Jerry Ward Has Passed

[The Keto Kid]

Palumbo can’t be too far behind

Palumbo rarely leaves his house, I think he's seriously afraid of covid, he has a defibrillator in his chest, and I just get the vibe he's scared shitless of it. He never goes to the Olympia or Arnold anymore, always has some sort of excuse, yet sends Sid and Aceto to do the coverage.

[Matt]

Palumbo rarely leaves his house, I think he's seriously afraid of covid, he has a defibrillator in his chest, and I just get the vibe he's scared shitless of it. He never goes to the Olympia or Arnold anymore, always has some sort of excuse, yet sends Sid and Aceto to do the coverage.

Dave is 53 years old.

Maybe he should look at the mortality data and stop worrying. Unless he literally has 5-10 underlying diseases, he needs to stop worrying.

God, Dave reminds me of me. Total hypochondriac health nut, yet went through a bad period of his life which seems to haunt him.

For me, it was the pandemic gym closure period. For Dave, it was his competitive heyday. He still lives in fear of long-term consequences of the actions he took back then, yet as far as I know, he's been doing everything possible to be healthy since then.

Am I missing something? Does Dave have any serious underlying disease to worry about Covid over?

In Canada, 1,932 of 5,130,515 people aged 50-59 have died so far.

That means 99.96% in Dave's age group have survived. So roughly 1 in 2,500 who are Dave's age have died. Even fewer for Dave's specific age, as Dave is in his earlier fifties, and most 50-59 aged people who died were 55-59.

The American deaths are higher...only because the definition of a Covid death in the USA is way more loose - a person can literally commit suicide two weeks after getting Covid and that's considered a Covid death.

Even then, 99.92% of Americans aged 50-59 have survived the pandemic so far.

Does Dave think he's literally the least healthy person of 1,250 or 2,500 people his age?

All Dave is doing by avoiding Covid is making himself more likely to die of it later. He will eventually get it - and if he's older, he will be more likely to be harmed by it. Unless an actual vaccine comes out while Dave waits.

That being said, I would hate to encourage Dave to stop worrying about Covid, only for him to get it and die.

In the end, the only sure way to not get it is to hide away from the world.

[trapz101]

Just yesterday he uploaded a video on his channel with a very ironic title

RIP

Just watched this yesterday...actually been watching his videos to pass time during my cardio sessions lately..PIP

[Gym-Rat]

All the YouTube donkeys, scrambling to get videos out, about their "close friend" Jerry Ward's passing. 
Trying to be first, trying to cash in on death.

Pure filth 

[Rusty Trombone]

Never heard of him.

[Taffin]

Was MCing shows all this week, had rib/chest pain for the majority of it, but didn't check it out. Died in his sleep. No Vax, did have a drug use history, I think smack, but was clean the last few years.

I avoid (what I consider to be) unnecessary interactions with Doctors as much as the next deluded tough guy.  But I don't think ignoring chest pains for several days is the smartest of moves...

That said, when I saw the thread title, I'll confess that the first thing I thought was accidental overdose (fentanyl) as I thought he was still occasionally shooting heroin, old school style?

Dead either way
PIP

(Anyone have him in the Dead Pool 22?)

[affeman]

Dave is 53 years old.

Maybe he should look at the mortality data and stop worrying. Unless he literally has 5-10 underlying diseases, he needs to stop worrying.

Well, someone who abused the sh*t out of his body for decades with Hardcore BB drugs and narcotics, overeating and stomping around  @300 pds for years should definitely be worried at 53 years old

[Matt]

Well, someone who abused the sh*t out of his body for decades with Hardcore BB drugs and narcotics, overeating and stomping around  @300 pds for years should definitely be worried at 53 years old

Very good post, affeman.

That being said, I don't recall Dave Palumbo using anything close to "brave" doses since 2011. If I recall correctly, he was carrying decent size [maybe 240-lb, while pretty lean] at a Bros Versus Pros contest that Ronnie Coleman attended, which was either 2011 or 2012.

