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Have we been duped?
« on: August 05, 2022, 08:15:40 PM »
Ukraine asking China for help while we give billions to Ukraine for arms and to rebuild while relations between Russia and China grow even tighter after Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan ? Do I have that right?


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Re: Have we been duped?
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2022, 08:55:11 PM »
Ukraine asking China for help while we give billions to Ukraine for arms and to rebuild while relations between Russia and China grow even tighter after Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan ? Do I have that right?

Not farfetched to assume that Ukraine is a grifter looking for the highest bidder.

It's strange on all fronts. The USA and China have friction, yet the USA is sending billions to Ukraine and they have the audacity to attempt to invite China in to help them rebuild?

Moreover, China and Russia have become super cozy and they belong to BRICS together, yet now Ukraine wants to somehow broker a deal with China?

Ukraine sounds like a dirty prostitute that would do anything for money, including playing on both sides of the fence.

Question is whether China will want to get involved with Ukraine at the cost of possibly jeopardizing their Russia alliance. China won't care about the USA's feelings, as what would likely happen is that money sent from the USA (our tax dollars) would likely end up in the hands of China anyway.

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Re: Have we been duped?
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2022, 09:19:40 PM »
Guys, Zelensky is a bigger con man than Fauci.

When this charade is over Fauci will pocket $50,000,000. Zelensky will pocket $500,000,000. It’s a compete con game.
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Re: Have we been duped?
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2022, 09:23:00 PM »
"We"? No.

Zelensky the Ukraine, their puppet government, their nazi regiment all stunk like hot garbage from the start.

Most of the people on getbig noticed the stench immediately.

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Re: Have we been duped?
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2022, 09:28:31 PM »
Ukraine asking China for help while we give billions to Ukraine for arms and to rebuild while relations between Russia and China grow even tighter after Pelosi’s visit to Taiwan ? Do I have that right?

Yeah, 3 days ago Volodymyr contacted China for help against Russia  ;D ;D ;D


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Re: Have we been duped?
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2022, 12:01:31 AM »

But, But... "I stand w/ Ukraine"!!!   LOL   ::) ::) ::)

Libtards, calling them lemmings or sheep is an insult to the animal. Much MUCH dumber than any creature to have ever existed...  LOL

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« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2022, 01:10:08 AM »
"We"? No.

Zelensky the Ukraine, their puppet government, their nazi regiment all stunk like hot garbage from the start.

Most of the people on getbig noticed the stench immediately.
Agreed.

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Re: Have we been duped?
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2022, 01:13:12 AM »
Guys, Zelensky is a bigger con man than Fauci.

When this charade is over Fauci will pocket $50,000,000. Zelensky will pocket $500,000,000. It’s a compete con game.

Fauci is a monster. The amount of death and suffering that he is DIRECTLY responsible for is horrific. One of the most evil men in history.

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Re: Have we been duped?
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2022, 01:21:20 AM »
All our lives.

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Re: Have we been duped?
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2022, 01:37:10 AM »
Having Putin severely weaken the Azov Battalion was the best thing for Zelensky’s future in Ukraine

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Re: Have we been duped?
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2022, 04:10:17 AM »
Fauci is a monster. The amount of death and suffering that he is DIRECTLY responsible for is horrific. One of the most evil men in history.

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Exactly Right

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Re: Have we been duped?
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2022, 05:21:46 AM »
US weapon systems are killing Russians and destroying their tanks our technology is finally being used to smack around and weaken the Russian Army and Ukrainian soldiers are the ones taking the risk not all bad

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« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2022, 05:26:27 AM »
US weapon systems are killing Russians and destroying their tanks our technology is finally being used to smack around and weaken the Russian Army and Ukrainian soldiers are the ones taking the risk not all bad

OK so we're proving our weapons are better than theirs. But what do we as taxpayers get out of the deal? This is just putting money in arms dealers' pockets. Is there a weapons manufacturing index fund I can put money in? I don't want to miss out.

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« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2022, 05:48:09 AM »
OK so we're proving our weapons are better than theirs. But what do we as taxpayers get out of the deal? This is just putting money in arms dealers' pockets. Is there a weapons manufacturing index fund I can put money in? I don't want to miss out.

Too late, it's all already priced in. "Weapons and defence stocks" like Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman Corporation already pumped back in Feb.

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« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2022, 07:25:27 AM »
US weapon systems are killing Russians and destroying their tanks our technology is finally being used to smack around and weaken the Russian Army and Ukrainian soldiers are the ones taking the risk not all bad

I'd love to believe there's a Grand Plan. And there are competant people at the helm seeing to its implementation. And they're making secret, savvy moves to defend the legacy of Western Civilization.

But that's an implausible conspiracy theory at this point.

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« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2022, 03:16:47 PM »
I'm starting to believe it's more of a complicated long-game.

The USA keeps pouring billions into the Ukraine and China has been doing the same for the last 20+ years.

Both the USA and China are in it for geopolitical & commodity benefits. For China, it allows for additional exposure of its overseas loan portfolio towards debtor countries at risk of default, countries that are BIG commodity exporting countries (for instance Ukraine and wheat). For USA it's both geopolitical and commodities gain. Ukraine sits as a good access point to Russia. If the USA plays loan shark to Ukraine during their "difficult" times, if Ukraine is able to get out of this conflict intact, they will then owe the USA. Down the line, if the USA has any major issues with Russia, Ukraine would serve as a good spot to place troops and military weapons to attack Russia from, while the USA is also then able to position themselves on opposing fronts around Alaska.

