3.3 times her bodyweight (deadlift)

[WoogsRaven]

Same here. The women lifters in my gym are very hardcore and very strong, while maintaining their overall femininity. One woman in my gym who is around 160 pounds can bench 225 for 2 clean reps. All natural.

[joswift]

Same here. The women lifters in my gym are very hardcore and very strong, while maintaining their overall femininity. One woman in my gym who is around 160 pounds can bench 225 for 2 clean reps. All natural.

are you with her 24/7?

[WoogsRaven]

are you with her 24/7?

No, why? You're assuming that I'm wrong about her being natural? I've been around yoked up people in the gym for years, both male and female, and I can definitely say she's natural. 

There's another powerlifting friend of mine who I do hang out with a lot( NOT 24/7, as you put it) who competes at meets at 195 pounds. He benched 375 clean at his last meet, finishing first in his weight class. Can also bench press 225 pounds for almost 30 reps. Natural as can be, takes nothing anabolic. Just eats properly and trains consistently. Yes, these types of people do exist.

[joswift]

No, why? You're assuming that I'm wrong about her being natural? I've been around yoked up people in the gym for years, both male and female, and I can definitely say she's natural without hesitation. She's been a natural powerlifter for most of her teenage and adult life.

There's another powerlifting friend of mine who I do hang out with a lot( NOT ALL THE TIME, as you put it) who competes at meets at 195 pounds. He benched 375 clean at his last meet, finishing first in his weight class. Can also bench press 225 pounds for almost 30 reps. Natural as can be, takes nothing anabolic. Just eats properly and trains consistently.

unless you are with someone 24/7 you dont know for sure they are clean

as for being able to tell if someones natural or not, what about the other way around?
I know people who take truckloads of year and dont even look like they lift

[WoogsRaven]

unless you are with someone 24/7 you dont know for sure they are clean

as for being able to tell if someones natural or not, what about the other way around?
I know people who take truckloads of year and dont even look like they lift

Well...yeah...ok...I can always tell when someone's on the sauce or using, whether it be skin coloration, bloat/ etc. It's very obvious. The people you're referring to that take lots of stuff but look like shit simply have SHIT genetics.

I worked at Kevin Levrone's gym for a few years in the late 90's. About a good 70% of the members were juice monkeys. Very easy to tell apart who was yoked and who wasn't. You seem like an older, experienced lifter yourself so I'm mildly surprised you're debating this topic. We're also differentiating between powerlifting and bodybuilding.

[Hulkotron]

I know everyone on getbig easily reps 315 for 8 on bench at under 200 lbs but in reality 225x2 at 160 lbs is pretty strong even for natural men.  I'd say it borders the realm of believability that a woman is doing that drug-free.

[WoogsRaven]

I know everyone on getbig easily reps 315 for 8 on bench at under 200 lbs but in reality 225x2 at 160 lbs is pretty strong even for natural men.  I'd say it borders the realm of believability that a woman is doing that drug-free.

100%. Especially when you're as committed to it as someone like the woman who I saw do it. She barely got the 3rd rep up but she did with no help. She practically laid on the floor for 10 minutes after she did it. Here's the link.....you be the judge. Technically, she hit 3 reps. Also, a hell of an athlete and gymnast.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CbJWn-WuRCA/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link