ONE PILL CAN KILL!

[stuntmovie]

One kilogram of fentanyl has the potential to kill 500,000 people.
Any of you guys try this shit yet .... knowingly or unknowingly?

If "YES!" .... Are you dead yet?!

BTW... 1 Kilogram equals approx 2.2 pounds

I introduce this subject because a well-known gym member sorta suspects that fentanyl may be involved within these numerous bodybuilding/fitness deaths we have been concerned with lately.

Any intelligent remarks, suspicions, or personal or unexpected  or accidental 'ingestion' by any GetBigger would be appreciated.

I say "unexpected" and/or "accidental" because I have been told by one who is well aware of illegal drug usage (Yes!, from Personal Experience)  that it is becoming common to add fentanyl in small amounts to YOUR daily drug purchase, PED or otherwise.

And ...  in order to simply save time and effort ..... re-read the first sentence above!

I ask ..... Is this shit possibly involved with these recent BB deaths!?

[deadz]

Who’s is killing, drug addicts, whooooooo caresssss!

[Dave D]

Why would drug dealers knowingly add an instantaneous killer into the drugs they sell? They would run out of clients.

The real question is what is more dangerous fentanyl laced street drugs of the covid vaccine?

[Flexacon]

How many of the recent deaths amongst the big names in the bodybuilding community were actually unexpected though?

Rhodan was kinda a surprise, but then we heard he was having some heart issues, but decided to blow up anyway. He was no spring chicken either.

George Peterson was unexpected, but that was like a day out from a show.

Most of the other deaths Dallas, Porter, Meadows, Bostin, Cedric, were no surprise. Even Stevie Wonder saw those coming.

Cummings is a bit of a puzzler, but we have no info on what happened there. A lot of the other female deaths had Shelby in common.

[El Diablo Blanco]

Why would drug dealers knowingly add an instantaneous killer into the drugs they sell? They would run out of clients.

The real question is what is more dangerous fentanyl laced street drugs of the covid vaccine?

They’re not trying to kill people but trying to pass of fentanyl as Oxys. Fentanyl is cheap and goes a long way in dosing but these guys are creating tabs in bathtubs so just a minor increase of it in a pill can be lethal

[ThisisOverload]

They’re not trying to kill people but trying to pass of fentanyl as Oxys. Fentanyl is cheap and goes a long way in dosing but these guys are creating tabs in bathtubs so just a minor increase of it in a pill can be lethal

Yeah it's all about money.

There is a lot of profit to be made.

[beakdoctor]

I haven't used it personally but two old friends of mine have died from it and an old coworker accidentally came into contact with it and had to be rushed to emergency.

Fentanyl is no joke. When people die on fentanyl its technically not an overdose because even small doses kill.

There are several high profile instances of paramedics, cops and firefighters attempting to resuscitate people who've taken fentanyl and just the physical contact has caused the responders to fall unconscious.

Recently 2 military cadets overdosed and died. 2 other cadets attempted cpr and those 2 died as well.

Its just flooding in from Mexico. In places like Portland fentanyl has replaced most of the other street drugs. Its cheap, readily available and a little bit goes a long way. In fact in Multnomah county jail the deputies issue Narcan to those getting out on bond because fentanyl overdoses are so common.

Its also used to cut other drugs. A few high schoolers overdosed on it thinking they were using something else.

Whatever happened to weed, acid, shrooms and maybe a little bit of coke?

[stuntmovie]

Great question, Dave!

And ... Great answer, El Diablo!

I was 'wondering' likewise .... and I've just been told that 'fin' is so damn cheap, yon can buy it by the "quarts" and "gallons".

I don't understand MG nor KG, so I prefer to think in inches and feets and quarts and gallons ..... But I'm smart enough to realize that I'm far from accurate when measuring drugs and foreign stuff.

And FIN is super cheap and adds a  big kick/punch to your drug of choice.

A very cheap way to kick the bucket or get your ticket punched!

[Stephano]

Recently 2 military cadets overdosed and died. 2 other cadets attempted cpr and those 2 died as well.

No fucking way.  That's a tall tale, for sure.

[stuntmovie]

BEAKDOC, Thanks for adding to my shit-list of more shit that I gotta worry about.

Although I'm not a 'druggie' I do live in Vegas and run into many so-called 'druggies'
who need a sandwich or a dollar .....  along with close contacts who make some of our MJ Dispensaries a daily visit .... and although I totally believe that these licensed dispensaries are clean and above-board .... I gotta ask ya ...."What the hell is NARCAN?!

And do I have to go to jail to get it?

[Dave D]

They’re not trying to kill people but trying to pass of fentanyl as Oxys. Fentanyl is cheap and goes a long way in dosing but these guys are creating tabs in bathtubs so just a minor increase of it in a pill can be lethal

I guess I don’t understand. Are they using it as cutting agent?

