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Re: Gym Etiquette - Was I Wrong Here?
« Reply #225 on: May 31, 2022, 09:21:05 AM »
500mg a week or you are wasting your time and money and won't get proper results so then you will just bitch more about it also dont be a bitch and quit after 4 weeks claiming some kind of ailment it is going to take a couple months to do anything

But you have also done this half a dozen times and have been on the board talking shit about PEDS like a know it all for 20 years so why the questions?

my first cycle was 16 mgs of Winstrol tabs (8x2mg tabs) a day for 8 weeks, I gained 20lb and kept 12 when I came of, oh and I was very lean as well.

Jumping in at 500mgs you will never know if 250 would do the job

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Re: Gym Etiquette - Was I Wrong Here?
« Reply #226 on: May 31, 2022, 09:58:51 AM »
Thanks again, Van.

I'll tell you this: it would be VERY EASY to talk me out of using steroids right now, if a legitimate argument was presented. MCWAY speaking vaguely about "health" in itself isn't sufficient - many things are unhealthy, but we incorporate them into our lives for reasons, because they increase our quality of life. But when you talk about very specific potential impacts of steroid use [headaches, or increased risk of injury, for instance], that gives me more pause for thought.

You brought up your health, specifically about getting "FATTER" was being more of a detriment than using performance-enhancing drugs.

I simply disagree with that assessment. And I also stated that the look you claimed you wanted to achieve did not require use of steroids. Even you copped to that.


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Re: Gym Etiquette - Was I Wrong Here?
« Reply #227 on: May 31, 2022, 11:07:04 AM »
Has Matt “School Shooter” Canning started his cycle yet or is he still just crying out for attention?

At least if he does run a cycle he will get his testosterone levels up to that of a 13 year old girl.

And to think the Canadian government lets that fucking unhinged spastic fuck raise children.

I guess he is just going to have to impress Getbig with more photos - the retards always think more photos is the solution. Canning and Hankins the autism twins.
HA HA HA HA ....too fucking funny.  LOL  ;D

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Re: Gym Etiquette - Was I Wrong Here?
« Reply #228 on: May 31, 2022, 11:14:30 AM »
my first cycle was 16 mgs of Winstrol tabs (8x2mg tabs) a day for 8 weeks, I gained 20lb and kept 12 when I came of, oh and I was very lean as well.

Jumping in at 500mgs you will never know if 250 would do the job
Mine was three 5 mg. CIBA D-Bol tabs a day.......duration was two bottles of one hundred pills......got a double bodyweight bench out if it after being a drunken bum and returning to the gym and benching ninety five pounds for a shaky hard eight reps in my first "workout" back after missing seven years due to being a dyed in thee wool alky.

I think I may have done some orals once before years ago before the D-Bol cycle but my lost brain cells aren`t firing today.  :D.

That CIBA D-Bol makes those stupid pink hearts D-Bol seem like taking skittles candy................... .........which by the way is a staple of Hankys diet.  ;D

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Re: Gym Etiquette - Was I Wrong Here?
« Reply #229 on: May 31, 2022, 11:15:01 AM »
MATT CANNING SHALL HAVE HIS REVENGE!

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Re: Gym Etiquette - Was I Wrong Here?
« Reply #230 on: May 31, 2022, 11:15:51 AM »
:D

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« Reply #231 on: May 31, 2022, 01:10:58 PM »
just run 250mg trt for 6-12months and go from there.  inexpensive, well tolerated, makes you feel great, relatively safe.  thinking in terms of weeks is kinda futile in this guys opinion
x2 great advice

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Re: Gym Etiquette - Was I Wrong Here?
« Reply #232 on: May 31, 2022, 01:24:55 PM »
HA HA HA HA ....too fucking funny.  LOL  ;D

For frame of reference:

A 160 lb spastic fucking manlet, who is 40 years old and lives with his parents, while other people raise his children, wants to take illegal performance drugs to get up to 170 lbs and increase his bench press because he thinks that will impress anonymous strangers on the internet.

