Chris Bumstead: What I Eat to Die Within a Decade

[Matt]

Italians don't eat tomatos?

They do where I come from.

I may have worded that slightly poorly. What I meant:

Italians - who lots of tomatoes  - apparently don't eat the skins or the seeds.

I had never heard that either. I'll check at my grandmother's 90th birthday party at the end of the month.

Apparently the skins and seeds are "toxic", but tomatoes themselves are good.

[wes]

Wes - can we get this guy a FUCKFACE!!!!!!111111 or what?  Standards are slipping in this place... 


Yes.

Goodbye Matt 

[King Shizzo]

Fuck off. He's a stupid, bald, rat-faced cunt who spends his time rambling around the woods by himself after escaping from the psych ward.

Don't bring Wiggs into this.

[slow and steady]

Apparently the skins and seeds are "toxic", but tomatoes themselves are good.

It's called deadly nightshade

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atropa_belladonna

When tomatoes were first introduced into Europe around the 1500's they were considered poisonous, and later in America the same attitude was held.

Tomatoes only became popular in the USA cos of the Civil War when people were DESPERATE for food.  So out of life and death desperation they have lived on to this day on people's plates.

[slow and steady]

Food that people have been eating for thousands of years is now toxic.

that is where you would be wrong...

[Humble Narcissist]

that is where you would be wrong...

So, what extreme diet do you eat?

[slow and steady]

So, what extreme diet do you eat?

i eat the same diet my human ancestors ate whenever they had access and opportunity to eat

primarily meat and animal fat

i am open to eating a small amount of fruit when it is in season (but rarely do)

if i am facing starvation i will eat plants

[Marty Champions]

Part of why I consistently under-eat is because I get caught up in this "every food is toxic, according to diet extremists" stuff, Christopher.

Though I've had experience to know that my blood work and all health markers are perfect [optimal] at 1,200 to 1,500 calories daily.

No worries there.

But when I go below 1,200 or maybe 1,100...problems happen [for me = high TSH].

So I tend to agree that we only NEED around 850 calories a day for optimal health. HOWEVER...unless we select carefully, we may end up nutrient deprived.

I think I was slightly.

Of course, I'm not talking about bodybuilding - just health.

I'll be aiming for 1,500 calories daily, most likely

I guess truthfully, I don't have time to research 50 studies on whether salads are "toxic", so at some point I need to just trust people.

matt arent u a sedentary guy like wes both of your diets are the same. Sedentary life kills the metabolism and hormones

[joswift]

i eat the same diet my human ancestors ate whenever they had access and opportunity to eat

primarily meat and animal fat

i am open to eating a small amount of fruit when it is in season (but rarely do)

if i am facing starvation i will eat plants

People forget that plants have evolved for millions of years not to be eaten.
Some are toxic, some have almost no nutritional value

Meat on the other hand hasnt

[bhank]

Part of why I consistently under-eat is because I get caught up in this "every food is toxic, according to diet extremists" stuff, Christopher.

Though I've had experience to know that my blood work and all health markers are perfect [optimal] at 1,200 to 1,500 calories daily.

No worries there.

But when I go below 1,200 or maybe 1,100...problems happen [for me = high TSH].

So I tend to agree that we only NEED around 850 calories a day for optimal health. HOWEVER...unless we select carefully, we may end up nutrient deprived.

I think I was slightly.

Of course, I'm not talking about bodybuilding - just health.

I'll be aiming for 1,500 calories daily, most likely

I guess truthfully, I don't have time to research 50 studies on whether salads are "toxic", so at some point I need to just trust people.

Fucking insanity

[Matt]

It's called deadly nightshade

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atropa_belladonna

When tomatoes were first introduced into Europe around the 1500's they were considered poisonous, and later in America the same attitude was held.

Tomatoes only became popular in the USA cos of the Civil War when people were DESPERATE for food.  So out of life and death desperation they have lived on to this day on people's plates.

Interesting. I had no idea. Thank you for the information.

[Matt]

matt arent u a sedentary guy like wes both of your diets are the same. Sedentary life kills the metabolism and hormones

Yes, I'm sedentary. I live off investments, and won't ever do a fucking thing until the ridiculous PC horseshit goes away, and my criminal government stops breaking the law. I'd rather be in jail. And I very well may end up in there.

[Matt]

Fucking insanity

I said we only need 850 calories daily for optimal health. I didn't say for bodybuilding - which, by the way, is nothing close to optimal health.

[Phantom Spunker]

God, I just accidentally ate some tomatoes. With the ambulance waiting times as bad as they are, I'm a goner.

[Rambone]

God, I just accidentally ate some tomatoes. With the ambulance waiting times as bad as they are, I'm a goner.

PIP (poisoned in peace)

[bhank]

I said we only need 850 calories daily for optimal health. I didn't say for bodybuilding - which, by the way, is nothing close to optimal health.

Again fucking Insanity you do realize 2-3k calories a day is what is recommended for an adult male. Who the fuck is telling you that you can live off 850 calories a day? Where are you getting this horseshit?

[Matt]

God, I just accidentally ate some tomatoes. With the ambulance waiting times as bad as they are, I'm a goner.

LOL.

I need to stop listening to anyone on dieting advice. Do these assholes really need to use descriptions like "toxic" to describe lettuce? Really?

I maintain that a caloric deficit is healthy. Possibly because food does have bad things in it, and too much of it leads to obesity and diabetes, etc.

[Matt]

Again fucking Insanity you do realize 2-3k calories a day is what is recommended for an adult male. Who the fuck is telling you that you can live off 850 calories a day? Where are you getting this horseshit?

Health Canada.

You don't NEED 2-3K calories daily.

You only NEED 850 well-selected calories to maintain optimal health.

Though that requires excellent food selection.

I was eating 1,000 to 1,100 calories daily for the past eight years. But I was clearly deprived in iodine, or something else that I needed for optimal thyroid health.

I'm not talking about what the food companies want us to eat. I'm simply saying:

We only need 850 calories, properly selected, to maintain optimal health.

If we're talking just SURVIVAL, you could probably go as low as 300 calories - but don't quote me on that.

You're talking about recommendations for living in Western society. I'm talking about merely maintaining optimal health.

You do NOT need 2-3K calories for that. Arguably, caloric deficits are much healthier.

The #1 environmental factor that people who live to age 110+ have in common is caloric restriction.

[wes]

matt arent u a sedentary guy like wes both of your diets are the same. Sedentary life kills the metabolism and hormones

I`m retired....train 6 days a week and take long walks daily and do all kinds of stuff ,how is that sedentary.....should I be building skyscrapers or climbing Mt. Everest.....I`d bet I`m far more active than you are?

At least I don`t eat grass clippings with Colt 45 as a chaser. 

[wes]

I love fucking tomatoes almost as much as Kai Green loves fucking grapefruit.

[Matt]

I love fucking tomatoes almost as much as Kai Green loves fucking grapefruit.

Is your wife aware of this, wes? 

[Matt]

Garlic is toxic too? So you'll get bad breath and die, if you eat it? 

[wes]

Is your wife aware of this, wes? 

Mums the word !! 

[Humble Narcissist]

Again fucking Insanity you do realize 2-3k calories a day is what is recommended for an adult male. Who the fuck is telling you that you can live off 850 calories a day? Where are you getting this horseshit?

Mentzer ate 800 cals a day and used meth for his contest diet. He of course was insane.

[YngiweRhoads]

Harvard researcher on longevity and diet. His lab at Harvard is devoted to researching why we age and how to slow its effects.