Flour is a cheap white powder. Deaths from flour overdose is low.

[tommywishbone]

Why would drug dealers knowingly add an instantaneous killer into the drugs they sell? They would run out of clients.

The real question is what is more dangerous fentanyl laced street drugs of the covid vaccine?

Bingo.

It’s another bullshit story. No drug dealers are adding fentanyl to any fucking thing. Total bullshit.


Dope fiends want a cheap high…
They buy cheap and very strong fentanyl…
They OD.

The end.

[tommywishbone]

I guess I don’t understand. Are the using it as cutting agent?

Flour is a cheap white powder. Deaths from flour overdose is low.

They are NOT using fentanyl as a cutting agent. Completely insane. Laughable.

Dope fiends are idiots. They want a cheap, long lasting high. They will buy anything.

And NO COKE DEALER would have fentanyl within 100 yards of his Coke supply. If the contaminated Coke didn’t kill their customers, they would lose their customer because the Cocaine would put them to sleep… and good cocaine doesn’t put people to sleep. LOL!

Here’s the deal-  I have exceptional connections. You name the drug or other illegal product and I can probably get “some” in a few days… a week at the most. I asked my guy for a gram of pure fentanyl…he just started laughing. Fentanyl is hard as fuck to find. Nobody uses fentanyl to cut anything.

[joswift]

One kilogram of fentanyl has the potential to kill 500,000 people.
Any of you guys try this shit yet .... knowingly or unknowingly?

If "YES!" .... Are you dead yet?!

I think the responses to that may not be too reliable...

[Taffin]

Whatever happened to weed, acid, shrooms and maybe a little bit of coke?

Here’s the deal-  I have exceptional connections. You name the drug or other illegal product and I can probably get “some” in a few days… a week at the most. I asked my guy for a gram of pure fentanyl…he just started laughing. Fentanyl is hard as fuck to find. Nobody uses fentanyl to cut anything.

I am certain that Tommy knows his shit, so this is not by way of disagreement.  But to an interested observer, there would appear to be an opportunity for large scale drug smugglers to use this shit to drastically alter the risk to reward ratio inherent in this line of business due to 'The War On Drugs' - does there not?

By this I mean, if you are going to risk smuggling large amounts of 'drug X' then you may as well risk smuggling the strongest one.  Because that one can be used to make more money by selling to many more people, right?  Not necessarily by using it to adulterate other product, but if you could take a gram of this stuff and make 1000 fake Oxys (or whatever) that's vastly more profitable than just reselling the legit stuff - OR - just selling the gram by itself

To put it another way - and I have zero idea of numbers - but if a kilo of heroin makes $ and the same amount of fentanyl makes 50 x $ - why wouldn't you trade the more profitable item?  (Risk of death/killing customers notwithstanding)

Exhibit 1
Prince died after taking fake Vicodin laced with fentanyl, prosecutor says.  "In all likelihood, Prince had no idea he was taking a counterfeit pill that could kill him," the Minnesota prosecutor said.

[beakdoctor]

They are NOT using fentanyl as a cutting agent. Completely insane. Laughable.

Dope fiends are idiots. They want a cheap, long lasting high. They will buy anything.

And NO COKE DEALER would have fentanyl within 100 yards of his Coke supply. If the contaminated Coke didn’t kill their customers, they would lose their customer because the Cocaine would put them to sleep… and good cocaine doesn’t put people to sleep. LOL!

Here’s the deal-  I have exceptional connections. You name the drug or other illegal product and I can probably get “some” in a few days… a week at the most. I asked my guy for a gram of pure fentanyl…he just started laughing. Fentanyl is hard as fuck to find. Nobody uses fentanyl to cut anything.

Tommy, I always assumed you were in California.  But if you want fentanyl come to Portland OR. Its so fucking common.

And here everything is cut or laced with it.

The 2 of the most common street drugs up here are heroin (black tar and brown powder) and oxys are always cut with it now. Its cheaper than heroin so pushers increase their profits by cutting it. Bevause its so powerful overdoses are a daily occurrence.

Btw Narcan is a drug paramedics use in overdoses.  It binds to the opioid receptors. Its a non narcotic. It will prevent the drug from binding. I ve seen dopers goe from totally unconscious to totally sober in minutes. And then get pissed because they're no longer high. Ive seen dopers half dead one minute then attacking a paramedic seconds later because the narcan took away their high

[beakdoctor]

I am certain that Tommy knows his shit, so this is not by way of disagreement.  But to an interested observer, there would appear to be an opportunity for large scale drug smugglers to use this shit to drastically alter the risk to reward ratio inherent in this line of business due to 'The War On Drugs' - does there not?