🤣

You can’t make this shit up! And the best part is that he isn’t aware of just how freaking weird, small, and weak he really is out in the real world.   🤣

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« Reply #233 on: May 31, 2022, 01:58:46 PM »
MATT CANNING SHALL HAVE HIS REVENGE!

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Re: Gym Etiquette - Was I Wrong Here?
« Reply #234 on: May 31, 2022, 02:51:04 PM »
Mine was three 5 mg. CIBA D-Bol tabs a day.......duration was two bottles of one hundred pills......got a double bodyweight bench out if it after being a drunken bum and returning to the gym and benching ninety five pounds for a shaky hard eight reps in my first "workout" back after missing seven years due to being a dyed in thee wool alky.

I think I may have done some orals once before years ago before the D-Bol cycle but my lost brain cells aren`t firing today.  :D.

That CIBA D-Bol makes those stupid pink hearts D-Bol seem like taking skittles candy................... .........which by the way is a staple of Hankys diet.  ;D

Mine was 20mgs of the Thailand anabols 4x5s for 8 weeks taken all at once every morning. I went from 230-260 and when I got off I stayed 255 with no pct and most my strength stayed. Low dose is great when shit is real.

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Re: Gym Etiquette - Was I Wrong Here?
« Reply #235 on: May 31, 2022, 03:43:54 PM »
Whose gimmick account is “Mohammed Omari”?

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Re: Gym Etiquette - Was I Wrong Here?
« Reply #236 on: May 31, 2022, 03:50:13 PM »
Proper you look like an injury waiting to happen pick up the 80s next time and go slow and controlled and bring them all the way down to your chest you should be able to rest the weight on your damn chest between reps

There is no way you are getting a pump in your chest from that there is no mind muscle connection there

Its better than being an injury that has happened.

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« Reply #237 on: May 31, 2022, 04:02:27 PM »
Fuck off, you withered cunt. 'The scientific literature is not the same as the real world'. LOL, there's the scientific way, and then there's the Hankins way. Which is, whatever Hankins is doing, THAT'S the right way! Why? Because HE'S doing it. And there's nothing else to consider, because Hankins knows best. Doesn't matter if you lift for strength, or mental wellbeing, or for cardiovascular benefits. It doesn't matter what your views on nutrition are, or what your goals are, or what you enjoy eating. DO WHAT BRIAN DOES!

Need TRT? 500 mg per week is the minimum! Why? Because that's what Cow Head is currently using. Anything less than supraphysiological dosages is just a waste of your time, and doesn't in ANY WAY contradict the definition of 'replacement therapy'. Why? Because there's no way that Brian is simply just a deluded and arrogant fuck-up whose physique is the result of drugs alone.

This.

The fact that Bhanks would be critical of anyones form is funny.

Matt used to post deadlift videos where he couldn’t keep his feet still and it drove everyone nuts. But it worked for him. Matt’s form is fine.

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Re: Gym Etiquette - Was I Wrong Here?
« Reply #238 on: May 31, 2022, 04:03:49 PM »
I reiterate that MattC trains strongman.

Purpose in strongman is to get the weight up.

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« Reply #239 on: May 31, 2022, 04:59:33 PM »
250mg is plenty.  500mg is fine but 250mg is enough to look very good indeed
X2. 250mgs is plenty for Matt.

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Re: Gym Etiquette - Was I Wrong Here?
« Reply #240 on: May 31, 2022, 05:01:07 PM »
Mine was three 5 mg. CIBA D-Bol tabs a day.......duration was two bottles of one hundred pills......got a double bodyweight bench out if it after being a drunken bum and returning to the gym and benching ninety five pounds for a shaky hard eight reps in my first "workout" back after missing seven years due to being a dyed in thee wool alky.

I think I may have done some orals once before years ago before the D-Bol cycle but my lost brain cells aren`t firing today.  :D.

That CIBA D-Bol makes those stupid pink hearts D-Bol seem like taking skittles candy................... .........which by the way is a staple of Hankys diet.  ;D
those little blue CIBA d-bol pills were the best

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Re: Gym Etiquette - Was I Wrong Here?
« Reply #241 on: May 31, 2022, 05:13:09 PM »
250mg twice a week and a daily 12 ounce Hitler’s steak medium rare should do it

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« Reply #242 on: May 31, 2022, 07:14:18 PM »
Matt you`re a strong guy for a Canadian.  LOL  ;D

Just kidding off course......about the Canadian part.

