Tommy Wishbone is a legit beast

[King Shizzo]

TommyWishbone = 600 lb x 10 deadlift sets.

Brian Hankins = 45 lb leg extensions at Planet Fitness.

The difference between doing it and talking about it.

So Tommy can lift me 10 times? Impressive.

[Walter Sobchak]

So Tommy can lift me 10 times? Impressive.

TWB has a Shizzo approved diet, there is no stopping him now.

Did you get that copy of the Matt Canning jerkoff video you were looking for?

🤣

[King Shizzo]

TWB has a Shizzo approved diet, there is no stopping him now.

Did you get that copy of the Matt Canning jerkoff video you were looking for?

🤣

[Walter Sobchak]

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If you look closely you can just see the top of Josh Rehaluk’s fat head as Matt Canning reaches climax.

[tommywishbone]

This is what I'm talking about.  Yams, and Crystal Light and Rice cakes and Ahi.  Old School, fuck yeah!

Yes sir!  It’s pretty much a generic early 1990’s bodybuilding prep diet. Plenty of green beans too!

It wasn’t too expensive. Easy to prepare. I think I ate almost 50 pounds of steamed white rice during the 14 week diet.  The rice cooker was on every morning, noon and early evening.

Probably ate close to 500 whole eggs. Always over easy, with a nice shot of salsa.

[tommywishbone]

Tommy, compared to BHANKS, you look like absolute dog shit.

Hope this helps.

  Sweetheart I did everything possible that I knew to try. And truth be told… my PED program wasn’t that aggressive.

Perhaps one day Mr. BHANKS and I could have a pose down? Winner takes all!

[Gym-Rat]

Tommy, as someone who's not a spring-chicken (like me), will you get bloods done and just be back on TRT for time being?

Or do you have any more shows lined-up?

[tommywishbone]

Same.

Damn awesome job man. No small feat at 60. Congrats!

Thank you very much Y! Sincerely appreciated.

There was a strong group of fellow degenerates helping me. I could not let them down.

[wes]

Yes sir!  It’s pretty much a generic early 1990’s bodybuilding prep diet. Plenty of green beans too!

It wasn’t too expensive. Easy to prepare. I think I ate almost 25 pounds of steamed white rice during the 14 week diet.  The rice cooker was on every morning, noon and early evening.

Probably ate close to 500 whole eggs. Always over easy, with a nice shot of salsa.

Hey Tom,congrats again bro.....if you don`t mind,somewhere down the road can I pick your brain on how you leaned out without doing cardio?

I have COPD so cardio is rough but if you`ve seen my diet you know I eat very clean.

I`m training for next Julys Masters Nats so I won`t bug you too soon if it`s OK.

Thanks!

[tommywishbone]

Tommy, as someone who's not a spring-chicken (like me), will you get bloods done and just be back on TRT for time being?

Or do you have any more shows lined-up?

Hi GR.  I had my panels run 2X during my prep. Amazingly they were always unremarkable. Free serum testosterone was 1770 one time. That’s crazy high for a 60 year old man but not dangerous.

Everything else looked good.

Strangely I felt great the entire time. It was so weird.

I’ll sit down with my co-conspirators this week and talk about another show. Even though I feel good- I know the window is rapidly closing on competitive bodybuilding.

Stay cool.

[tommywishbone]

Hey Tom,congrats again bro.....if you don`t mind,somewhere down the road can I pick your brain on how you leaned out without doing cardio?

I have COPD so cardio is rough but if you`ve seen my diet you know I eat very clean.

I`m training for next Julys Masters Nats so I won`t bug you too soon if it`s OK.

Thanks!

Always brother!   Anything I can do to help- just ask.

Check your PM.

[wes]

Always brother!   Anything I can do to help- just ask.

Check your PM.

Thanks Tom...you`re the man.

[joswift]

Hey Tom,congrats again bro.....if you don`t mind,somewhere down the road can I pick your brain on how you leaned out without doing cardio?

I have COPD so cardio is rough but if you`ve seen my diet you know I eat very clean.

I`m training for next Julys Masters Nats so I won`t bug you too soon if it`s OK.

Thanks!

I dont believe cardio is that efficient in fat loss, sure its good for your heart and lungs but the effort in compared to cals burned isnt worth the time

You can spend an hour on a bike and burn 300 cals, may as well watch TV and not eat 300 cals

[wes]

I dont believe cardio is that efficient in fat loss, sure its good for your heart and lungs but the effort in compared to cals burned isnt worth the time

You can spend an hour on a bike and burn 300 cals, may as well watch TV and not eat 300 cals

That`s a damn good point.....I`ve been looking into how Arnold and those cats ate and trained and never did cardio but still looked great.

