Frank McGrath - Dialysis.

[GymnJuice]

^^  That's a 26" cannon right there!!

Imprecise measurements reported to Chad MattC

[The Scott]

Right - so now I gotta get US residency so I can vote for Scott!!

Other than the fact that I can't really "run" (cue bhanky's laughing!), I think I would make an excellent running mate for Mr. Trump.  I would not hold back in a debate with the current Vice filledPussbag...

She is one of the few people out there that I know I could actually sound smarter than, LOL!

Because I am. 

[wes]

Right - so now I gotta get US residency so I can vote for Scott!!

Hey, we take in unwashed masses....come on over.  LOL 

[Matt]

No need - I found the originals that you changed so we wouldn't be jealous of your progress 

LOL.

Glad you like it - you actually asked for that a couple of days back - can't recall which thread though, sorry

Thank you for being sorry. I was expecting an apology for this one.

Incredible Photoshop work. But very poor memory. 

[Matt]

With a few more weeks of training:

 

[ThisisOverload]

Did you feel superior only on tren? Was it placebo?

I only used test, and I didn't feel any different even at 1000mg/week. I mean I didn't feel negatively affected but neither positively....no superior feeling, nothing. And the physical effect wasn't overwhelming either. A tad bigger shoulders, a slightly slimer waist. And it was legit test, bought here at the pharmacy.

I've used Tren many times and it always made me feel very aggressive and unstoppable.

On huge amounts of Test mixed with other AAS i never felt that way.

Halo is similar to Tren but i only used it once. Halo was the only AAS i've used that made me feel rage. Like when you get hit in the nose and just see red and want to destroy things.

My theory is that heavy androgens cause this behavior.

Cheque drops seem to do the same and are common in fighting sports, but i've never used them.

[Matt]

I've used Tren many times and it always made me feel very aggressive and unstoppable.

On huge amounts of Test mixed with other AAS i never felt that way.

Halo is similar to Tren but i only used it once. Halo was the only AAS i've used that made me feel rage. Like when you get hit in the nose and just see red and want to destroy things.

My theory is that heavy androgens cause this behavior.

Cheque drops seem to do the same and are common in fighting sports, but i've never used them.

Two Strongman I know used Cheque Drops, including what who competed at World's Strongest Man. So they must have some application there too.

Temporary aggression, right?

Did Mike Tyson use them? I believe he was said to have done so.

[strgth]

Not necessarily AAS that cause direct kidney failure when used in moderation. The body and kidneys can easily assimilate a few CCs of hormones weekly without impact. It's the constant high BP that causes kidneys damage. High cals+carbs+AAS that causes water retention = high blood pressure and kidneys damage over time. Use AAS that does not cause water retention, keep carbs low and you should be able to keep a good blood pressure. Now very high protein consumption is also more taxing on the kidneys. Add to that the usage of painkillers and having one kidney only, for sure the guy was gonna end up on dialysis, just a matter of time. Very sad tho, always seemed like a great chill guy with a sick physique.

[Hypertrophy]

Not necessarily AAS that cause direct kidney failure when used in moderation. The body and kidneys can easily assimilate a few CCs of hormones weekly without impact. It's the constant high BP that causes kidneys damage. High cals+carbs+AAS that causes water retention = high blood pressure and kidneys damage over time. Use AAS that does not cause water retention, keep carbs low and you should be able to keep a good blood pressure. Now very high protein consumption is also more taxing on the kidneys. Add to that the usage of painkillers and having one kidney only, for sure the guy was gonna end up on dialysis, just a matter of time. Very sad tho, always seemed like a great chill guy with a sick physique.

^^This. High blood pressure has been called the silent killer for good reason. You can have it and not know it. I recommend everyone on this board check theirs a few times a week. The monitors are pretty inexpensive.


High protein consumption causes overloading of the body with ammonia- and that has to be gotten rid of somehow. Often it is in the form of uric acid.


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31366360/

[wes]

I've used Tren many times and it always made me feel very aggressive and unstoppable.

On huge amounts of Test mixed with other AAS i never felt that way.

Halo is similar to Tren but i only used it once. Halo was the only AAS i've used that made me feel rage. Like when you get hit in the nose and just see red and want to destroy things.

My theory is that heavy androgens cause this behavior.

Cheque drops seem to do the same and are common in fighting sports, but i've never used them.

Halo is a fucking monster!!

I can elaborate but I`ll just say you could crush someones skull with your bare hands just because they said good morning !!    LOL 

[BB]

Did Mike Tyson use them? I believe he was said to have done so.

There was conjecture that he might've been given them during the "bite fight". They would take him off his psych meds a decent bit before fights to make him irritable.

