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Re: Gym Etiquette - Was I Wrong Here?
« Reply #425 on: June 10, 2022, 03:14:07 AM »
I've heard many good things about Tren...

The only drawback was that side effects seemed high, from some secondhand reports I heard.

Would you say that is correct, or does it just have a normal side effects profile?

You have to remember, Matt, most people are pussies so these issues are psychosomatic. For me, the only side effect I got was a HUGE boost to my sex drive. Almost to the point where it became an issue, as my wives all started walking like John Wayne and couldn't get up and down the stairs in the morning to bring me my tea.

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Re: Gym Etiquette - Was I Wrong Here?
« Reply #426 on: June 10, 2022, 03:17:09 AM »
You have to remember, Matt, most people are pussies so these issues are psychosomatic. For me, the only side effect I got was a HUGE boost to my sex drive. Almost to the point where it became an issue, as my wives all started walking like John Wayne and couldn't get up and down the stairs in the morning to bring me my tea.

LOL!!!

George Leeman has multiple wives now too. He lives in Thailand. Or did, last I checked.

Pete Rubish also reported raging sex drive from Tren.

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« Reply #427 on: June 10, 2022, 03:38:32 AM »
Matt,
You don't need steroids.  Your natural build just needs refinement.
As previously stated, to look like a bodybuilder you have to train that way.
The low rep training you usually do is great for strength but won't get you the bodybuilder look.
For that you need to train in a rep range of 8-12.
There are many routines on the internet.

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Re: Gym Etiquette - Was I Wrong Here?
« Reply #428 on: June 10, 2022, 03:54:42 AM »
You have to remember, Matt, most people are pussies so these issues are psychosomatic. For me, the only side effect I got was a HUGE boost to my sex drive. Almost to the point where it became an issue, as my wives all started walking like John Wayne and couldn't get up and down the stairs in the morning to bring me my tea.

Be weird to see goats walking like John Wayne. How many goats did you marry?

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« Reply #429 on: June 10, 2022, 05:04:18 AM »
Matt,
You don't need steroids.  Your natural build just needs refinement.
As previously stated, to look like a bodybuilder you have to train that way.
The low rep training you usually do is great for strength but won't get you the bodybuilder look.
For that you need to train in a rep range of 8-12.
There are many routines on the internet.

Hmm...

I'm reconsidering my cycle.

That being said, who has ever used steroids only because they couldn't get to where they wanted to naturally without them?

I understand the concept of BUILDING A NATURAL BASE before using steroids. But I don't understand why someone would have to train naturally for their goals just because that's possible.

Progress from a 16-week cycle is going to take me at least a year naturally.

Even then - that's bullshit. On juice, your pumps are so good that you basically get pumped just from lifting normal objects. And the pump you get at the gym comes much faster and much more easily and stays much longer. None of that is possible naturally, even if you do get to the same body weight.

Now I'm considering this cycle again, after realizing that.

Natural training sucks.

No, I don't want to spend a year to get the gains I can get naturally in four months. If not two years. And natural nutrition is such incredible fine-tuning, unless you just want to get fat. With juice, you can pretty much eat "whatever" and still gain lean mass. Let alone if you eat properly.

With natural training, it's totally different. Even doing everything right, you progress at a snail's pace.

It's not just that you don't notice progress from workout to workout while natural - you basically don't notice it MONTH TO MONTH. For bodybuilding I mean. I have ABSOLUTELY gone a full year doing everything right for natural bodybuilding, and I know that THE PROGRESS SUCKS.

By "everything right", I mean eating 1g protein per 1-lb LBM, and eating sufficient carbs and fats + water intake.

The progress sucked.

That's why I don't natural body-build - it's useless.

Natural strength training is satisfying. Probably even BETTER, because the injury risk is lower. AND IMO, to the general public, it makes no difference if you  deadlift 500 or 800. Most will consider both strong.

And WHO THE FUCK DOES NATURAL BODYBUILDING? It's unheard of because it is absolutely FUTILE. Imagine MCWAY telling me to do it, WHEN FUCKING LITERALLY NO ONE DOES IT, EVER.

Based on the fact that I see NO ONE at the gym making any progress, I don't consider the people there naturally bodybuilding.

They are just people who work out.

My goal is to actually gain muscle. It's possible to gain muscle naturally, but I don't think I have in 15 years. I've been heavier...but I was just fatter.

MCWAY claims to be natural at 223-lb and 15% body fat. Like most delusional self-reporting people, he's probably at LEAST 10% off.

