This post is NOT new. We responded to it previously. The poster also provided additional information about himself that you did not include in your quote--things that mattered!
Here was my original reponse to him. By the way, it turned out to NOT be something he wanted to hear:
So, in a nutshell, Chino believes his present situation, renal failure, was the direct result of using AAS. His creatinine level is markedly elevated (1200) and is awaiting further work-up. His story is unfortunate, but I think we can sort out some of the info through what he posted about himself and his experiences with gear.
1. The compounds. He listed cycles that contained test prop (750/wk), deca (300/wk), dbol (25/d), tren (75 eod) and anavar (30/d). Although he doesn't list the specific cycles, he comments that he did not use these compounds all at one time. I think it is fair to say that the dosages are reasonable, and certainly in line with what many here use and recommend. What he does not state is if the AAS were pharmaceutical-grade or home-brewed.
2. Risk factors. He stated that his grandfather is presently on dialysis for kidney failure. He states that he had rather wide fluctuations in weight, up to 268 lbs. He himself describes his look as "...the huge puffy type with bad calves..." (gotta love the honesty, there, actually). He lists some sides, namely "...the worst I ever had happen was some high BP and liver enzymes...". He also admits to a history of recreational drug use, including cocaine, pot and alcohol. His protein intake, I would say, is typical for the average BB, at 250-350mg protein intake per day. He describes his training style as intense. He drinks 1-1 1/2 gallons of water per day.
We all know that there are some very serious and very real risk factors associated with the use of AAS. Most directly, I think it is fair to say that hepato(liver)toxicity stands out as one of the greatest DIRECT health risks associated with the use of gear, especially with oral compounds. Most AAS have not been shown to have a direct impact on renal function (there was a buzz awhile ago about tren, but most now agree that this may have been more strongly linked to its common preparation in underground labs), although secondary effects can certainly tax the kidneys to a great degree. Probably the greatest of all is hypertension (high BP). AAS lead to an increase in water and sodium retention through several different mechanisms, which can cause significant BP elevation. For example, deca metabolites are aldosterone agonists. High BP can result in significant damage to the kidneys.
On the flip side to this, I think we should take into account the fact that AAS, most notably deca, has been used to combat malnutrition, anemia and hypoalbuminemia in dialysis and chronic renal patients. The medical community would not likely continue this practice if it was strongly felt that AAS directly caused further kidney damage.
Chino, I think you have assumed that AAS directly caused your present renal crisis. You have, in effect, done what the media always does when a gear-user has health problems. For some reason we as a society want to point to these people and blame the juice. It helps other justify there non-gear existence (often while they continue to smoke, drink, liposuck and beat their wives--but that seems to be OK).
You clearly have listed a lifestyle that may have had much more to do with your problems than the gear alone. You have a genetic predisposition to CRF. You state you had high BP and corroborate this with your description of your "puffy look." This tells me you were a water-retaining monster. You were probably often overweight (admit it, you probably were). You used coke which further damages the heart, blood vessels and elevates BP. You had a high protein intake. Perhaps you also used megadosages of creatine. Your gear may have come from UGLs (you can speak on this), which are known to have high levels of very toxic contaminants.
Let's face it. Gear was probably one part of a larger lifestyle that has brought you down. We talk about this on this board all the time. If I had familial hypertension or early heart disease in my family, I wouldn't use gear. If my blood pressure so much as elevated a little while on cycle, I would take antihypertensives and check it frequently. I check my liver enzymes frequently. I protect my liver function with tationil. I moderate my water intake in relation to the color of my piss due to my high nitrogen load. I want to see clear piss--no yellow--or I increase it (always over 1- 1 1/2 gal water per day). I take niacin and fish oils to keep my cholesterol down and my LDL/HDL ratios in check...
You gotta THINK, man. Use your fu*king head. Plan it out. Completely. Every angle...every detail...
I feel for you. Please let us know how it goes from here.