Back when MMA was first starting there was a lot of renewed interest in Cheque drops and Halotestin.  They're considered good weight class drugs. All the aggression, very little weight gain.

With Cheque drop though, there's a wave to it. There's a peak where you're so ramped up, you feel like a world beater, then a valley where you're so irritable that it's detrimental. A lot of figuring goes into dosing around attempts to beat the valleys.

[ThisisOverload]

Two Strongman I know used Cheque Drops, including what who competed at World's Strongest Man. So they must have some application there too.

Temporary aggression, right?

Did Mike Tyson use them? I believe he was said to have done so.

I used Halo for a few weeks before a powerlifting competition. Was cutting weight and didn't want to sap my strength. Shit was unreal for strength but i felt on edge 24/7. Simple things would trigger this feeling of anger inside me. Not good.

Yeah it's all temporary. Some people claim roid rage is false, but i'm a VERY calm and relaxed person. Tren and Halo made me feel very irritable. That's why i haven't taken Tren in almost 10 years.

Test and Deca make me feel good, no issues there. So that's pretty much all i take anymore, with some Dbol sometimes.

[ThisisOverload]

^^This. High blood pressure has been called the silent killer for good reason. You can have it and not know it. I recommend everyone on this board check theirs a few times a week. The monitors are pretty inexpensive.


High protein consumption causes overloading of the body with ammonia- and that has to be gotten rid of somehow. Often it is in the form of uric acid.


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31366360/

AAS abuse causes extremely high BP, no matter how hard you try to avoid it, walking around at 280+ pounds is not good for any human.

My BP always goes up a little on cycle, but more importantly, the minute i get over 230 pounds it gets really bad. Even on Test/Eq my BP is perfect as long as i'm under 220 or so.

There are many factors to this, but drug abuse (AAS, recs, slin, peps), eating insane amounts of food and training with extreme intensity will also work against you over time. Force feeding yourself and gaining massive amounts of weight in a short time is terrible for you.

I haven't had BP problems in years, but i still check my BP once or twice a week in the morning, just to be sure.

[BB]

Wholesome -

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P.S. - For those wondering, not used in the States anymore, too many problems with dogs (and other animals) being aggressive on them.

[ESFitness]

Really? Anadrol and kidney FAILURE?

We just went and WOOOOOSH, jumped right through kidney problems, straight to failure?

I am currently using 16mg daily. I kept tinkering with a low dose until I felt no side effects, and only effects.

I also used 12.5mg daily for 30 days with success.

Is Anadrol SO toxic, that even such low doses are dangerous?

I'll talk to my doctor about it tomorrow [I have a date tonight], but I wasn't going to stay on for more than another month anyway.

Anadrol is prescribed to 80lb children in the 300-400mg/day range for 6-9months.

[BB]

Just cause I'm a fan of the old ads -

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Great opener on this - "What nature denies, Halotestin may replace" , they knew they were speaking to the Hankins in the audience -

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They get you all ready for a sexual new you, then they tell you your wife has cancer -

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The ying and the yang of 1970's steroid ads.

[Rusty Trombone]

 

[Rusty Trombone]

I've used Tren many times and it always made me feel very aggressive and unstoppable.

On huge amounts of Test mixed with other AAS i never felt that way.

Halo is similar to Tren but i only used it once. Halo was the only AAS i've used that made me feel rage. Like when you get hit in the nose and just see red and want to destroy things.

My theory is that heavy androgens cause this behavior.

Cheque drops seem to do the same and are common in fighting sports, but i've never used them.

Thanx

[Van_Bilderass]

I've tried maybe 10 different Halotestin products. Don't know if any were legit as I didn't really notice any mood effects. I wanted the rage but didn't notice it.

Tren has very definite psychoaffective properties. I never acted out on it but I mentally snapped many times but was able to control it, perhaps because the other people in the situations didn't escalate it. I don't know how to explain it but
as I felt myself lose emotional control it felt good, almost euphoric, like I was raging and laughing at the same time.
At other calmer times it just darkened the mood, everything was black, "I want to watch the world burn" type of mood lol. I would always think why I used the shit at all when it made me so negative but then I was doing yet another cycle of it.
There's debate on how "androgenic" tren is. Some say it's 5 times as anabolic and androgenic as test but apparently there is no data supporting these figures. Some "experts" say it's only about half as androgenic as test. There's debate on what causes the psychoaffective properties. Perhaps it has to do with its effect on the glucocorticoid receptor. But it does have very strong libido enhancing effects for many, which could be thought to be due to its androgenicity but some other relatively mildly androgenic steroids like Masteron also boost libido.