So 223-lb and 25% body fat - which is EXACTLY why I don't want to do this naturally. Because that IS the best you will look.

I want to get back to this type of condition:

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Re: Gym Etiquette - Was I Wrong Here?
« Reply #430 on: June 10, 2022, 05:35:22 AM »
Be weird to see goats walking like John Wayne. How many goats did you marry?

I'd rather be married to a few goats than one fat pig. You best watch your tone, boy. I don't take kindly to disrespect.

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« Reply #431 on: June 10, 2022, 06:22:49 AM »
Bad news: the mom of my ex-girlfriend from 2015 hated steroids. So, I don't know...I'm reconsidering...

Cliff's notes for those who have missed:

Matt is weighing using some of the stronger anabolics to help him cope with the actions of the Canadian government.  He has posted thousands of pictures of himself to support this.

Then, one dude on page sixteen said he might not need them, which fucked it up and now we have the wrinkle above.

Stay tuned..........


For more pictures.
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Re: Gym Etiquette - Was I Wrong Here?
« Reply #432 on: June 10, 2022, 07:16:47 AM »
I'd rather be married to a few goats than one fat pig. You best watch your tone, boy. I don't take kindly to disrespect.

Hahahha my wife is far from fat and I’m glad you admitted to being married to goats you fucking dirty fuck.

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« Reply #433 on: June 10, 2022, 07:24:53 AM »
Cliff's notes for those who have missed:

Matt is weighing using some of the stronger anabolics to help him cope with the actions of the Canadian government.  He has posted thousands of pictures of himself to support this.

Then, one dude on page sixteen said he might not need them, which fucked it up and now we have the wrinkle above.

Stay tuned..........


For more pictures.

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« Reply #434 on: June 10, 2022, 07:37:59 AM »
Hmm...

I'm reconsidering my cycle.

That being said, who has ever used steroids only because they couldn't get to where they wanted to naturally without them?

I understand the concept of BUILDING A NATURAL BASE before using steroids. But I don't understand why someone would have to train naturally for their goals just because that's possible.

Progress from a 16-week cycle is going to take me at least a year naturally.

Even then - that's bullshit. On juice, your pumps are so good that you basically get pumped just from lifting normal objects. And the pump you get at the gym comes much faster and much more easily and stays much longer. None of that is possible naturally, even if you do get to the same body weight.

Now I'm considering this cycle again, after realizing that.

Natural training sucks.

No, I don't want to spend a year to get the gains I can get naturally in four months. If not two years. And natural nutrition is such incredible fine-tuning, unless you just want to get fat. With juice, you can pretty much eat "whatever" and still gain lean mass. Let alone if you eat properly.

With natural training, it's totally different. Even doing everything right, you progress at a snail's pace.

It's not just that you don't notice progress from workout to workout while natural - you basically don't notice it MONTH TO MONTH. For bodybuilding I mean. I have ABSOLUTELY gone a full year doing everything right for natural bodybuilding, and I know that THE PROGRESS SUCKS.

By "everything right", I mean eating 1g protein per 1-lb LBM, and eating sufficient carbs and fats + water intake.

The progress sucked.

That's why I don't natural body-build - it's useless.

Who said that eating 1 gram per pound of lean body mass was doing "everything right"? Most old school magazines used to recommend 1 gram per pound of bodyweight (or 2g for every kg of bodyweight plus 20......for those who prefer the metric system).

Even I don't do the 1-gram-per-1-lb LBM thing. In fact, I got my best gains when I did closer to 1.5 grams per 1 lb of bodyweight, in my younger years. I don't need that much anymore.

And therein lies the issue. You got the idea that eating a certain way was doing "everything right" to make gains without steroids. NEWS FLASH!! SO DID I!! I came up during the old Joe Weider 60-30-10 (carbs, protein, and fat, respectively) diet gospel that FLEX and Muscle & Fitness preached almost endlessly.

The difference between you and me is that, when that doing "everything right" didn't work for me, I didn't throw my hands up, declare that "natural bodybuilding SUCKS", and go a-yearnin' for the syringe!!

I tried something else. It worked. And, I achieved the gains I'd hope to make at the time (and beyond) without using anabolics.

Getting ACCUSED of using steroids, when I could barely afford weight gainers and GNC's cheap Milk & Egg protein, pretty much validated that what I did worked.
 