I could be wrong, but why else are both of these opposing forces (USA and China) continuing to dump money into Ukraine?

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Re: Have we been duped?
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2022, 03:19:33 PM »
Been saying for years Russia isn't our problem, China is. Keep your eyes open.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Have we been duped?
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2022, 03:38:22 PM »
Been saying for years Russia isn't our problem, China is. Keep your eyes open.

This.

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« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2022, 03:41:13 PM »
I'm starting to believe it's more of a complicated long-game.

The USA keeps pouring billions into the Ukraine and China has been doing the same for the last 20+ years.

Both the USA and China are in it for geopolitical & commodity benefits. For China, it allows for additional exposure of its overseas loan portfolio towards debtor countries at risk of default, countries that are BIG commodity exporting countries (for instance Ukraine and wheat). For USA it's both geopolitical and commodities gain. Ukraine sits as a good access point to Russia. If the USA plays loan shark to Ukraine during their "difficult" times, if Ukraine is able to get out of this conflict intact, they will then owe the USA. Down the line, if the USA has any major issues with Russia, Ukraine would serve as a good spot to place troops and military weapons to attack Russia from, while the USA is also then able to position themselves on opposing fronts around Alaska.

I could be wrong, but why else are both of these opposing forces (USA and China) continuing to dump money into Ukraine?

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the USA isnt dumping billions into Afghanistan anymore, they need something to do with all that tax payers cash , although they could use it to police the borders.

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Re: Have we been duped?
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2022, 05:50:50 PM »
Having Putin severely weaken the Azov Battalion was the best thing for Zelensky’s future in Ukraine

Azov battalion was destroyed @ Azovstal, the last 249 capitulated to Russian coalition in Mariupol !.

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« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2022, 05:58:26 PM »
US weapon systems are killing Russians and destroying their tanks our technology is finally being used to smack around and weaken the Russian Army and Ukrainian soldiers are the ones taking the risk not all bad

Really  ::), now you are military technology "expert" too !.

In reality you know shit (CNN shit) about situation in Ukraine !.

Hey, Zelensky needs Rambos like YOU !.

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Re: Have we been duped?
« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2022, 06:07:21 PM »
Azov battalion was destroyed @ Azovstal, the last 249 capitulated to Russian coalition in Mariupol !.

Good

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« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2022, 06:08:20 PM »
I'm starting to believe it's more of a complicated long-game.

The USA keeps pouring billions into the Ukraine and China has been doing the same for the last 20+ years.

Both the USA and China are in it for geopolitical & commodity benefits. For China, it allows for additional exposure of its overseas loan portfolio towards debtor countries at risk of default, countries that are BIG commodity exporting countries (for instance Ukraine and wheat). For USA it's both geopolitical and commodities gain. Ukraine sits as a good access point to Russia. If the USA plays loan shark to Ukraine during their "difficult" times, if Ukraine is able to get out of this conflict intact, they will then owe the USA. Down the line, if the USA has any major issues with Russia, Ukraine would serve as a good spot to place troops and military weapons to attack Russia from, while the USA is also then able to position themselves on opposing fronts around Alaska.

I could be wrong, but why else are both of these opposing forces (USA and China) continuing to dump money into Ukraine?

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PUTIN : if any of those western countries think that they can beat us why they don't try .................. ;D (he repeated this 2 X)

OBW, "1" dream about the Khazarin Jews country in Ukraine is dead !.

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« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2022, 06:18:04 PM »
I'm starting to believe it's more of a complicated long-game.

The USA keeps pouring billions into the Ukraine and China has been doing the same for the last 20+ years.

Both the USA and China are in it for geopolitical & commodity benefits. For China, it allows for additional exposure of its overseas loan portfolio towards debtor countries at risk of default, countries that are BIG commodity exporting countries (for instance Ukraine and wheat). For USA it's both geopolitical and commodities gain. Ukraine sits as a good access point to Russia. If the USA plays loan shark to Ukraine during their "difficult" times, if Ukraine is able to get out of this conflict intact, they will then owe the USA. Down the line, if the USA has any major issues with Russia, Ukraine would serve as a good spot to place troops and military weapons to attack Russia from, while the USA is also then able to position themselves on opposing fronts around Alaska.

I could be wrong, but why else are both of these opposing forces (USA and China) continuing to dump money into Ukraine?

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One of the theories:

Money Laundering through Ukrainian Banks.... then dumping our tax dollars right in to the Swamp Creatures accounts at the Vatican Bank

That’s how the Clintons & Obama’s became rich... and the Biden’s and Pelosi and Mitt Romney

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Re: Have we been duped?
« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2022, 06:17:16 AM »
One objective is to weaken Russia to the extent it is never again a threat to NATO.

The Russian oil well heads need to back up, shut down and freeze over.

This curtails Russian oil revenues and tanks their economy.

Ukraine is a pawn in this gamble.

Can Russia continue to pump and sell enough crude to prevent this?