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Nick WALKERs leg vascularity !!
« on: April 25, 2022, 10:12:42 AM »
His vascularity only started to show recently in the past 2-3 years, when he started to put on an incredible amount of beef. Does anyone have a guess why? ??? (obviously it's not a genetics then)

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Re: Nick WALKERs leg vascularity !!
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2022, 10:14:22 AM »
Blood pressure causes varicose veins

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Re: Nick WALKERs leg vascularity !!
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2022, 10:19:55 AM »
It is, in his case, a consequence of increased blood volume (muscle mass, GH, roids etc). And maybe a more tendency for varicose veins (should probably look at mother and female side of family) than other pros.

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Re: Nick WALKERs leg vascularity !!
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2022, 10:21:12 AM »
and increased blood volume will increase blood pressure unless you medicate it hard

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Re: Nick WALKERs leg vascularity !!
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2022, 10:34:19 AM »
It’s Hereditary…… (my  Mom has them) …I have them (spent a fortune to have them removed by “ vein stripping “ a very painful and multiple procedure….and they came back ….

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Re: Nick WALKERs leg vascularity !!
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2022, 10:49:36 AM »
One can only guess since he's on a whole slew of drugs. His veins are probably due to some combination of blood pressure, blood volume, liver disease, sleep apnea, and the drugs.

And genetic predisposition.  ;D

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Re: Nick WALKERs leg vascularity !!
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2022, 11:28:01 AM »
Gunter Schlierkamp had them too:

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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2022, 11:38:07 AM »
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Re: Nick WALKERs leg vascularity !!
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2022, 11:48:02 AM »
I wonder if having say a very thick and prominent bicep vein has an relation to how muscular/good a bb you are? I know some good guys have no vascularity but are there skinny guys with really thick veins? Like Arnold or Big Lou.

My buddy has good veinage too and there is maybe only a hint of varicose developing. But he's always had low BP.

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« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2022, 11:59:49 AM »
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« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2022, 12:23:48 PM »


thats healthy vascularity

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Re: Nick WALKERs leg vascularity !!
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2022, 12:40:32 PM »
His vascularity only started to show recently in the past 2-3 years, when he started to put on an incredible amount of beef. Does anyone have a guess why? ??? (obviously it's not a genetics then)

Eggs?

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Re: Nick WALKERs leg vascularity !!
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2022, 01:14:13 PM »
I wonder if having say a very thick and prominent bicep vein has an relation to how muscular/good a bb you are? I know some good guys have no vascularity but are there skinny guys with really thick veins? Like Arnold or Big Lou.

My buddy has good veinage too and there is maybe only a hint of varicose developing. But he's always had low BP.

A high school friend of mine who I was also in the army with had the best bodybuilding genetics of anyone I knew when I was a teen.

He had that prominent arm vein. By 2006 when I was on roids [remember how you called me out, and I initially lied about it?  ;D], our arms were about the same size [mine were just under 17" flexed/pumped], but he had that prominent biceps vein.

You can get an idea of his shape in this shot, but he has kids now and doesn't train like he once did:

https://m.facebook.com/38CBG/photos/a.3196981063675459/3196981940342038/

He was always very lean at 185-205. He looked to be 6% body fat, so he was probably actually 10-12%. I know body fat is one of those things we tend to estimate incorrectly.

In fact, how lean is the average competition bodybuilder? Are they really 3%?

I don't know if the arm vein has a correlation, but you might be right. There are definitely some prominent examples.

There are guys like Jay Cutler who have no such vascularity [as you implied], but do we ever see good veins on people without bodybuilding potential?

What's your theory, Van? That the biceps vein feeds the rest of the arm?

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Re: Nick WALKERs leg vascularity !!
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2022, 01:33:44 PM »
A high school friend of mine who I was also in the army with had the best bodybuilding genetics of anyone I knew when I was a teen.

He had that prominent arm vein. By 2006 when I was on roids [remember how you called me out, and I initially lied about it?  ;D], our arms were about the same size [mine were just under 17" flexed/pumped], but he had that prominent biceps vein.

You can get an idea of his shape in this shot, but he has kids now and doesn't train like he once did:

https://m.facebook.com/38CBG/photos/a.3196981063675459/3196981940342038/

He was always very lean at 185-205. He looked to be 6% body fat, so he was probably actually 10-12%. I know body fat is one of those things we tend to estimate incorrectly.

In fact, how lean is the average competition bodybuilder? Are they really 3%?

I don't know if the arm vein has a correlation, but you might be right. There are definitely some prominent examples.

There are guys like Jay Cutler who have no such vascularity [as you implied], but do we ever see good veins on people without bodybuilding potential?

What's your theory, Van? That the biceps vein feeds the rest of the arm?
if they are carrying a lot of water then yes maybe

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Re: Nick WALKERs leg vascularity !!
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2022, 08:19:18 PM »
if they are carrying a lot of water then yes maybe

3% if they are carrying water?

So if they are dry, are they actually under 3%?

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Re: Nick WALKERs leg vascularity !!
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2022, 10:12:08 PM »
How veiny is his COCK?