Natural strength training is satisfying. Probably even BETTER, because the injury risk is lower. AND IMO, to the general public, it makes no difference if you  deadlift 500 or 800. Most will consider both strong.

And WHO THE FUCK DOES NATURAL BODYBUILDING? It's unheard of because it is absolutely FUTILE. Imagine MCWAY telling me to do it, WHEN FUCKING LITERALLY NO ONE DOES IT, EVER.

Based on the fact that I see NO ONE at the gym making any progress, I don't consider the people there naturally bodybuilding.

They are just people who work out.

My goal is to actually gain muscle. It's possible to gain muscle naturally, but I don't think I have in 15 years. I've been heavier...but I was just fatter.

MCWAY claims to be natural at 223-lb and 15% body fat. Like most delusional self-reporting people, he's probably at LEAST 10% off.

So 223-lb and 25% body fat - which is EXACTLY why I don't want to do this naturally. Because that IS the best you will look.

I want to get back to this type of condition:

I'm not the one, singing "Nobody-Knows-The-Trouble-I-See" about his physique....YOU ARE!!!

Incidentally, I certainly am NOT 25% bodyfat. Trust me! I've been there before but am nowhere near that now.

Again, the only thing fueling this rant of your is a bug in your head and severe impatience. You brag about how strong you are and how you can make gains in strength (which, in case you forgot, does require gaining some muscle; it's not all just tendon, joint strength, leverage, and technique).

Simply refine your diet when you're looking to get cut and you should be fine. And that simply is eating less. One of the reasons I prefer beef to chicken and ESPECIALLY whole eggs to just egg whites is that it helps me hold on to muscle when I'm losing weight.



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Re: Gym Etiquette - Was I Wrong Here?
« Reply #435 on: June 10, 2022, 07:39:49 AM »
Too much mirror gazing, Matt.

Just pick a few big compound lifts you like, get as strong in them as you can, and throw in some isolation moves with 3-5 sets of 8-12 for looks.

And stop looking at yourself in the mirror.

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« Reply #436 on: June 10, 2022, 08:27:24 AM »
Hahahha my wife is far from fat and I’m glad you admitted to being married to goats you fucking dirty fuck.

Far BEYOND fat. I burned my ass on the lightbulb last time I shagged her. You better stop going on gay rambles and eating fruits and berries like you're Les Stroud or some shit. I want you strong and ready for when I give you these hands!

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« Reply #437 on: June 10, 2022, 08:34:39 AM »
Far BEYOND fat. I burned my ass on the lightbulb last time I shagged her. You better stop going on gay rambles and eating fruits and berries like you're Les Stroud or some shit. I want you strong and ready for when I give you these hands!

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« Reply #438 on: June 10, 2022, 08:35:22 AM »
Fuck off, you withered cunt. 'The scientific literature is not the same as the real world'. LOL, there's the scientific way, and then there's the Hankins way. Which is, whatever Hankins is doing, THAT'S the right way! Why? Because HE'S doing it. And there's nothing else to consider, because Hankins knows best. Doesn't matter if you lift for strength, or mental wellbeing, or for cardiovascular benefits. It doesn't matter what your views on nutrition are, or what your goals are, or what you enjoy eating. DO WHAT BRIAN DOES!

Need TRT? 500 mg per week is the minimum! Why? Because that's what Cow Head is currently using. Anything less than supraphysiological dosages is just a waste of your time, and doesn't in ANY WAY contradict the definition of 'replacement therapy'. Why? Because there's no way that Brian is simply just a deluded and arrogant fuck-up whose physique is the result of drugs alone.

Bump…

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Re: Gym Etiquette - Was I Wrong Here?
« Reply #439 on: June 10, 2022, 08:53:43 AM »
Be weird to see goats walking like John Wayne. How many goats did you marry?

bwahaha

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Re: Gym Etiquette - Was I Wrong Here?
« Reply #440 on: June 10, 2022, 11:13:14 AM »
Far BEYOND fat. I burned my ass on the lightbulb last time I shagged her. You better stop going on gay rambles and eating fruits and berries like you're Les Stroud or some shit. I want you strong and ready for when I give you these hands!

Please stop with the”give me these hands” nonsense. Sounds so stupid. I’m in mass. So whenever you find your way out this way maybe looking to add another goat to the harem, we can get together so I can beat your ass. Until then shut the fuck up.

