World Health Leaders

[Marvin Martian]

Eggs give you gas and bloat?  They shouldn't.

Right - who ever heard of such. Eggs giving gas - pffft. That is ridiculous.

[beakdoctor]

Haha, I don't disagree with your view at all that she's a fat, obese pig. However, it's got no relevance at all to her role - and I'm not a fan of her in the slightest. The Canadian in the photo, for example, is an pediatric infectious disease specialist and has been a fellow of the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Canada. Would you rather have Jay Culter in his lab coat overseeing policy and budgets or a physician and PhD-qualified MP?

The Civil Service work in various government departments to implement the policies of these ministers. You've got a very small pool of individuals from each party who can be selected, so yeah, you're not going to get Dolph Lungren as the next secretary of state for health and social care. It's troubling that so many people in our country don't pay attention to how government actually works. It's far more important that the public focus on the views and voting records of some of these corrupt bootlickers - that way they can actually put forward well-reasoned arguments for why they shouldn't be supported. Simply pointing out that some are ugly and/or fat cunts is irrelevant even though it has the virtue of being true.

You raise a really good point.

But wouldn't you expect that someone appointed to this position (and someone willing to accept the position) to at least have a passing interest in their own health?

[Cook]

Bill Starr once said a S&C coach doesn’t have to look the part to be a knowledgeable coach but it sure makes it easier to get people to buy in if he does.

[Phantom Spunker]

You raise a really good point.

But wouldn't you expect that someone appointed to this position (and someone willing to accept the position) to at least have a passing interest in their own health?

To be honest, not really. And I know that sounds a bit absurd so I'll try to clarify. First, I'll focus on the UK role as that's where I'm from and I understand the position a bit better. Secondly, with regard to an interest in her own health, I'm sure she has an interest in staying alive and having access to good healthcare; the NHS did apparently nearly kill her by neglecting to spot meningitis once, so I'm sure from that standpoint she's interested in ways to improve it and cut costs.

But beyond that, no, I'm not really surprised she's a fat-ass. It's the same with many doctors I see. They're middle-aged, fat, and don't really give a shit. You can't get an ought from an is, lol. They can tell you what is wrong with you but they're not necessarily saying you need to care about it.

As much as we like to take the piss out of politicians, it is a high-stress job that consumes one's entire life. I'm not surprised a woman of her age, in her career, looks like a sandbag stuffed with shit. She's known to smash the booze and probably isn't concerned with hitting the gym on a rare day off. Furthermore, it's not like she's been claiming to be a life-long fan of jogging or anything.

The Prime Minister must select their Cabinet from a small number of senior ministers who will then be appointed to manage specific policy areas (e.g. Health, Transport, Foreign Affairs, Defence, etc.). Old Jabba here has just been appointed Secretary of State for Health and Social Care this month and will mainly be focusing on ways to improve the UK's dire healthcare situation. Not that I have any faith in her to make improvements for the people in the most need, though.

[joswift]

To be honest, not really. And I know that sounds a bit absurd so I'll try to clarify. First, I'll focus on the UK role as that's where I'm from and I understand the position a bit better. Secondly, with regard to an interest in her own health, I'm sure she has an interest in staying alive and having access to good healthcare; the NHS did apparently nearly kill her by neglecting to spot meningitis once, so I'm sure from that standpoint she's interested in ways to improve it and cut costs.

But beyond that, no, I'm not really surprised she's a fat-ass. It's the same with many doctors I see. They're middle-aged, fat, and don't really give a shit. You can't get an ought from an is, lol. They can tell you what is wrong with you but they're not necessarily saying you need to care about it.

As much as we like to take the piss out of politicians, it is a high-stress job that consumes one's entire life. I'm not surprised a woman of her age, in her career, looks like a sandbag stuffed with shit. She's known to smash the booze and probably isn't concerned with hitting the gym on a rare day off. Furthermore, it's not like she's been claiming to be a life-long fan of jogging or anything.

