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Re: Concealed Carry Weapon of Choice
« Reply #275 on: November 20, 2022, 12:13:33 PM »
We mag dump at the end of the day to clear mags then clear the guns on the firing line with a buddy check then instructors check. Mag dumps shouldn’t be any more than 20-60 rounds depending on mag capacity and how many on your person and used in a drill. It’s not necessary but kinda fun. 200 rounds should be a little more than warm up rounds in various warm up drills
20-60 rounds? Standard AR mag holds 30...ok, but even 15-17 in a pistol. How do you guys dump 60 rounds? I might dump the last mag, I would never reload and dump a second mag, that seems like quite the waste.
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Re: Concealed Carry Weapon of Choice
« Reply #276 on: November 20, 2022, 12:25:23 PM »
20-60 rounds? Standard AR mag holds 30...ok, but even 15-17 in a pistol. How do you guys dump 60 rounds? I might dump the last mag, I would never reload and dump a second mag, that seems like quite the waste.

It’s a good way to finish off with speed reloads, Tac reload and reloads with movement. I only have a few over capacity mags for both carbine and pistols. In my chest rig I’ll carry 3-4 AR mags on my gun belt 4-5 Glock mags.

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Re: Concealed Carry Weapon of Choice
« Reply #277 on: November 20, 2022, 12:43:15 PM »
20-60 rounds? Standard AR mag holds 30...ok, but even 15-17 in a pistol. How do you guys dump 60 rounds? I might dump the last mag, I would never reload and dump a second mag, that seems like quite the waste.

10 round limit here in assachusetts
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Re: Concealed Carry Weapon of Choice
« Reply #278 on: November 20, 2022, 12:50:38 PM »
10 round limit here in assachusetts

Here too but fuck ‘em’. As a matter of fact, from what I’ve read it was deemed unconstitutional and that ban will be lifted By Judge Benitez

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Re: Concealed Carry Weapon of Choice
« Reply #279 on: November 20, 2022, 12:52:42 PM »
10 round limit here in assachusetts


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Re: Concealed Carry Weapon of Choice
« Reply #280 on: November 20, 2022, 01:59:25 PM »
Looks like Pant-Shitter is condemning "gun violence" and not just "violence". Politicizing...
He never speaks about the open border and the horrific crimes going on there. The murders, trafficking, flood of fentanyl that kills, etc.
Or Chicongo and the weekly "illegal gun shootings" committed by Dindu's?

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Re: Concealed Carry Weapon of Choice
« Reply #281 on: November 20, 2022, 02:05:24 PM »
Looks like Pant-Shitter is condemning "gun violence" and not just "violence". Politicizing...
He never speaks about the open border and the horrific crimes going on there. The murders, trafficking, flood of fentanyl that kills, etc.
Or Chicongo and the weekly "illegal gun shootings" committed by Dindu's?

Like to try to take away from law-abiding folks.

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Re: Concealed Carry Weapon of Choice
« Reply #282 on: November 20, 2022, 02:07:48 PM »
10 round limit here in assachusetts
It's only illegal if you get caught. :D
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Re: Concealed Carry Weapon of Choice
« Reply #283 on: November 20, 2022, 02:10:27 PM »
It's only illegal if you get caught. :D

Fine for the range, but if I'm ever in an EDC situation where I actually need more than 10 rounds, I'm likely fucked anyway.
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Re: Concealed Carry Weapon of Choice
« Reply #284 on: November 20, 2022, 02:34:10 PM »
Fine for the range, but if I'm ever in an EDC situation where I actually need more than 10 rounds, I'm likely fucked anyway.

Carry an extra mag or 3

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Re: Concealed Carry Weapon of Choice
« Reply #285 on: November 20, 2022, 02:48:36 PM »
Fine for the range, but if I'm ever in an EDC situation where I actually need more than 10 rounds, I'm likely fucked anyway.
Carry an extra mag. Just get it seperatr, don't get those combo holsters, uncomfortable as hell.
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Re: Concealed Carry Weapon of Choice
« Reply #286 on: November 20, 2022, 04:08:00 PM »
Carry an extra mag. Just get it seperatr, don't get those combo holsters, uncomfortable as hell.

I don't want to look like this though:

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Re: Concealed Carry Weapon of Choice
« Reply #287 on: November 20, 2022, 04:12:45 PM »
Which is what I was kinda getting at.  200 rounds in an hour at the range seems excessive for a newb to retain any sort of muscle memory in basic mechanics like racking, trigger reset point, mag switching, emergency reloads, failures, etc.  During the ammo shortage & ridiculously high prices, I learned to do some basic drills reinforce skill, yet spare ammo.  I mostly train for personal / home defense, although I've taken a few tactical type classes.  One was a 4 day (Frontsight in NV) and we went through about 750 rounds that entire time.

I've found drills like this to be very helpful.

    Randomly load four different magazines with two to four rounds each. When done, shuffle them such that you can't tell which is which, or have a partner load and shuffle them for you. Load one magazine at random, chamber a round, holster your weapon and store the other three on your belt or on the bench in front of you.

    When ready, draw and fire two shots at the torso area of the target, then briefly pause and fire a third shot at the head. If you run empty before firing all three shots, perform an emergency reload and fire the remaining shots. Do not anticipate the reloads; focus on maintaining good two-handed shooting fundamentals until the potential need to reload becomes an actual need.

