Question for my most knowledgeable Getbigger pals

[Kwon]

What is the most effective and strongest painkiller there is (that also has a high risk of getting addicted to?)

[wes]

 Dilaudid

[Freemason]

Fentanyl is more powerful as well as faster acting than hydromorphone (Dilaudid). Hydromorphone is longer lasting though so more effective for pain management where Fentanyl is better for emergency administration.

Dilaudid is about twice the strength of morphine. Fentanyl is 100 times the strength of morphine to give you an idea of the potency. Both are similarly addictive.

Hydromorphone is an opioid derivative where Fentanyl is completely synthetic requiring no opiates.

I have taken Dilaudid and it is a very impressive sensation. I have never received Fentanyl but administer it relatively frequently.

Both pale in comparison to Carfentanil. That’s generally used to sedated large mammals.

[Kwon]

So it's either Fentanyl or Dilaudid?

Which has less risk? (for a human) I am not going to sedate large mammals with Carfentanil

[Freemason]

Well now you are asking the opposite question?

Do you want a low risk painkiller or did you want the most powerful?

Lowest risk I would say tramadol.

[wes]

Demerol was good but they don`t use it anymore as far as I know.

[Kwon]

Well now you are asking the opposite question?

Do you want a low risk painkiller or did you want the most powerful?

Lowest risk I would say tramadol.

Well, actually, i'd like the most powerful but not sure if the benefit outweighs the risk


So in order of Power (and Risk) is this correct?

Fentanyl (most powerful with most risk)
Dilaudid
Demerol
Tramadol

[Freemason]

Still used quite frequently Wes. It has a real tendency to cause nausea, so much there is a version combined with promethazine I believe called meperadine.

[Freemason]

Well, actually, i'd like the most powerful but not sure if the benefit outweighs the risk


So in order of Power (and Risk) is this correct?

Fentanyl (most powerful with most risk)
Dilaudid
Demerol
Tramadol

Of those four yes, not a fan of Demerol for earlier stated reason. You would likely be fine with a simple OxyCodone for strength and relative safety. It has Tylenol combined with a morphine derivative and short term is quite safe.

[Kwon]

Of those four yes, not a fan of Demerol for earlier stated reason. You would likely be fine with a simple OxyCodone for strength and relative safety. It has Tylenol combined with a morphine derivative and short term is quite safe.

Thanks Freemason!

Will add OxyCodone to the list of prospect

[wes]

Still used quite frequently Wes. It has a real tendency to cause nausea, so much there is a version combined with promethazine I believe called meperadine.

OK, thanks for that...I had no clue.

They gave it to me years ago when I broke three ribs in a fall on slippery stair covered in a powdery snow.....I couldn`t stand up straight and had to walk like Quasimodo.....once I got the shot of Demerol,I walked out of their strutting like a kid that just got his first piece of ass.....I was higher than a kite and feeling no pain whatsoever. 

[funk51]

Dilaudid

   that's the one.      Hydromorphone
Brand name: Dilaudid
Narcotic
It can treat moderate to severe pain.
Controlled substance
High risk for addiction and dependence. Can cause respiratory distress and death when taken in high doses or when combined with other substances, especially alcohol or other illicit drugs such as heroin or cocaine.  good stuff

[falco]

They also cause erectile disfunction.

Just sayin'

[wes]

They also cause erectile disfunction.

Just sayin'

!
In the immortal words of Eddie Murphy....."My dick gets hard if the wind blows" !! 

[IroNat]

Aspirin.

[webstar]

Bhanks, should know.

will wait for his elaborate pain killer story.

[Mothballs]

[LurkerNoMore]

Waiting for the resident dopehead / liar ESF to arrive and put this issue to bed.

[Darren Avey]

Pcp

[GymnJuice]

Probably fentanyl but it is not an easy answer for how the question is phrased.

[Griffith]

R.I.P.

[El Diablo Blanco]

fentanyl was designed for animals not humans.

Oxy 120s were nuts

[joswift]

where is esfitness when you need him

[Freemason]

fentanyl was designed for animals not humans.

Oxy 120s were nuts

Jannsen developed Fentanyl for people. Not animals. And the 80 OxyContins were much more powerful as a perceived dose because the 120s are extended release only. You can circumvent the ER by crushing them and snorting. I don’t recommend that though.

[El Diablo Blanco]

where is esfitness when you need him