By this I mean, if you are going to risk smuggling large amounts of 'drug X' then you may as well risk smuggling the strongest one.  Because that one can be used to make more money by selling to many more people, right?  Not necessarily by using it to adulterate other product, but if you could take a gram of this stuff and make 1000 fake Oxys (or whatever) that's vastly more profitable than just reselling the legit stuff - OR - just selling the gram by itself

To put it another way - and I have zero idea of numbers - but if a kilo of heroin makes $ and the same amount of fentanyl makes 50 x $ - why wouldn't you trade the more profitable item?  (Risk of death/killing customers notwithstanding)

Exhibit 1
Prince died after taking fake Vicodin laced with fentanyl, prosecutor says.  "In all likelihood, Prince had no idea he was taking a counterfeit pill that could kill him," the Minnesota prosecutor said.

Not just Prince but im pretty sure Bowie and Tom Petty too

Im sure Tommy knows what hes talking about but he's seriously misinformed if he thinks other drugs aren't being cut with fentanyl.

[Taffin]

Not just Prince but im pretty sure Bowie and Tom Petty too

Im sure Tommy knows what hes talking about but he's seriously misinformed if he thinks other drugs aren't being cut with fentanyl.

Yeah, and maybe I'm using the wrong terminology here, but I think I'm coming at this from the counterfeit painkiller angle more than the cutting of street drugs/powders, etc.  A pill press could pump out hundreds of fake painkillers that give the opiate feel much easier than trying to ripoff  and resell pharmacy gear, or smuggle legit pharma stuff from other countries already in pill form.  Also makes life easier in terms of making the smuggling load more compact/less detectable, even?

I used the Prince example as a public figure example, but the OD figures over here - in Scotland in particular - where fentanyl was identified in counterfeit form has sky-rocketed (I'll try to find a link to the Office of National Statistics report from late last year).  I'm sure the CDC in the States would have similar figures..?

[Taffin]

Quick example - obviously Scotland isn't the US, so the situation may be totally different over there


Substance misuse group SMART Recovery Fife has revealed it received an initial alert about tablets contaminated with the opioid fentanyl being sold as Valium in the Cardenden area in recent weeks.

Fentanyl is normally used to treat severe pain, assist with end-of-life care, and is often more potent than heroin.Valium is the brand name for diazepam, part of the benzodiazepine family of drugs that act like a sedative and are prescribed to treat anxiety, alcohol withdrawal, muscle spasms and some seizures.

However, fake Valium pills were linked to a 43% rise in the number of people in Glasgow who died of drugs overdoses between January and October in 2018, while several other Scottish cities have experienced similar problems amid claims that the drugs are becoming “cheaper than chips”.

Drug agency Turning Point has also suggested that many of the tablets are bought online, where 10,000 tablets can be bought for £800, or 8p a pill.  Police Scotland previously issued a warning last summer about white tablets emblazoned with the logo ‘Roche’, the number 10 and a half score on the reverse, as most likely to contain fentanyl.  Officers warned it can be 10 times stronger than diamorphine and can lead to an increase of overdose and potentially death.

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/fife/2018110/warning-over-fake-valium-laced-with-potentially-lethal-fentanyl-circulating-in-fife/

[Matt]

Tommy, I always assumed you were in California.  But if you want fentanyl come to Portland OR. Its so fucking common.

And here everything is cut or laced with it.

The 2 of the most common street drugs up here are heroin (black tar and brown powder) and oxys are always cut with it now. Its cheaper than heroin so pushers increase their profits by cutting it. Bevause its so powerful overdoses are a daily occurrence.

Btw Narcan is a drug paramedics use in overdoses.  It binds to the opioid receptors. Its a non narcotic. It will prevent the drug from binding. I ve seen dopers goe from totally unconscious to totally sober in minutes. And then get pissed because they're no longer high. Ive seen dopers half dead one minute then attacking a paramedic seconds later because the narcan took away their high

Same with Thunder Bay, Canada, beakdoctor.

Fentanyl is everywhere. It's awful. A long-time local drug lord got arrested in 2012, and replaced by a bunch of Black gang members from Toronto. Whether the situation would have been as bad had he not been arrested, I don't know.

It seems to me this is happening more and more, everywhere. Scary stuff [for those who use drugs].

[beakdoctor]

Quick example -

I think it's most common in pills....

Where the hell is ESF when you need him?

[deadz]

I think it's most common in pills....

Where the hell is ESF when you need him?

Likely prison.

[blue52]

ive personally knows 7 people who have died of fenty overdoses in the last year

[Dave D]

ive personally knows 7 people who have died of fenty overdoses in the last year

How many died from covid?

[blue52]

How many died from covid?

eleventeen