Author Topic: BREAKING NEWS!!! Ortiz OUT, Griffin IN (Read 10912 times)

Scimowser · « **on:** April 25, 2006, 10:57:00 AM »

Dana White has announced that Tito ortiz has pulled out of the fight with Ken Shamrock, and that Forrest Griffin has been drafted in as his replacement. Its going off on July 8th at the Mandalay Bay. The main event id the rubber match between Sylvia and Arlovski

When asked why, Dana simply said "its always something with tito"

Dana was also critical of the judging for the Ortiz/Griffin fight saying judge Abe Balardo should never score another MMA fight again (he was the guy who scored it 30-27 for OrTito)

an123 · « **Reply #1 on:** April 25, 2006, 11:01:13 AM »

More like Boring news...

Really does anyone want to see Shamrock fight again? I know I sure as hell don't.

OKMike · « **Reply #2 on:** April 25, 2006, 11:08:22 AM »

My guess is that Tito will have surgery on his knee and need to recuperate it for a while.

Scimowser · « **Reply #3 on:** April 25, 2006, 11:20:01 AM »

Griffin went to Dana and requested the fight, Dana openly said he thought Forrest beat Tito. They both get what they want and Ken unfortunately gets a retirement fight against a man who will own him soooooooooo badly. And Ken is one of my favourite fighters ever. I wish he would have retired gracefully with a legend, now hes a washed up has been in MMA who sticks around for a pay check he doesnt deserve

staynatural · « **Reply #4 on:** April 25, 2006, 01:30:50 PM »

Quote from: Scimowser on April 25, 2006, 11:20:01 AM

Griffin went to Dana and requested the fight, Dana openly said he thought Forrest beat Tito. They both get what they want and Ken unfortunately gets a retirement fight against a man who will own him soooooooooo badly. And Ken is one of my favourite fighters ever. I wish he would have retired gracefully with a legend, now hes a washed up has been in MMA who sticks around for a pay check he doesnt deserve

Yup, yup...like Marino sticking around waayyy too long.

*ChuteBoxe* · « **Reply #5 on:** April 25, 2006, 02:19:32 PM »

Quote from: an123 on April 25, 2006, 11:01:13 AM

More like Boring news...

I agree, plus this story broke a week ago. Shammy should hang up his muttonchops and find an office job.

Earl1972 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 25, 2006, 08:32:44 PM »

why wouldn't ken just wait for tito to heal up?

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Scimowser · « **Reply #7 on:** April 26, 2006, 01:34:36 AM »

he should retire and become a trainer, i.e. Pat Miletich. He must know within himself that he'll never be competitive again

texasRUSH · « **Reply #8 on:** April 26, 2006, 05:51:43 AM »

it's a fight...

between two guys we all like to watch

it's what we're here for...

so lets see some ass beating!

and i honestly wonder how this one will go too..forrest will bangadadang on his face..but is he good enough to beat ken?

Scimowser · « **Reply #9 on:** April 26, 2006, 09:30:46 AM »

Ken is nothing in this day and age, whereas Forrest is one of the next big things in UFC. Ken will be stopped in the 1st round. I hate saying it but hes not even competitive anymore. He KO'd Kimo but thats it

texasRUSH · « **Reply #10 on:** April 26, 2006, 09:42:31 AM »

but the question is

will you still pay to watch it? thats' what dana is bankin on!

Capt._America · « **Reply #11 on:** April 26, 2006, 11:26:38 AM »

Last time I saw,at the fight, Tito said he was hurt and may need surgery, Dana needs to shut the fuq up, his boy got beat, Griffin did not win that fight, most of the punches he threw were blocked and got his ass handed to him in the first round, should have been 10-8, Griffin even knows he lost, he said it, what's Dana afraid of Tito may start winning some fights, the UFC needs guys like him, the bad boys, not the clean cut wanna be's

bigbalddaddy · « **Reply #12 on:** April 26, 2006, 02:26:20 PM »

Quote from: Capt._America on April 26, 2006, 11:26:38 AM

Last time I saw,at the fight, Tito said he was hurt and may need surgery, Dana needs to shut the fuq up, his boy got beat, Griffin did not win that fight, most of the punches he threw were blocked and got his ass handed to him in the first round, should have been 10-8, Griffin even knows he lost, he said it, what's Dana afraid of Tito may start winning some fights, the UFC needs guys like him, the bad boys, not the clean cut wanna be's

and who would that be?