He has been small prior to that [starting around 2009], and small ever since then.

The last time he competed was, I believe, in 2004 at the NPC USA.

He was still pretty massive [offseason, but still pretty lean] in 2007, when I saw him for the first time in at the Arnold Classic, when he was still with MD.

He maintained what size roughly through to the end of the year, and was basically reducing in body weight starting around 2008, and has been a pretty healthy weight since 2009 - again, if I recall correctly on that time as the start date.

So Dave has been basically focused on being light and healthy for over a decade now - closer to 15 years, really.

And Dave didn't just lose a bit of weight - he straight up got almost as small as possible. I don't know what Dave weighs, but he is probably under 200-lb.

I respect that, because Dave is probably the only bodybuilder [aside from Shawn Ray] who basically decided that he doesn't care in the least what anyone thinks of his look - it's JUST about health to him.

So given Dave has focused on health, and being so slim for so long now, why would he be unwell?

I think Nasser El Sonbaty said that Dave used rec drugs in his Bodybuilding.com interviews - did Dave abuse drugs so badly, that his health is still compromised to this day because of it? Has he chemically altered the structure of his heart and/or enlarged his organs so badly, that he has to be this cautious just to give him any chance?

I hope that's not the case. Firstly, because it would be sad for Dave to pass away young after all the effort he has put on his health lately, and it would be sad if the only former massive bodybuilder who adopted healthy habits only did so because he had to. I always thought Dave did that because he wanted to, and that it reflected a lot of confidence on Dave's part.

A 2004 interview with Dave:

https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson65.htm

The last photo is probably close to the weight Dave was when I first saw him, at the 2007 Arnold Classic expo. His handle "Huge285" made sense...he looked to be about 285-lb at 5'10.5".

[affeman]

So Dave has been basically focused on being light and healthy for over a decade now - closer to 15 years, really.

Stop being a fool, that was him only 3-4 years ago, probably still at 220+ and on several compounds of BB drugs

[Matt]

Whoops - my bad...I did not know Dave has papillary thyroid cancer:

https://fitnessvolt.com/dave-palumbo-papillary-thyroid-cancer/

 

That's sad - maybe that's why he's allegedly so concerned about Covid.

[Gym-Rat]

And Dave didn't just lose a bit of weight - he straight up got almost as small as possible. I don't know what Dave weighs, but he is probably under 200-lb.

Dave weighs in the 180's now. Skeleton.
For only the "finishing touch" that gear gives them, it was around 100 lbs of kidney-killing bloat & water. All drugs.
Seems afraid of his own shadow like an old Jewish guy "Oy Vay"   

[Matt]

Stop being a fool, that was him only 3-4 years ago, probably still at 220+ and on several compounds of BB drugs

That was Dave only a few years ago? He does look like he could be 220 there - and he's lean as hell, so he could very well have been on multiple compounds there.

Hm...I was used to seeing him on his podcast/channel, looking closer to 200, thinking maybe he was just on a legit TRT prescription. I don't recall seeing him go up and down in weight like crazy.

Let's hope he puts the heavier cycles behind him, and just focuses on health. He does have three kids, after all.

Also, I made a mistake above: Dave is 54, not 53. He will be turning 55 in the new year. Hopefully he will have many more if he stays focused on health.

[BlackMetallic]

Dave is 53 years old.

Maybe he should look at the mortality data and stop worrying. Unless he literally has 5-10 underlying diseases, he needs to stop worrying.

God, Dave reminds me of me. Total hypochondriac health nut, yet went through a bad period of his life which seems to haunt him.

For me, it was the pandemic gym closure period. For Dave, it was his competitive heyday. He still lives in fear of long-term consequences of the actions he took back then, yet as far as I know, he's been doing everything possible to be healthy since then.

Am I missing something? Does Dave have any serious underlying disease to worry about Covid over?

