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JackTheRipper

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so now you know !
« on: July 16, 2022, 05:17:34 AM »
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Re: so now you know !
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2022, 05:19:04 AM »
I got to the 11.00 mark & lost my mind  :D

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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2022, 09:38:44 AM »
3-5 is optimal.

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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2022, 09:46:07 AM »
3-5 is optimal.
Sets or raining days?  I actually prefer lower sets but more intensity.

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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2022, 09:48:30 AM »
Sets or raining days?  I actually prefer lower sets but more intensity.
Sets. The meta analysis shows that most gains are produced after 3 sets. 5 sets produces the most, but only slightly better than 3. There have been dozens of studies that confirmed what almost everyone was teaching in the 1930's on bodybuilding through trial and error.

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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2022, 09:56:15 AM »
Sets. The meta analysis shows that most gains are produced after 3 sets. 5 sets produces the most, but only slightly better than 3. There have been dozens of studies that confirmed what almost everyone was teaching in the 1930's on bodybuilding through trial and error.
I agree on 3 sets but also in the video they talk anbout rest times between sets. I think this is important because if you do say 2 all out sets as i do sometimes (no i´m not a Mentzer Guru) you need rest to hit that intensity. also multiple 6 day  workouts will only works with less sets & intensity
you see this in the Wes workouts, supersets, nice but not high muscle building intensity.

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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2022, 09:59:16 AM »
I agree on 3 sets but also in the video they talk anbout rest times between sets. I think this is important because if you do say 2 all out sets as i do sometimes (no i´m not a Mentzer Guru) you need rest to hit that intensity. also multiple 6 day  workouts will only works with less sets & intensity
you see this in the Wes workouts, supersets, nice but not high muscle building intensity.
What is your definition of intensity and why is intensity so important?

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Re: so now you know !
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2022, 10:00:45 AM »
What is your definition of intensity and why is intensity so important?
If i need to answer this then i suggest you find another sport ::)

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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2022, 10:05:58 AM »
If i need to answer this then i suggest you find another sport ::)
Intensity is % of 1 rep max but bodybuilders seem to think it's training "hard" or to failure. Training to failure is not optimal at all.

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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2022, 10:17:12 AM »
Intensity is % of 1 rep max but bodybuilders seem to think it's training "hard" or to failure. Training to failure is not optimal at all.
I think you are like most people & think straight away of Heavy Duty training & negative only reps..extended sets..etc  but the fact is buddy you need to have intensity to grow. Now Intensity is reaching muscular failure or pretty damn close. Depending on the weight this can be various reps.

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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2022, 10:19:50 AM »
Intensity is % of 1 rep max but bodybuilders seem to think it's training "hard" or to failure. Training to failure is not optimal at all.

your 1 rep max can vary from day to day

I day you may do 400 on the bench but then may not get 380 for the next two weeks

your muscles dont know what a 1 rep max is

I have no idea what my one rep max is because Im not risking injuring myself trying to find out

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« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2022, 10:21:19 AM »
your 1 rep max can vary from day to day

I day you may do 400 on the bench but then may not get 380 for the next two weeks
A very good point !

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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2022, 10:26:25 AM »
your 1 rep max can vary from day to day

I day you may do 400 on the bench but then may not get 380 for the next two weeks

your muscles dont know what a 1 rep max is

I have no idea what my one rep max is because Im not risking injuring myself trying to find out
Tell that to the 80's Bulgarian weightlifting team. Olympic lifters and powerlifters use % of 1 rep max everyday in their training and don't have this problem.

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« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2022, 10:32:35 AM »
Tell that to the 80's Bulgarian weightlifting team. Olympic lifters and powerlifters use % of 1 rep max everyday in their training and don't have this problem.
are any of the Bulgarian weightlifters 57?

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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2022, 10:33:33 AM »
Tell that to the 80's Bulgarian weightlifting team. Olympic lifters and powerlifters use % of 1 rep max everyday in their training and don't have this problem.
Maybe you´re on the wrong forum, we are talking about muscle building here.. not big guts & 1x max deadlifts. nor are we in the 80s. Do or did 80s bulgarian weightlifters/powerlifters look like a Bodybuilder? sure some might not be fat buckets of shit but most in the 80s..were !

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« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2022, 11:45:20 PM »
Maybe you´re on the wrong forum, we are talking about muscle building here.. not big guts & 1x max deadlifts. nor are we in the 80s. Do or did 80s bulgarian weightlifters/powerlifters look like a Bodybuilder? sure some might not be fat buckets of shit but most in the 80s..were !
Bodybuilders don't have huge muscles without steroids but you know that.

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« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2022, 11:56:11 PM »
That you bro?

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« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2022, 12:09:40 AM »
I can't understand any of that gibberish.

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« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2022, 12:12:34 AM »
Bodybuilders don't have huge muscles without steroids but you know that.
Yeah but bodybuilders looked good where as Bulgarian powerlifters took boat loads of drugs & still looked like fat toads. Funny that  :D

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« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2022, 12:22:57 AM »
Yeah but bodybuilders looked good where as Bulgarian powerlifters took boat loads of drugs & still looked like fat toads. Funny that  :D
Only the heavyweights were fat. Most Olympic lifters are very muscular and don't even train for hypertrophy.

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« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2022, 03:28:57 AM »
Only the heavyweights were fat. Most Olympic lifters are very muscular and don't even train for hypertrophy.
some truth in what you are saying but please don´t accuse bodybuilders of having big muscles because of "only juicing" The Bulgarians are doing very well themselves  :D  "we did not know there was steroids in our pills"    :D....LMFAO   

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« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2022, 03:41:47 AM »
I can't understand any of that gibberish.

Exactly, foolish studies, only to be outdone by the next one.

Just train as you like and do it HARD.
Results come, everything works...

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« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2022, 03:45:36 AM »
Exactly, foolish studies, only to be outdone by the next one.

Just train as you like and do it HARD.
Results come, everything works...
just for your info, i think his ref is to the video of the fat Paki.  ::)

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Re: so now you know !
« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2022, 03:50:12 AM »
Legs respond best to higher reps.

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Re: so now you know !
« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2022, 09:10:35 AM »