torquemada · « **Reply #13 on:** April 26, 2006, 04:11:00 PM »

Quote from: Capt._America on April 26, 2006, 11:26:38 AM

Tito said he was hurt and may need surgery, Griffin did not win that fight, most of the punches he threw were blocked and got his ass handed to him in the first round, Griffin even knows he lost, he said it,

I think it was close, but Tito edged it out w/ that 3rd round takedown. I think Shammy's going to get a beating here...

stuff81380 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 26, 2006, 07:20:48 PM »

Quote from: Scimowser on April 26, 2006, 01:34:36 AM

he should retire and become a trainer, i.e. Pat Miletich. He must know within himself that he'll never be competitive again

I read this and the first thing that came to mind is who would pay that man to be there coach?

He sat there on the show and said i don't know BJJ so I'm not going to teach it to you. So if he cant do that why would i want him to coach me? I don't need a coach to show me how to get punched in the face and that is about the only thing he does well right now.

Scimowser · « **Reply #15 on:** April 27, 2006, 02:59:16 AM »

fuck BJJ, its not the be all and end all. Shamrock is a submissons specialist, a master of his craft. In his prime he could submit you from any position.

He was also world shootfighting champion and world number 1. He can teach you how to strike, how to submit someone and how to manouver yourself into advantageous positions. Just because he is passed his best as afighter dont think that you couldnt benefit from his knowledge. I would be more than willing to pay him to coach me.

Bluto · « **Reply #16 on:** April 27, 2006, 04:16:54 AM »

i dont want to see either shamrock, tito or forrest

OKMike · « **Reply #17 on:** April 27, 2006, 02:06:46 PM »

Quote from: Scimowser on April 27, 2006, 02:59:16 AM

f**k BJJ, its not the be all and end all. Shamrock is a submissons specialist, a master of his craft. In his prime he could submit you from any position.

He was also world shootfighting champion and world number 1. He can teach you how to strike, how to submit someone and how to manouver yourself into advantageous positions. Just because he is passed his best as afighter dont think that you couldnt benefit from his knowledge. I would be more than willing to pay him to coach me.

Exactly! He has had some great fighters come out of the Lion's Den!

stuff81380 · « **Reply #18 on:** April 27, 2006, 07:14:26 PM »

So you guys agree with his coaching style on the show so far?

To me he is soft in his training.

Scimowser · « **Reply #19 on:** April 28, 2006, 02:21:08 PM »

have you seen the training the Lions Den fighters have to go through? If he did that with these guys then they wouldnt make it to the octagon to fight their shadows. Hes easing them in as well as he can

Geo · « **Reply #20 on:** April 28, 2006, 06:22:48 PM »

Quote from: Scimowser on April 28, 2006, 02:21:08 PM

have you seen the training the Lions Den fighters have to go through? If he did that with these guys then they wouldnt make it to the octagon to fight their shadows. Hes easing them in as well as he can

exactly.....

plus tito so far has had the advantage of knowing what fighter is gonna fight next while shammy has to guess until 2 days before the fight.......

my guess is shammy's gonna be more apt to run his guys into the ground once or twice a week as soon as one of his fighters wins and he get's the hammer and get's to pick the next fight

team shamrock has had to drive with blinders on up until this point

knowing the next fight's got to be a hell of advantage if ya think about it

JUSTJAXX · « **Reply #21 on:** April 29, 2006, 01:07:51 AM »

and back again...whats the deal tito??

War-Horse · « **Reply #22 on:** April 29, 2006, 09:13:37 AM »

Shamrock was the King, show some respect. Hes a hell of a coach but limited to what he can do for the cameras.
Dont believe for a moment he doesnt know bjj. He doesnt like to give it any respect because royce used to tie him up all the time in it..........frustrating as hell to a guy who wants to fight, and not just lie there butthugging someone in a pretzel hold.

Ken is a master of all the arts.........its all he thinks about.......FACT.

JKDMan · « **Reply #23 on:** May 03, 2006, 03:13:30 AM »

I'm glad to read Dana was smart enough to see that Forrest won the fight against Tito.

torquemada · « **Reply #24 on:** May 03, 2006, 05:10:31 PM »

Quote from: stuff81380 on April 27, 2006, 07:14:26 PM

So you guys agree with his coaching style on the show so far?

To me he is soft in his training.

I think his logic is that you should be there to fight and not to learn. He seems preoccupied w/ beating Tito vs teaching his guys. It's hard to push guys hard when they have to be ready to fight at any given time...