In Canada, 1,932 of 5,130,515 people aged 50-59 have died so far.

That means 99.96% in Dave's age group have survived. So roughly 1 in 2,500 who are Dave's age have died. Even fewer for Dave's specific age, as Dave is in his earlier fifties, and most 50-59 aged people who died were 55-59.

The American deaths are higher...only because the definition of a Covid death in the USA is way more loose - a person can literally commit suicide two weeks after getting Covid and that's considered a Covid death.

Even then, 99.92% of Americans aged 50-59 have survived the pandemic so far.

Does Dave think he's literally the least healthy person of 1,250 or 2,500 people his age?

All Dave is doing by avoiding Covid is making himself more likely to die of it later. He will eventually get it - and if he's older, he will be more likely to be harmed by it. Unless an actual vaccine comes out while Dave waits.

That being said, I would hate to encourage Dave to stop worrying about Covid, only for him to get it and die.

In the end, the only sure way to not get it is to hide away from the world.

He may knowingly have messed up his immune system

I know a lot of ex heavy drug users that are now very susceptible to colds and the flu

[Humble Narcissist]

Rip liverking

Best to eat olives live 200 more years

Why don't Italians and Greeks live longer?

[affeman]

Why don't Italians and Greeks live longer?

Good Mediterranean climate, sociality, positive attitude to life, outdoorsy.

Diet has hardly anything to do with it.

[Humble Narcissist]

Good Mediterranean climate, sociality, positive attitude to life, outdoorsy.

Diet has hardly anything to do with it.

He said eating olives will make you live 200 years.

[affeman]

He said eating olives will make you live 200 years.

They probably found out in a lab study with cancerous rats administering them doses equivalent to a human eating 220 pds of olives per day....

[Rambone]

Palumbo rarely leaves his house, I think he's seriously afraid of covid, he has a defibrillator in his chest, and I just get the vibe he's scared shitless of it. He never goes to the Olympia or Arnold anymore, always has some sort of excuse, yet sends Sid and Aceto to do the coverage.

What a pussy

[wes]

Very good post, affeman.

That being said, I don't recall Dave Palumbo using anything close to "brave" doses since 2011. If I recall correctly, he was carrying decent size [maybe 240-lb, while pretty lean] at a Bros Versus Pros contest that Ronnie Coleman attended, which was either 2011 or 2012.

He has been small prior to that [starting around 2009], and small ever since then.

The last time he competed was, I believe, in 2004 at the NPC USA.

He was still pretty massive [offseason, but still pretty lean] in 2007, when I saw him for the first time in at the Arnold Classic, when he was still with MD.

He maintained what size roughly through to the end of the year, and was basically reducing in body weight starting around 2008, and has been a pretty healthy weight since 2009 - again, if I recall correctly on that time as the start date.

So Dave has been basically focused on being light and healthy for over a decade now - closer to 15 years, really.

And Dave didn't just lose a bit of weight - he straight up got almost as small as possible. I don't know what Dave weighs, but he is probably under 200-lb.

I respect that, because Dave is probably the only bodybuilder [aside from Shawn Ray] who basically decided that he doesn't care in the least what anyone thinks of his look - it's JUST about health to him.

So given Dave has focused on health, and being so slim for so long now, why would he be unwell?

I think Nasser El Sonbaty said that Dave used rec drugs in his Bodybuilding.com interviews - did Dave abuse drugs so badly, that his health is still compromised to this day because of it? Has he chemically altered the structure of his heart and/or enlarged his organs so badly, that he has to be this cautious just to give him any chance?

I hope that's not the case. Firstly, because it would be sad for Dave to pass away young after all the effort he has put on his health lately, and it would be sad if the only former massive bodybuilder who adopted healthy habits only did so because he had to. I always thought Dave did that because he wanted to, and that it reflected a lot of confidence on Dave's part.

A 2004 interview with Dave:

https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson65.htm

The last photo is probably close to the weight Dave was when I first saw him, at the 2007 Arnold Classic expo. His handle "Huge285" made sense...he looked to be about 285-lb at 5'10.5".