Lol, when Tito Ortiz beat Patrick Cote at UFC 50, Tito said "Of course he's tough - he's Canadian", after basically tossing him around for three rounds.  ;D

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« Reply #243 on: May 31, 2022, 09:35:43 PM »
You brought up your health, specifically about getting "FATTER" was being more of a detriment than using performance-enhancing drugs.

I simply disagree with that assessment. And I also stated that the look you claimed you wanted to achieve did not require use of steroids. Even you copped to that.

Yes, BUT - it's not just the look, MCWAY. On juice, even the tiniest amounts possible, I feel like my pumps are maintained all day, or I even get pumped walking up stairs.

You know how you look better after a chest workout, because your chest and shoulders are pumped up?

That's how I'd like to spend the summer being.

Admittedly, it's also nice having heads turning, and despite the UTTER DELUSIONS OF THIS MESSAGE BOARD, the average person is nowhere near as in-shape as I am - let alone on juice.

In fact, I can post multiple screenshots from videos in the gym with people watching me train. Happens ALL THE TIME.

My point is - I'm looking for some of those stares - just for the ego lift right now, after having a crummy couple of years.

The thing is, MCWAY - there's no way I can look the way I do training naturally. That chronic pump look is only attainable on supplements or steroids.

I don't think the average man of 5'10" would get much bigger than 180 in contest condition. If that.

And it's also in part because once the gear kicks in within DAYS, I will get much more satisfying workouts and better pumps. That will make me double down on my efforts, and keep up my hard training, and dedication to nutrition.

I've gone my entire life without gear. I've proven I am TOO CAUTIOUS with my health - to the point that my doctor has literally ordered me to start eating cheat meals.

I could become addicted to gear use...I mean, there are risks.

It will make me slightly less healthy, presumably. But how bad would 500mg of Sustanon weekly and 25mg of Anadrol daily be?

I'm just looking for a little boost - not much more.

When I was younger I WANTED to look like I do now, more or less. So I don't intend to make some radical transformation. But an intermediate cycle would be nice.

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Re: Gym Etiquette - Was I Wrong Here?
« Reply #244 on: May 31, 2022, 09:49:16 PM »
those little blue CIBA d-bol pills were the best
Hell yeah my friend....they worked.

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Re: Gym Etiquette - Was I Wrong Here?
« Reply #245 on: May 31, 2022, 09:59:56 PM »
my first cycle was 16 mgs of Winstrol tabs (8x2mg tabs) a day for 8 weeks, I gained 20lb and kept 12 when I came of, oh and I was very lean as well.

Jumping in at 500mgs you will never know if 250 would do the job

I'm glad you're here, joswift.

I was supposed to get my requisition form from my doctor today to rule out autoimmune diseases. We both decided: no PED's until the blood is drawn. Although he said PED's won't impact the results.

Just no need to have a possible confound in there.

My friend was saying separate needles are used to draw the gear into the syringe, and to inject. It's been over 15 years since I injected anything - but I don't recall doing that.

Do you use separate needles to draw the gear from the vial and inject, with lower gauge needles for that?

Also...I'm thinking low gauge needles are a bit better to shoot the gear - just to give the gear more room to flow freely. I'm not trying to harpoon a blue whale here, but - would 19 gauge be ok to both draw the gear and inject it?

The only thing stopping me from starting - after this blood test - is going to be my one-month supply of food. If I don't literally have that food in front of me, I'm not starting.

Basically, if I don't have at least 80,000 calories including 7,500 grams of protein in my fridge and freezer, I'm not starting.

I know if the first month goes well [well = perfectly...no missed meals, no missed workouts, and no missed injections for that matter], that will start the momentum going. Once the momentum is going, I will then fine-tune things.

I'll start posting photos at the 4-week mark.

Lastly - do you really think 250mg weekly is sufficient? Seems low? Heck, people even tell me 500mh is a bit low.