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Re: Nick WALKERs leg vascularity !!
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2022, 10:43:17 PM »
His vascularity only started to show recently in the past 2-3 years, when he started to put on an incredible amount of beef. Does anyone have a guess why? ??? (obviously it's not a genetics then)


He looks like shit on the right pic, wouldn’t place any where or turn pro in the late 90’s, early 2000’s

Shows it’s all drugs and weak competition

Circus show all over

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Re: Nick WALKERs leg vascularity !!
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2022, 10:45:07 PM »
3% if they are carrying water?

So if they are dry, are they actually under 3%?

Doubt it

Not possible

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Re: Nick WALKERs leg vascularity !!
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2022, 11:42:49 PM »
Doubt it

Not possible

It seemed too low to me also. I remember when Claude Groulx won the 2003 Master's Mr. Olympia contest, he said he was 3.5% body fat, and while there have been bodybuilders a little leaner than him, I also wondered how accurately these body fat percentages are being reported.

We all know the example of Flex Wheeler testing at 0.0% body fat in Gold's Venice by Jim Quinn.  ;D

Lou Ferrigno said in a scene from a radio interview in his Walking Tall training video that he was 1% body fat. It's incredible how these guys either lie, or...just have no clue, when it's already incredibly hard to do what they do, but they need to make it seem even more unrealistic by stating that they train six hours a day, or are 1% body fat or whatever.

I'm trying to think of a realistic body percentage for me, while having a diet that isn't too restrictive and generally not using anything to help me with that [nothing I would take regularly I mean, if anything at all], and I think 15% is fine. I say this knowing people falsely think 15% is 10-12%. Again, to be in shape without going overboard. A year-round shape, basically.

I was under the impression that bodybuilders might get to 4-6% - which we call "3%", but given that the organs have visceral fat that can't go away completely, that it's not possible to go much lower...without dying.

So a 250-lb bodybuilder at 6% body fat would only have 15-lb of total fat in his entire body. Given the aforementioned organ fat, this seemed more realistic than claims of 3%, which would only be 7.5-lb of total fat in the body. That just seems extremely low to me, given we need this visceral fat, in order to survive. But I'm not sure on that.

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« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2022, 07:32:37 AM »
3% if they are carrying water?

So if they are dry, are they actually under 3%?

that would be true

a 3% bf measurement means that the overall fat weight of your body is 3%

Add more water and the fat % has to go down

A dry bodybuilder will have a higher BF% than a watery one

Imagine Muntzer onstage at 4%, then three days later carrying 20lbs of water.
His Bf would be the same but its percentage would have to be lower

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Re: Nick WALKERs leg vascularity !!
« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2022, 10:14:08 AM »

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Re: Nick WALKERs leg vascularity !!
« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2022, 10:23:36 AM »
It’s Hereditary…… (my  Mom has them) …I have them (spent a fortune to have them removed by “ vein stripping “ a very painful and multiple procedure….and they came back ….

They use ablation surgery now which is outpatient and recovery is only a couple of days. Those vein stripping surgeries were barbaric.

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Re: Nick WALKERs leg vascularity !!
« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2022, 11:27:16 AM »
It seemed too low to me also. I remember when Claude Groulx won the 2003 Master's Mr. Olympia contest, he said he was 3.5% body fat, and while there have been bodybuilders a little leaner than him, I also wondered how accurately these body fat percentages are being reported.

We all know the example of Flex Wheeler testing at 0.0% body fat in Gold's Venice by Jim Quinn.  ;D

Lou Ferrigno said in a scene from a radio interview in his Walking Tall training video that he was 1% body fat. It's incredible how these guys either lie, or...just have no clue, when it's already incredibly hard to do what they do, but they need to make it seem even more unrealistic by stating that they train six hours a day, or are 1% body fat or whatever.

I'm trying to think of a realistic body percentage for me, while having a diet that isn't too restrictive and generally not using anything to help me with that [nothing I would take regularly I mean, if anything at all], and I think 15% is fine. I say this knowing people falsely think 15% is 10-12%. Again, to be in shape without going overboard. A year-round shape, basically.

I was under the impression that bodybuilders might get to 4-6% - which we call "3%", but given that the organs have visceral fat that can't go away completely, that it's not possible to go much lower...without dying.

So a 250-lb bodybuilder at 6% body fat would only have 15-lb of total fat in his entire body. Given the aforementioned organ fat, this seemed more realistic than claims of 3%, which would only be 7.5-lb of total fat in the body. That just seems extremely low to me, given we need this visceral fat, in order to survive. But I'm not sure on that.

without a DEXA scan no one really knows someones BF% and even they can be inconsistent

All I know is that the driest bodybuilders will have a higer BF% than a smooth one

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Re: Nick WALKERs leg vascularity !!
« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2022, 01:20:34 PM »
They use ablation surgery now which is outpatient and recovery is only a couple of days. Those vein stripping surgeries were barbaric.
When I went back they did some (ablation?) right in the office while I was awake … hurt like fuck tho! ..  was swearing my head off and the nurse was holding me down lol … spent  like a year between the vein stripping and the office procedures…. Like I stated most of the veins have come back! ….

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Re: Nick WALKERs leg vascularity !!
« Reply #24 on: April 26, 2022, 02:24:57 PM »
When I went back they did some (ablation?) right in the office while I was awake … hurt like fuck tho! ..  was swearing my head off and the nurse was holding me down lol … spent  like a year between the vein stripping and the office procedures…. Like I stated most of the veins have come back! ….
Where you told the veins could come back?
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