    Exercise extreme care when doing live-fire holster drills. If you have little or no experience drawing and quickly firing a loaded weapon, do so with exaggerated slowness at first. Maintain excellent trigger discipline and muzzle awareness all the way through the draw motion until you are fully extended and ready to fire. Worry about drawing and firing quickly only after many safe and successful repetitions at slow speeds.

    When you can quickly draw and fire two rounds to the torso and one to the head, reloading quickly as needed, then move the target farther downrange and/or move on to timed drills.
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    Randomly load four different magazines with two to six rounds each. Load exactly fifteen rounds between all four magazines. When done, shuffle them such that you can't tell which is which, or have your partner load and shuffle them for you. Load one magazine at random, chamber a round, holster your weapon and store the other three on your belt or on the bench in front of you.

    Wait for your partner to call a number. Draw and fire two shots at the torso of the corresponding target, then one to the head. If you run empty before firing all three shots, perform an emergency reload and fire the remaining shots. Do not anticipate the reloads; focus on maintaining good two-handed shooting fundamentals until the potential need to reload becomes an actual need.

    Exercise extreme care when doing live-fire holster drills. If you have little or no experience drawing and quickly firing a loaded weapon, do so with exaggerated slowness at first. Maintain excellent trigger discipline and muzzle awareness all the way through the draw motion until you are fully extended and ready to fire. Worry about drawing and firing quickly only after many safe and successful repetitions at slow speeds.

    Once you've fired the final shot at the target's head, your partner will call a different number. Engage that target in the same manner, reloading as necessary. Do not re-holster your weapon between targets.

    If your partner calls "reload" in between target engagements, perform an emergency reload if your current magazine is empty. Perform a tactical reload (retain the partially spent magazine) if your current magazine has rounds remaining.

    The drill concludes successfully once you've fired all fifteen rounds, three at each of the five targets, with ten clear body hits and five clear head hits.

    For advanced versions of this drill, vary the number and position of targets, vary the number of rounds in each magazine, and/or race against the clock.

I actually used to do something like this many years ago.

It's a good way to build muscle memory for reloading and changing positions/targets.

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Re: Concealed Carry Weapon of Choice
« Reply #288 on: November 21, 2022, 09:23:09 AM »
Fine for the range, but if I'm ever in an EDC situation where I actually need more than 10 rounds, I'm likely fucked anyway.
I carry a 21 round mag in my concealed gun own with another one owb

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Re: Concealed Carry Weapon of Choice
« Reply #289 on: November 21, 2022, 09:35:16 AM »
33 + 1 in the chamber.






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Re: Concealed Carry Weapon of Choice
« Reply #290 on: November 21, 2022, 06:28:51 PM »
33 + 1 in the chamber.




It’s always the dudes with the cheap ass lights lol

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Re: Concealed Carry Weapon of Choice
« Reply #291 on: November 21, 2022, 07:30:29 PM »
We mag dump at the end of the day to clear mags then clear the guns on the firing line with a buddy check then instructors check. Mag dumps shouldn’t be any more than 20-60 rounds depending on mag capacity and how many on your person and used in a drill. It’s not necessary but kinda fun. 200 rounds should be a little more than warm up rounds in various warm up drills
Most of what we do is controlled mag dumps once the timer goes off lol

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Re: Concealed Carry Weapon of Choice
« Reply #292 on: November 21, 2022, 09:15:59 PM »
Good video on your decision to carry. Like I said. I switched from my M&P 9 to my CZ 75



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Re: Concealed Carry Weapon of Choice
« Reply #293 on: November 22, 2022, 03:13:40 AM »
It’s always the dudes with the cheap ass lights lol

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LOL...didn't even notice that.  What kind of light do you have on your firearms?

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Re: Concealed Carry Weapon of Choice
« Reply #294 on: November 22, 2022, 06:21:40 AM »
LOL...didn't even notice that.  What kind of light do you have on your firearms?
I either run the surefire x300 or the streamlight tlr1 hl..I actually prefer the streamlight which is significantly cheaper due to the controls

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Re: Concealed Carry Weapon of Choice
« Reply #295 on: November 22, 2022, 06:29:56 AM »
I either run the surefire x300 or the streamlight tlr1 hl..I actually prefer the streamlight which is significantly cheaper due to the controls

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Re: Concealed Carry Weapon of Choice
« Reply #296 on: November 27, 2022, 01:09:34 PM »
Started shooting the p320 max since my p320 spectre comp exploded…I like the max so much better

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Re: Concealed Carry Weapon of Choice
« Reply #297 on: November 27, 2022, 01:28:57 PM »
I either run the surefire x300 or the streamlight tlr1 hl..I actually prefer the streamlight which is significantly cheaper due to the controls

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I have a few Streamlight tlr-1's great light, controls are super easy.
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Re: Concealed Carry Weapon of Choice
« Reply #298 on: November 27, 2022, 04:35:47 PM »
I have a few Streamlight tlr-1's great light, controls are super easy.
I’ve only had one break (pre HL model) and streamlight had it back to me in a week..didn’t even break, LED just got super dim.

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Re: Concealed Carry Weapon of Choice
« Reply #299 on: November 27, 2022, 04:41:33 PM »
I carry a concealed off and on, depending... I Don't know what they call it, I just know the sound it makes when it takes a life...