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Re: Gym Etiquette - Was I Wrong Here?
« Reply #246 on: May 31, 2022, 10:18:30 PM »
500mg a week or you are wasting your time and money and won't get proper results so then you will just bitch more about it also dont be a bitch and quit after 4 weeks claiming some kind of ailment it is going to take a couple months to do anything

But you have also done this half a dozen times and have been on the board talking shit about PEDS like a know it all for 20 years so why the questions?

That's definitely one of my concerns - being too conservative/cautious in my dosages. In fact, let me say - in my first cycle I think I barely did enough, and in my second cycle, I felt that same amount [500mg Test weekly + 25mg Dianabol daily] could have been increased.

This was in 2003-2004...I was around 155-160 here. I bulked up to 170 naturally before going on gear, so about 15-lb heavier than here:



So then I went from 170 to 187 on the 500mg Sustanon weekly + 25mg Dianabol daily cycle I did [12 weeks]:



Same day here, at 187:



^ Though, I'll be honest - that cycle was OK, but I didn't find the results knocked my socks off...you know?

That's why I increased it to 500mg Test weekly + 25mg Dianabol daily + the added 250mg EQ - and the result was much better, hitting 193-lb, but by far the leanest I've ever been at that weight - leaner than I normally am at 173:



^ That's when Van Bilderass called me out for using gear, lol. He could tell because my delts grew disproportionately! Apparently because there are more androgen receptors in your delts.

But I did get bacterial pneumonia, at week eight, which made me stop the cycle. Just FYI - it was really easy to talk me out of gear use at that time. Literally anyone could have talked me out of it.

Not this time. It's going to have to be a valid reason, not just vague "health" concerns. I have done every health test possible, and there is NOTHING I'm not at or even BEYOND the optimal health range in.

My resting heart rate is 52 BPM, FFS.

LOL @ "health". I went my ENTIRE LIFE fearing for my health, which is why I'm finally doing this! I've been TOO cautious. Now it's time for me to live a little before I'm too old to do it.

I will still be conservative in my doses and calories, but instead of just increasing my calories to 2,400 or 3,000 daily, I will be doing that AND adding a bit of gear.

I just want to improve my appearance somewhat, and get an idea of what it would be like on gear.

I always remember thinking that gear was a benefit, but it was never magic. But at the same time, I never used all that much.

This portable blood pressure machine belongs to someone I know - she told me she NEVER saw anyone with blood pressure as low as mine. And a resting heart rate of 52 BPM as measured by a heart ultrasound - it's safe to say there is NO REASON that I shouldn't do this.

I spent all this time getting this tests done, making sure everything was ok, etc, and I'm "ALL IN" now.

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Re: Gym Etiquette - Was I Wrong Here?
« Reply #247 on: May 31, 2022, 10:35:29 PM »
Matt, how old are you? i noticed your parents gardening messing with your sleep?

Guessing 30+

I'm 40. My parents [or possibly just my mom] want to plant a garden in my backyard for some reason. They are 61 and 63. I don't much care if one of them or both want to plant a garden here, as long as they do it on their own.

Although, to be honest...that may be a good idea. We should probably all learn how to plant gardens.

I don't know about you, but I'm concerned about upcoming potential food shortages and other shortages. I can tell you that here in Canada, people proved to be gutless cowards, and did not remotely fight back when it came to pandemic restrictions. So I don't expect Canadians to do much when the government makes it illegal for them to go to work, and supply chains start breaking down.

So I should probably learn how to make my own garden.

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Re: Gym Etiquette - Was I Wrong Here?
« Reply #248 on: May 31, 2022, 11:05:49 PM »
I wouldn't mess around with a suboptimal cycle at 40 years old especially if I was only going to do one cycle and go off indefinitely but for sure for an extended period. In fact, I would seriously consider adding GH. There's really no good argument for not adding GH especially at 40. One of the reasons young people (teens) respond better to steroids is they have higher GH. An completely rational argument could be made for using some insulin as well.



 ;D

Van - a former Getbigger who said you were a board treasure also told me to add GH.

Gosh, now you have me contemplating it. I mean, I DO NOT want to run another wussy cycle, and get minimal results like that story of your friend on test for five months.