Mostly,meat,whole eggs,cottage cheese,fish,chicken,heavy cream, etc. with very little complex carbs.

I`ve always done waaay too much cardio just to ensure I was in condition but I think I sacrificed a lot of muscle.

In this show, the weight class is higher so I can come in much bigger.......at least 10-15 pounds heavier best case scenario of course I`m gonna` go in at the weight I look best at......fuck the scale.

[SF1900]

Sweetheart I did everything possible that I knew to try. And truth be told… my PED program wasn’t that aggressive.

Perhaps one day Mr. BHANKS and I could have a pose down? Winner takes all!

I’ll apply the posing oil. Would be an honor.

[tommywishbone]

I’ll apply the posing oil. Would be an honor.

    

At my competition they had a company back stage that applied your final stage sheen. They called the product “muscle juice.”    It was a very nice sheen I suppose. 

[JackTheRipper]

I dont believe cardio is that efficient in fat loss, sure its good for your heart and lungs but the effort in compared to cals burned isnt worth the time

You can spend an hour on a bike and burn 300 cals, may as well watch TV and not eat 300 cals

So just not eat then??
Actually it's the accumulation of regular cardio than burns fat over a period of time. Sit on your bum all day in an office & you'll get a fat bum, work iìn construction or even as a waitress on your feet all day & have a nice bum. It's the day in day out activity that works.

[joswift]

So just not eat then??
Actually it's the accumulation of regular cardio than burns fat over a period of time. Sit on your bum all day in an office & you'll get a fat bum, work iìn construction or even as a waitress on your feet all day & have a nice bum. It's the day in day out activity that works.

not if you dont over eat.

[Gym-Rat]

I despise normal cardio like bikes and treadmills, but love going for our daily walks with the dog for an hour.
Winter time I use the indoor crap though.

I dont do it for fat-loss, but for a stronger heart as I age. But like JTR mentioned, I think it does help a bit with a fast(er) metabolism and maybe some fat-loss over time.
Culminative...

[tommywishbone]

I actually have no issues with conventional cardio, threadmill, stair master, spinning bike.  We just agreed that it so easy to burn away muscle instead of fat that we would not add cardio unless I stopped tightening.

Here’s what most likely lead to the fat loss and retention of most muscle…

-my prep was 14 weeks.  That’s 98 days. In those 98 days I took three days off.  Three.
-I trained legs 2X weekly until the show was 2 weeks away.
-I used clenbuterol and Bronkaid.
-I took my oral PED’s throughout the day.
-I trained outside in the heat frequently.
-ate every 3 hours. 8am, 11am, 2pm, 5pm, 8pm.

*no I am not employed. I have 24/7 access to two different gyms. Those things helped.

I think the totality of that really boosted my BMR.

[Matt]

Great Tommy Pheil interview from September, 2017:

[IroNat]

I dont believe cardio is that efficient in fat loss, sure its good for your heart and lungs but the effort in compared to cals burned isnt worth the time

You can spend an hour on a bike and burn 300 cals, may as well watch TV and not eat 300 cals

Agreed.

You can't outrun a bad diet.

Remember when Oldtimer would swear his cardio would make him lose weight while he overate and drank all the time?

He kept gaining weight.

[joswift]

Agreed.

You can't outrun a bad diet.

Remember when Oldtimer would swear his cardio would make him lose weight while he overate and drank all the time?

He kept gaining weight.

Sev was eating about 5k cals last time he was here on his diet and doing 2 hours of cardio

[IroNat]

Sev was eating about 5k cals last time he was here on his diet and doing 2 hours of cardio

Easier to skip a few Oreos and not spend hours on a treadmill.

It always comes back to calories in/calories out (assuming drugs not involved).

[Hypertrophy]

I dont believe cardio is that efficient in fat loss, sure its good for your heart and lungs but the effort in compared to cals burned isnt worth the time

You can spend an hour on a bike and burn 300 cals, may as well watch TV and not eat 300 cals

This^


As a former competitive bike racer, I  still had to diet to get lean for racing every year. You can't burn enough calories to compensate for a bad diet- without overtraining and getting worse.


20 min cardio 3 x a week has been proven to be all you really need to maintain aerobic fitness. Diet is king for getting lean.