The Prime Minister must select their Cabinet from a small number of senior ministers who will then be appointed to manage specific policy areas (e.g. Health, Transport, Foreign Affairs, Defence, etc.). Old Jabba here has just been appointed Secretary of State for Health and Social Care this month and will mainly be focusing on ways to improve the UK's dire healthcare situation. Not that I have any faith in her to make improvements for the people in the most need, though.

80% of nurses are way over weight, hard to do being so underpaid and overworked.

[Henda]

Is the chinky some sort of tranny or summat as don’t see the correlation if it’s just a normal slim old bag.
Would punch any of the 3 fat fucks straight in the face if any tried to tell me anything about how to be health especially the fucking fat tranny who I would likley stomp a few times also

[Phantom Spunker]

80% of nurses are way over weight, hard to do being so underpaid and overworked.

Not really. Most likely aren't gym-goers and cheap food is shit food. Long hours and short breaks usually means you just shovel any old shit into your mouth that's quick to heat up. Microwave rice, Pot Noodles, sugary drinks - all that crap. Throw in depression from being broke and dealing with retards for 12 hours a day and you've got a fat, miserable bastard waiting to explode out of you. Not that I'm justifying being a wader - just giving explanations. People should still take more personal responsibility.

[dj181]

Not really. Most likely aren't gym-goers and cheap food is shit food. Long hours and short breaks usually means you just shovel any old shit into your mouth that's quick to heat up. Microwave rice, Pot Noodles, sugary drinks - all that crap. Throw in depression from being broke and dealing with retards for 12 hours a day and you've got a fat, miserable bastard waiting to explode out of you. Not that I'm justifying being a wader - just giving explanations. People should still take more personal responsibility.

Get this shit. There's actually people promoting that being obese is healthy

[Kwon]

DUTCHER THAN HOT LOVE

[Phantom Spunker]

Get this shit. There's actually people promoting that being obese is healthy

I know, it's insane. Just weak, sad people trying in vain to make others as deluded as they are.

[Rusty Trombone]

DUTCHER THAN HOT LOVE

Lover than hot Dutch?

[SF1900]

Not really. Most likely aren't gym-goers and cheap food is shit food. Long hours and short breaks usually means you just shovel any old shit into your mouth that's quick to heat up. Microwave rice, Pot Noodles, sugary drinks - all that crap. Throw in depression from being broke and dealing with retards for 12 hours a day and you've got a fat, miserable bastard waiting to explode out of you. Not that I'm justifying being a wader - just giving explanations. People should still take more personal responsibility.

Nurses are broke where you’re from, PS?!

Nurses in the USA do quite alright. With OT, some can make well over 100k. In major cities, some nurses can start at 90k.

[Phantom Spunker]

Nurses are broke where you’re from, PS?!

Nurses in the USA do quite alright. With OT, some can make well over 100k. In major cities, some nurses can start at 90k.

Many of them, mate, yeah. It's a skilled, admirable role—my mother was a neonatal nurse (also not fat, lol)—but, as with most public sector roles here, the money is terrible until they've spent many years going up the pay bands. The average nurse will start off on around $28,000 here. Same deal for paramedics. Throw in the cost of living and student debts along with the stress of doing the job when they're understaffed, and you've got the disaster we have here now.

Senior nurses and paramedics are on good salaries, but they've endured years of hell to get there. I had a very senior nurse fly out to visit me in my location last year. She was this wonderfully brave, funny woman and I'm still in touch with her. By the sounds of what she endures down in London, her visit was a holiday.

A large portion of NHS staff, however, aren't even qualified nurses or paramedics. They're 'ambulance technicians' and 'assistants' who get paid minimum wage to do much of the same work. These are some key points from a nationwide survey by the Royal College of Nursing in 2017 (post-pandemic it's even worse):

■ (63%) nursing staff feel that they are too busy to provide the level of care they would like
and the same percentage feel that they are under too much pressure at work.