Here's some more info for you, if this helps, Van:

I honestly did NOT think I responded well to 500mg of testosterone weekly. When comparing the results to oral-only cycles, I didn't notice much difference.

This is why I later on just did wimpy 20mg Dianabol daily cycles for one month, every 3-4-5 years. In fact, in 2008, I did 15mg of Dianabol daily from a lab called "Axio Labs", and the results were tremendous.

But the first two cycles I did, once [2004] with 500mg Sustanon weekly, and once [2005] with 500mg testosterone enanthate front-loaded with Dbols did NOT seem considerably more effective to me than just the Dbols alone.

These were 12-week cycles. It's also one reason I sort of never much used gear - for all the stigma of being a juicer, I didn't feel the gains were all that great. HOWEVER...I was awfully conservative with my dosages and timeframes running things.

That being said - I DID think my 500mg testosterone enanthate weekly + Dbols + ADDED EQUIPOSE [250mg weekly - though may have been 200mg...not sure what the standard mg/mL is - but one mL/CC per week, basically] WAS an incredible cycle.

THAT was what I hoped to get out of a cycle, and it wasn't TOO much.

So it's that line I'm trying to walk - I want to use ENOUGH that I get a CLEAR and obvious boost on top of my normal program, but really no MORE than needed. Basically - JUST enough to get visible/clear results, but not beyond that.

IMO, that 500mg test E + 250mg EQ weekly, front-loaded with 25mg Dianabol daily was PERFECT.

And in fact - it leads me to believe that I don't start seeing the magic until the 750mg to 1,000mg weekly mark.

INSULIN:

This is easy enough for me to get in Canada...but this seems remarkably easy to fuck up. I remember reading a horror story where a guy on BB.com used insulin, and almost died until he acquired a 2L pop from the 7-11, after drinking it all and immediately puking it out [presumably after his body absorbed all the sugar out of it].

I would NOT use insulin unless I'm injecting it PRE-WORKOUT AND WITH MY TRAINING PARTNER PRESENT.

Period. No fucking around with insulin. My pancreas is in very good health, based on all the tests I've done, and I don't like the idea of messing with it.

That being said, Van:

I can get cheap and freely available insulin literally tomorrow. GH...gosh, isn't there a lot of fake GH around?

I could ask in my circles - it should be available. But I'm somewhat concerned about fake GH or whatever.

In the Milos thread, he was only using insulin, wasn't he [no GH]?

Would just adding insulin help? Or is insulin one of those things you need to run with GH for it to work?

The Anadrol I have is the same company/source as 2016. I am respond VERY very well to that Anadrol.

I can't speak much for the Sustanon. I don't think I responded super well to 500mg Sustanon in 2004. It was ok...

I'm not trying to go overboard here, but I DO want to run enough where I very clearly see a difference.

IMO, 750mg to 1,000mg weekly total anabolics should achieve what I'm looking for.

Also, if I had to pick between using too much or not enough - I'd want TOO MUCH...but not THAT much too much.
...you know what I mean?

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Re: Gym Etiquette - Was I Wrong Here?
« Reply #249 on: May 31, 2022, 11:09:15 PM »
Matt, how on earth are you going to know what advice to take from so many people. If you are 40 and have trained for a long time then good luck. To compound things you have counterproductive goals. I can understand someone avoiding summer sun but a 30 year old shouldn’t make longevity a restricting goal in life. I look at your physique and we can tell you lifted heavy weights off the floor. Your shoulders have benefited from your bench presses. Restricting calories and lifting heavy = what we see in your photos. I tell you to try eating more and keep the reps over 10. Forget deadlifting. See if you can get your arms an inch bigger. When you can do that you should be able to apply that to other body parts. Increase your calories. Maybe an extra meal before going to bed. Forget about impressing Getbiggers or guys in your gym. Forget the anabolic drugs. Have some fun in life and get active dating. Stop obsessing about details! Well, you can’t help it. If I say eat 3000 calories I don’t mean exactly that many but much more than you are ingesting now. If you need specific, precise details about anything then no one can help you because you literally don’t know what to believe.