should not have to pay the loans of gender studies majors

[Agnostic007]

The issue is that this only benefits people who took out loans at a certain period of time.

It doesn't help anyone who is about to take a loan, so the root cause has not been solved.  It's just a select group of people getting a random "bonus".

I am hesitant to be hyper critical of the situation, as I am fortunate and appreciative that I was able to graduate college without having to take a loan, and realize that not something everybody gets to do.

very reasonable post.

[Coach is Back!]

You sign on the dotted line you own it…not me. It’s called responsibility

[Al Doggity]

In my opinion that is not a very strong argument. Using that logic, any service member should be able to just quit since they made that decision to join before they were legally allowed to drink. You go to college typically at 18 which is a legal adult in any state. Yeah, some were mislead or even desired dead end degrees, but should it really fall in my lap to absorb the cost of their bad decision?

I don't think this is a strong comparison. Military service is 2-5 years and  apparently 2 year options have been growing at a rapid pace in certain branches so that enlistees don't have to make longer commitments. College loans don't expire after 5 years. On top of that, there are multiple ways to get out of military service early, if you were really interested in doing so. Coincidentally, one of those ways is a financial difficulties discharge.

eta  None of the points I attempted to make revolve around dead end degrees or kids being misled.

[Gym-Rat]

Every single post from “gym rat” is about politics this and that, must suck for whoever lives with you to listen to this drivel 24/7

Bevo... You know how to use the "block" feature correct?
Even my bud SF1900 blocked me.

Ill give you a break from "non-muscle" posts though. Even though most muscle-posts normally dont get any real response here.
Most here dont care about real iron-history and training (maybe Funk, Wes and a couple of others).
But many sure like to talk about caulk and nude muscle-men???

But since I care about SF1900, I'll refrain. Heck, youre probably a good guy too for all I know. 

[Gym-Rat]

Every single post from “gym rat” is about politics this and that, must suck for whoever lives with you to listen to this drivel 24/7

.

[ProudVirgin69]

You can post about politics all you want, but I am not a political person and don’t care to read about politics. When it’s constantly posted, it gets very old very quickly. It’s all you post about all day. It’s like Strawman except for republicans/conservatives.

You make much better posts about bodybuilding and weightlifting.

QFT

I fear for gym-rats mental health, he's posting about the libs at all hours of the day.

[GymnJuice]

Good, we've gotten past the pretense that this is about  useless degrees or kids being irresponsible.

And, no, your taxes don't pay anything in regards to this program. It's a self-sustaining  program that is actually profitable. That's one of the main reasons that interest wasn't cut  as another poster suggested upthread.

This is about the entire system including useless degrees and people not being responsible for the loans they've taken.

And I don't for one second believe that my taxes aren't paying for this.

[funk51]

QFT

I fear for gym-rats mental health, he's posting about the libs at all hours of the day.

   It seems to give him some comfort in these trying times.

[ProudVirgin69]

This is about the entire system including useless degrees and people not being responsible for the loans they've taken.

And I don't for one second believe that my taxes aren't paying for this.

your taxes don't 'pay' for anything, you think the government needs your money to pay for stuff?  They just print that shit out of thin air

[SF1900]

QFT

I fear for gym-rats mental health, he's posting about the libs at all hours of the day.

I just skip over people’s political posts. Then again, this has not been a bodybuilding forum in a very long time. Over time, the forum has really changed with the political climate.

[Gym-Rat]

QFT

I fear for gym-rats mental health, he's posting about the libs at all hours of the day.

LOL

Thank you fine sir!  (And the rest of you legends)!! 
I will refrain... And try to keep it muscle-related... You too Bevo, you rock brother! 

I admit, I even annoy myself...

[The Scott]

During my daughter's graduation there was a woman with a degree in "African Women's Studies".

What?  Learning how to carry a water jar on your head? 

[joswift]

During my daughter's graduation there was a woman with a degree in "African Women's Studies".

What?  Learning how to carry a water jar on your head?

No, it was how to make white people dislike and avoid you

[funk51]

   POLITICS
Curt Schilling Bashes Student Debt Relief Despite Defaulting On $75M Govt. Loan
Twitter users mocked the former baseball pitcher, whose video game company defaulted on a $75 million loan from the state of Rhode Island in 2012.
David Moye
By
David Moye
Aug 25, 2022, 08:27 PM EDT





Former baseball pitcher Curt Schilling is the latest conservative to gripe about President Joe Biden’s debt relief plan for college students, but many people noticed his criticism smacked of hypocrisy.