■ Seventy-one per cent work additional hours at least once a week but only half are paid for
these hours.

■ Over half (61%) now think that their pay band/grade is inappropriate, significantly up from
recent years, with particularly low satisfaction scores in the NHS among nurses in Band 5.

■ Dissatisfaction with pay band/grade is closely related to the sense that pay does not match the
level of responsibility, the duties or the intensity of the job.

■ Eight in ten nurses (79%) feel that staffing levels at their place of work are insufficient to meet
patient needs.

■ Three-quarters (77%) feel that patient care is compromised several times a month or more
because of short-staffing.

■ The majority of nursing staff (75%) feel financially worse off than they did five years ago. In the
NHS, this is more notable in Bands 6 and 7, implying a more widespread effect of the public
sector pay cap, which has been in place since 2010.

■ Almost three-quarters (74%) of nurses in Bands 1-4 report financial struggle. Over the past
year, 33 per cent of staff in Bands 1-4 report struggling to pay utility bills, 22 per cent report
missing or defaulting on mortgage or rent payments and 64 per cent report cutting back on
food or travel.

https://www.rcn.org.uk/professional-development/publications/pdf-007076

[G_Thang]

Many of them, mate, yeah. It's a skilled, admirable role - my mother was a neonatal nurse (also not fat, lol) - but, as with most public sector roles here, the money is terrible until they've spent many years going up the pay bands. The average nurse will start off on around $28,000 here. Same deal for paramedics. Throw in the cost of living and student debts along with the stress of doing the job when they're understaffed, and you've got the disaster we have here now.

Senior nurses and paramedics are on good salaries, but they've endured years of hell to get there. I had a very senior nurse fly out to visit me in my location last year. She was this wonderfully brave, funny woman and I'm still in touch with her. By the sounds of what she endures down in London, her visit was a holiday.

A large portion of NHS staff, however, aren't even qualified nurses or paramedics. They're 'ambulance technicians' and 'assistants' who get paid minimum wage to do much of the same work. These are some key points from a nationwide survery by the Royal College of Nursing in 2017 (post-pandemic it's even worse):

■ (63%) nursing staff feel that they are too busy to provide the level of care they would like
and the same percentage feel that they are under too much pressure at work.

■ Seventy-one per cent work additional hours at least once a week but only half are paid for
these hours.

■ Over half (61%) now think that their pay band/grade is inappropriate, significantly up from
recent years, with particularly low satisfaction scores in the NHS among nurses in Band 5.

■ Dissatisfaction with pay band/grade is closely related to the sense that pay does not match the
level of responsibility, the duties or the intensity of the job.

■ Eight in ten nurses (79%) feel that staffing levels at their place of work are insufficient to meet
patient needs.

■ Three-quarters (77%) feel that patient care is compromised several times a month or more
because of short-staffing.

■ The majority of nursing staff (75%) feel financially worse off than they did five years ago. In the
NHS, this is more notable in Bands 6 and 7, implying a more widespread effect of the public
sector pay cap, which has been in place since 2010.

■ Almost three-quarters (74%) of nurses in Bands 1-4 report financial struggle. Over the past
year, 33 per cent of staff in Bands 1-4 report struggling to pay utility bills, 22 per cent report
missing or defaulting on mortgage or rent payments and 64 per cent report cutting back on
food or travel.

https://www.rcn.org.uk/professional-development/publications/pdf-007076

with all that said, they are probably in the top 5% of professions with job security. that's what it is really about. new hires have some issues in places like cali and ny but go right over to the neighboring state, put in 3-5 and it's all guaranteed grunt work after that usually above the state avg with absolute JOB SECURITY. 

[Phantom Spunker]

with all that said, they are probably in the top 5% of professions with job security. that's what it is really about. new hires have some issues in places like cali and ny but go right over to the neighboring state, put in 3-5 and it's all guaranteed grunt work after that usually above the state avg with absolute JOB SECURITY.

A valid point, yeah. I agree.