I used to see Dave at a zillion contests, one year at the New Englands he was a vascular and I meal a truly veiny SOB while weighing 315 pounds.

[The Keto Kid]

What a pussy

he is, and I miss his Olympia and Arnold wrap-ups, those were always great. This one was the best.

[nerdoldnerdith]

Damn, I didn't see this one coming. Jerry always seemed to be one of the more level-headed guys when it came to drugs and seemed to be taking good care of his health. Any word on what caused this?

[a_pupil]

Damn, I didn't see this one coming. Jerry always seemed to be one of the more level-headed guys when it came to drugs and seemed to be taking good care of his health. Any word on what caused this?

Heart attack. He had chest pain for a few days but he was travelling so was probably reluctant to get himself checked out until he got home.

[Matt]

He may knowingly have messed up his immune system

I know a lot of ex heavy drug users that are now very susceptible to colds and the flu

That makes sense as a possibility.

If Dave has reason to believe he is particularly vulnerable to respiratory pathogens, he needs to master a form of self-isolation that is a bit more practical. I mean, heck - does he hang out with his children? If yes, then he is essentially exposed to their entire classroom.

Dave should just avoid people with obviously clear high viral loads for colds or flus, invest in a proper fitted N-95 mask [which doesn't offer much protection to the WEARER, but is much better then the flimsy fabric masks], order curbside pickup, and generally avoid crowds, where possible.

This will minimize his exposure to colds and flus.

Grantee, such extreme measures will also prevent Dave from maintaining robust natural immunity. But then - if his immune system is entirely shot, maybe he has to live like this.

Dave has been so focused on downsizing and putting bodybuilding in his rearview, that it makes me wonder if he ever had a serious health scare.

But I don't know. IIRC, Nasser said that Dave used a lot of drugs - both bodybuilding drugs and rec drugs. I really have no idea if that's true or not. But I didn't get impression that Nasser was lying - just what he was bitter, in the five years or so leading up to his death.

We get a lot of sad stories in bodybuilding.

[The Keto Kid]

He probably had covid at some point which may have increased his clotting factor/d dimer score, he's most likely on trt (which thickens blood) he most likely took a flight to be part of the broadcast team for the Masters nationals in Pittsburgh, if your susceptible for clots flying at high altitude will definitely be extremely dangerous. So he most likely got a blood clot and ended up dieing of a heart attack due to it.

[Matt]

Dave weighs in the 180's now. Skeleton.
For only the "finishing touch" that gear gives them, it was around 100 lbs of kidney-killing bloat & water. All drugs.
Seems afraid of his own shadow like an old Jewish guy "Oy Vay"   

IMO, most men around 5'10" are going to basically be a clean 180 off gear.

A fellow at my gym is around 5'11" and 250-260. He's big, to be sure, but if you consider his body fat percentage, I can't fathom him being 220 and any leaner than me - that's compared to my 203 right now.

I think perma-bulking is so common because natural bodybuilding operates at a snail's pace, so you have guys wanting success in it, so they dirty-bulk up to 250-lb and stay at that weight, when they'd probably be 220 at 15% body fat, and realistically, wouldn't even be 200 if they truly cut.

But how much pure muscle mass would a natural bodybuilder be gaining in a year?

I'd say NOT 5-lb per year. Less.

Maybe 5-lb of relatively clean mass - but not pure muscle mass. Not among people who have been at the gym for a while.

Hence dirty bulking and perma-bulkers come about.

I hope Palumbo is just being a hypochondriac, but it sounds like he may have had a scare at some point.

He's applied his high IQ Jewish mind into the business side of bodybuilding. He put competitive behind him when he realized he wasn't likely to turn pro.

Hopefully, he can live the rest of his days in good health, and for a while yet. Though if he's hiding something, then I wouldn't be able to hazard a guess how much time he has left.