On Thursday, Schilling griped about what he called “a generation of lazy unaccountable uneducated children” — people earning less than $125,000 per year who would have $10,000 to $20,000 of their student debt canceled — “being covered by hard working debt paying Americans.”

My body my choice? Your loan my responsibility? This isn’t loan forgiveness, it’s a generation of lazy unaccountable uneducated children being covered by hard working debt paying Americans.

— Curt Schilling (@gehrig38) August 25, 2022
Schilling, however, may not be the best person to level this criticism. Back in 2012, his video game company, 38 Studios, defaulted on a $75 million loan from the state of Rhode Island.

He told Esquire in 2017 that he lost $50 million of his own fortune from the debacle, which he called “the most painful time in my life.”

Apparently, Schilling’s experience did not result in any empathy for others who might also need a hand to follow their dreams. Twitter users felt obliged to point out the “rules for thee, not for me” message in his tweet.

This fraudulent fuckmuppet is a perfect representative of hypocrisy of the student loan debt relief opponents. He cost the taxpayers of Rhode Island tens of millions of dollars, repaid his own loans from taxpayer money. https://t.co/JGKk3wXF6e

— John Rogers (@jonrog1) August 25, 2022
Former 38 Studios president Curt Schilling is not a fan of American taxes covering people's loans https://t.co/wnOUyj4gGL

— Jason Schreier (@jasonschreier) August 25, 2022
38 Studios, my guy. Your bad business decisions cost taxpayers for yeaaaaaaars. Get real, you turkey. https://t.co/oc9NTO3qMh

— Mike Futter (@Futterish) August 25, 2022
Schilling's fiduciary duty to RI was $75M, but arbitration—a system that screws over most working Americans in favor of corporations/scam artists—played a role in reducing that to $2.5M (1/30th). So, uh, which generation of lazy unaccountables? https://t.co/JDwVdZzr6h https://t.co/yHCtVUt2JL

— Sam Machkovech ☂ (@samred) August 25, 2022
so weird that everybody pretending to be upset about student loan forgiveness happens to have borrowed hundreds of thousands or millions at some point (and, in one case, failed to pay back the state of rhode island after their video game vanity project failed spectacularly) https://t.co/6RBvTXwHna

— Nathan Grayson (@Vahn16) August 25, 2022
Aren't you the guy who scammed Rhode Island out of army $100m in loans, then declares bankruptcy to not pay them back?
Take a seat, my dude. https://t.co/Tr8TAnmtu0

— Mike Avila (@mikeavila) August 25, 2022
Right-wingers live in a world of such self-hating projection. https://t.co/5MXdZTOFMI https://t.co/HQJ5Yz7M5f pic.twitter.com/vTARZyizak

— Matt Ortega (@MattOrtega) August 25, 2022
Even a member of the White House digital strategy staff felt obliged to point out that Schilling wasn’t the best advocate for paying back debts.

"Curt Schilling to repay a fraction of $75 million game loan"https://t.co/TzbpjAXcQihttps://t.co/ZsAjBuI8yO

— Rob Flaherty (@RFlaherty46) August 25, 2022
Schilling did respond to the mockery, but anyone expecting him to own up to his hypocrisy was bound to be disappointed.

Electing idiots and frauds like you is how that happens. Check the SEC filings idiot. See who they convicted of fraud. Hint: it wasn’t me.

— Curt Schilling (@gehrig38) August 25, 2022
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[Grape Ape]

LOL

Thank you fine sir!  (And the rest of you legends)!! 
I will refrain... And try to keep it muscle-related... You too Bevo, you rock brother! 

I admit, I even annoy myself...

Post what you want and anyone who doesn't like it can use the ignore feature or fuck the fuck off.

Don't change anything based on lesser tier posters concerns.

[Gym-Rat]

Post what you want and anyone who doesn't like it can use the ignore feature or fuck the fuck off.

Don't change anything based on lesser tier posters concerns.

I do tire of political crap though. Muscle-related threads get like 2 replies though.
Forums are long-dead...

[Grape Ape]

I do tire of political crap though. Muscle-related threads get like 2 replies though.
Forums are long-dead...

gayer than longing for "muscle related" replies

[Humble Narcissist]

During my daughter's graduation there was a woman with a degree in "African Women's Studies".

What?  Learning how to carry a water jar on your head?

Most people who go to college are not college material. In order to get money out of them the schools make sure they have degrees that anyone can get regardless of scholastic ability. If they want to pay off the loans for these students they should make the schools sitting on all that cash pay for it.