[joswift]

I've tried maybe 10 different Halotestin products. Don't know if any were legit as I didn't really notice any mood effects. I wanted the rage but didn't notice it.

Tren has very definite psychoaffective properties. I never acted out on it but I mentally snapped many times but was able to control it, perhaps because the other people in the situations didn't escalate it. I don't know how to explain it but
as I felt myself lose emotional control it felt good, almost euphoric, like I was raging and laughing at the same time.
At other calmer times it just darkened the mood, everything was black, "I want to watch the world burn" type of mood lol. I would always think why I used the shit at all when it made me so negative but then I was doing yet another cycle of it.
There's debate on how "androgenic" tren is. Some say it's 5 times as anabolic and androgenic as test but apparently there is no data supporting these figures. Some "experts" say it's only about half as androgenic as test. There's debate on what causes the psychoaffective properties. Perhaps it has to do with its effect on the glucocorticoid receptor. But it does have very strong libido enhancing effects for many, which could be thought to be due to its androgenicity but some other relatively mildly androgenic steroids like Masteron also boost libido.

tren causes heartburn

[IroNat]

Those magazine ads are fantastic.

[Coach is Back!]

Rules for long term gear use if you must…

1. Moderate to low doses (keep it more on the lower side)

2. Cycle off once in a while

3. Stay with the safer gear (test, EQ, Deca, etc)

4. No orals

5. Limit or no OTC pain meds (harsher than the gear itself)

6. Moderate protein (I’m below 1gr) I’m between 225-230 and keep it around 180gr

7. Keep your diet relatively clean. I follow my own 80/20-90/10 rule

[ThisisOverload]

I've tried maybe 10 different Halotestin products. Don't know if any were legit as I didn't really notice any mood effects. I wanted the rage but didn't notice it.

Tren has very definite psychoaffective properties. I never acted out on it but I mentally snapped many times but was able to control it, perhaps because the other people in the situations didn't escalate it. I don't know how to explain it but
as I felt myself lose emotional control it felt good, almost euphoric, like I was raging and laughing at the same time.
At other calmer times it just darkened the mood, everything was black, "I want to watch the world burn" type of mood lol. I would always think why I used the shit at all when it made me so negative but then I was doing yet another cycle of it.
There's debate on how "androgenic" tren is. Some say it's 5 times as anabolic and androgenic as test but apparently there is no data supporting these figures. Some "experts" say it's only about half as androgenic as test. There's debate on what causes the psychoaffective properties. Perhaps it has to do with its effect on the glucocorticoid receptor. But it does have very strong libido enhancing effects for many, which could be thought to be due to its androgenicity but some other relatively mildly androgenic steroids like Masteron also boost libido.

The rage i noticed with Halo was in response to something. Not like i was always that way, but i did feel irritable.

Something small would piss me off and i'd get all huffy puffy about it.

It's like it shortened my fuse for bullshit. Made me less tolerant, typically towards people.

[ThisisOverload]

Rules for long term gear use if you must…

1. Moderate to low doses (keep it more on the lower side)

2. Cycle off once in a while

3. Stay with the safer gear (test, EQ, Deca, etc)

4. No orals

5. Limit or no OTC pain meds (harsher than the gear itself)

6. Moderate protein (I’m below 1gr) I’m between 225-230 and keep it around 180gr

7. Keep your diet relatively clean. I follow my own 80/20-90/10 rule

Agree, but i don't think orals are that bad if you use them for 4-6 weeks at a time and don't take too much.

I don't go over 600mg of combined AAS these days.

I'll stay on real TRT, 50mg every 3-4 days. Then for 3-4 months i'll blast 200mg Test with 300mg Deca or Eq.

Watch your BP and weight, no reason to really "bulk" unless you are a serious BBer who wants to compete.

I won't take any sort of anti-inflammatory drugs or pain killers.

[Van_Bilderass]

tren causes heartburn

Oh I know. Terrible. If someone hasn't experienced bad heartburn they don't know how miserable it can be lol. I don't know if there is a solution. This problem usually only manifests after years on steroid use, it at least gets way worse over time. What's even worse is Viagra.

The rage i noticed with Halo was in response to something. Not like i was always that way, but i did feel irritable.

Something small would piss me off and i'd get all huffy puffy about it.

It's like it shortened my fuse for bullshit. Made me less tolerant, typically towards people.

It's like that with tren for me. Typically I was a bit stressed out at work with the workload and then some asshole called me a fucking idiot lol. Then there was like a flash of lightning, seeing red as you called it and for a few seconds you lose control lol. It was such a drastic switch in usual demeanor people didn't know what to make of it except tip toe around me after that. A few times they came to apologize to me for being disrespectful