without coffee", but pushed through it, because that is what I wanted.

By January 11th, I woke up more refreshed than ever before, and that's when I realized I was going through caffeine withdrawal.

Caffeine is powerful, to be sure, but comments that it is seriously unhealthy in any way don't seem correct to me.

Also, we need to distinguish coffee from energy drinks, pre-workout powders, etc.

COFFEE, I would even say is HEALTHY. The other various caffeinated products may not be, as they also contain other ingredients that may not be good for us.

Regarding coffee being unhealthy - are we talking one cup a day, or 2-3-4-5+? I'm sure there's a difference between the two.

I think the recommended daily max for adult men is 400mg. So the guideline I follow for myself is to generally not exceed that.

If we're allowed 400mg DAILY, could it really be that bad to have 200mg daily? In fact, if I'm not mistaken, pregnant women are allowed 200mg daily.

So it couldn't be that bad...could it?

I have heard that coffee companies fund some of the research. I have no idea if that is true that.

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Re: Samir Bannout REPLICA GH
« Reply #62 on: April 22, 2022, 06:08:49 AM »
just go 3 days without caffeine and experience the detox, that's enough evidence to know its not good for you, extreme headaches, lethargy, muscle pain, depression, anxiety, irritability, tremors, etc. It takes some people up to a year to fully recover their energy levels from quitting caffeine. It took me about 10 days 5 were pure hell, never again.

If you stop all at once its pretty brutal. Like anything else though its much easier if you taper off. At different times Ive used energy drinks/pre workouts/ coffee all in the same day. I worked graveyard shift for years.

It's fairly easy to just taper down and use less and less each week until your good. Ive done it several times but ive also crept back up too several times.

I wouldn't even try to stop all at once. That would be fucking misery.

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« Reply #63 on: April 22, 2022, 06:21:55 AM »
Coffee is good for you (in moderation)

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Re: Samir Bannout REPLICA GH
« Reply #64 on: April 22, 2022, 06:39:15 AM »
not eating causes zits
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Re: Samir Bannout REPLICA GH
« Reply #65 on: April 22, 2022, 06:43:39 AM »
Coffee is the single greatest source of antioxidants in the western diet.  Says more about the poor quality of our diet, but it’s quite nutritious. 

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« Reply #66 on: April 22, 2022, 08:11:11 AM »
not eating causes zits
thats your body detoxing my friend.

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Re: Samir Bannout REPLICA GH
« Reply #67 on: April 22, 2022, 08:56:35 PM »
thats your body detoxing my friend.

How will fasting help me, when I already eat a healthy, low calorie diet?

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« Reply #68 on: April 23, 2022, 03:42:19 PM »
How will fasting help me, when I already eat a healthy, low calorie diet?
Improved stem cell production, growth hormone production, immune system strengthening, autagraphy (cell regeneration), lower inflammation, fat burning, digestive health.


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« Reply #69 on: April 23, 2022, 04:16:26 PM »
Improved stem cell production, growth hormone production, immune system strengthening, autagraphy (cell regeneration), lower inflammation, fat burning, digestive health.



I eat 1,200 calories a day. My digestive health is fine.

I'll check out your video though.

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« Reply #70 on: April 23, 2022, 04:29:52 PM »
I eat 1,200 calories a day. My digestive health is fine.

I'll check out your video though.
do your thing man, that's the recommended caloric intake for an 12 year old girl, just FYI.

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« Reply #71 on: April 23, 2022, 04:31:42 PM »
do your thing man, that's the recommended caloric intake for an 12 year old girl, just FYI.

That might explain why all my health markers are closer to a teenager than a 40-year-old man.

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« Reply #72 on: April 23, 2022, 04:44:53 PM »
That might explain why all my health markers are closer to a teenager than a 40-year-old man.
mine are of a healthy strong mid 20s male, and posted to prove it, all the while eating 3,000 calories a day of steak, eggs, and raw milk👍

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« Reply #73 on: April 23, 2022, 06:59:45 PM »
mine are of a healthy strong mid 20s male, and posted to prove it, all the while eating 3,000 calories a day of steak, eggs, and raw milk👍

You’ve been doing this for a few months, no?  Seems a bit premature to draw any long term conclusions on it

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« Reply #74 on: April 23, 2022, 10:04:41 PM »
mine are of a healthy strong mid 20s male, and posted to prove it, all the while eating 3,000 calories a day of steak, eggs, and raw milk👍

I'm not denying it - I just feel like you're selling a magic bullet, when the only magic bullet is to be consistent.