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Re: Gym Etiquette - Was I Wrong Here?
« Reply #441 on: June 10, 2022, 11:38:38 AM »
Please stop with the”give me these hands” nonsense. Sounds so stupid. I’m in mass. So whenever you find your way out this way maybe looking to add another goat to the harem, we can get together so I can beat your ass. Until then shut the fuck up.

I doubt this is the first time you messaged men over the internet asking to 'get together' and do stuff to their asses. I'll be visiting Mass in exactly 57 days from today. Mark it in your calendar because you're getting dropped and stripped naked. NO MORE TALK!

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« Reply #442 on: June 10, 2022, 11:48:40 AM »
I doubt this is the first time you messaged men over the internet asking to 'get together' and do stuff to their asses. I'll be visiting Mass in exactly 57 days from today. Mark it in your calendar because you're getting dropped and stripped naked. NO MORE TALK!

I CANT FUCKING WAIT. 57 days is on the calendar.

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« Reply #443 on: June 10, 2022, 11:57:58 AM »
Cliff's notes for the sub fued in the thread.

you're getting dropped and stripped naked.


I CANT FUCKING WAIT.
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« Reply #444 on: June 10, 2022, 12:00:38 PM »
Cliff's notes for the sub fued in the thread.


Hahahahah fuck you ape, going to train calves.

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« Reply #445 on: June 10, 2022, 12:19:16 PM »
Out of interest,  what is this "something else" you tried and worked?

Who said that eating 1 gram per pound of lean body mass was doing "everything right"? Most old school magazines used to recommend 1 gram per pound of bodyweight (or 2g for every kg of bodyweight plus 20......for those who prefer the metric system).

Even I don't do the 1-gram-per-1-lb LBM thing. In fact, I got my best gains when I did closer to 1.5 grams per 1 lb of bodyweight, in my younger years. I don't need that much anymore.

And therein lies the issue. You got the idea that eating a certain way was doing "everything right" to make gains without steroids. NEWS FLASH!! SO DID I!! I came up during the old Joe Weider 60-30-10 (carbs, protein, and fat, respectively) diet gospel that FLEX and Muscle & Fitness preached almost endlessly.

The difference between you and me is that, when that doing "everything right" didn't work for me, I didn't throw my hands up, declare that "natural bodybuilding SUCKS", and go a-yearnin' for the syringe!!

I tried something else. It worked. And, I achieved the gains I'd hope to make at the time (and beyond) without using anabolics.

Getting ACCUSED of using steroids, when I could barely afford weight gainers and GNC's cheap Milk & Egg protein, pretty much validated that what I did worked.
 

I'm not the one, singing "Nobody-Knows-The-Trouble-I-See" about his physique....YOU ARE!!!

Incidentally, I certainly am NOT 25% bodyfat. Trust me! I've been there before but am nowhere near that now.

Again, the only thing fueling this rant of your is a bug in your head and severe impatience. You brag about how strong you are and how you can make gains in strength (which, in case you forgot, does require gaining some muscle; it's not all just tendon, joint strength, leverage, and technique).

Simply refine your diet when you're looking to get cut and you should be fine. And that simply is eating less. One of the reasons I prefer beef to chicken and ESPECIALLY whole eggs to just egg whites is that it helps me hold on to muscle when I'm losing weight.

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« Reply #446 on: June 10, 2022, 12:22:06 PM »

Hahahahah fuck you ape, going to train calves.

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« Reply #447 on: June 10, 2022, 01:17:06 PM »

Hahahahah fuck you ape, going to train calfs.
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« Reply #448 on: June 10, 2022, 01:27:02 PM »
So 18 pages and matt is still a chicken shit of a little bit of test?

...Explains a lot about him...

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« Reply #449 on: June 10, 2022, 07:44:43 PM »
Out of interest,  what is this "something else" you tried and worked?

1) Scrapped the "60-30-10" diet thing and replaced chicken with beef, ate whole eggs or rather drank them, mixed with milk. As far as protein went, it was 1.5 grams per pound of bodyweight (3 g per 2 kg of bodyweight + 25, for those who prefer the metric system)  ;D.

2) No more training to failure. My nervous system really thanked me for that one.

3) Rather than ponder over the myriad of split routines, I kept it simple. Upper body (Monday and Thursdays); Legs (Tuesdays and Fridays)....hat tip to former Mr. Universe, Bill Pearl.

4) The only supplements I could afford, for the most parts, were weight gainers and protein powders. So, I ate half my calories and drank the other half. Even though I did blend my eggs with milk, I counted that as a regular meal since it was made of regular food.