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Killer Sally (Netflix doc)
« on: October 19, 2022, 03:08:47 PM »
There is a documentary about Sally McNeil coming out on Netflix.

If this is a repost, I don't give a shit.

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Re: Killer Sally (Netflix doc)
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2022, 03:13:39 PM »
Ha, you could tell Sally wanted to talk about Ray's big old dick some more. I'd loved to see the outtakes from this.

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Re: Killer Sally (Netflix doc)
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2022, 03:16:17 PM »
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Re: Killer Sally (Netflix doc)
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2022, 03:30:19 PM »


Anybody else laugh out loud when they saw this?


Rest in Eternal Schmoeace…

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Re: Killer Sally (Netflix doc)
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2022, 03:31:30 PM »
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Re: Killer Sally (Netflix doc)
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2022, 03:42:55 PM »


Anybody else laugh out loud when they saw this?


Rest in Eternal Schmoeace…

That Larry Csonka looking fellow is Bill Wick, female wrestling impresario  -

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4:29 in.

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Re: Killer Sally (Netflix doc)
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2022, 03:43:50 PM »
Some women don't take kindly to disrespect.

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Re: Killer Sally (Netflix doc)
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2022, 03:45:02 PM »
Can Getbig put together a documentary about how George Farrah lied about being a hero cop?

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Re: Killer Sally (Netflix doc)
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2022, 03:45:32 PM »
That Larry Csonka looking fellow is Bill Wick, female wrestling impresario  -

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4:29 in.

Hahaha! How do you know this shit!? Are you the guy from the Discovery Channel schmoe documentary? “Muscle women are awesome!” *gay southern voice*

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Re: Killer Sally (Netflix doc)
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2022, 03:50:27 PM »
That Larry Csonka looking fellow is Bill Wick, female wrestling impresario  -

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4:29 in.
haha I wore number 39 in high school because Csonka was my favorite player.Thanks for the memory

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Re: Killer Sally (Netflix doc)
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2022, 03:55:42 PM »
Hahaha! How do you know this shit!? Are you the guy from the Discovery Channel schmoe documentary? “Muscle women are awesome!” *gay southern voice*

https://www.clips4sale.com/studio/57419/bill-wick-wrestling-videos .

The description of his videos are hilarious, e.g. -

"I know you know Sally McNell!! She travels all over the country wrestling men. She'll be glad to squeeze your guts out, or pop your head like a grape. Sally is 5'3,150 lbs. John steals Sally's lemons - Sally squeezes the lemon juice out of John with legs that actually break his ribs...for real - accidentally of course! You'll like Sally. John doesn't drink lemonade anymore. Don't ever touch her lemons! A knock out neck scissors using her muscular ass and thighs followed by a continuing beating of this poor guy should convince him to never eat a Lemon again. Sally McNeil never met a man she couldn't knock out .........ONCE SHE GETS TURNED ON BY THE SQUEEZING."


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Re: Killer Sally (Netflix doc)
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2022, 01:52:35 AM »
Seems like the doc portraits her as being the victim.

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Re: Killer Sally (Netflix doc)
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2022, 02:01:13 AM »
https://www.clips4sale.com/studio/57419/bill-wick-wrestling-videos .

The description of his videos are hilarious, e.g. -

"I know you know Sally McNell!! She travels all over the country wrestling men. She'll be glad to squeeze your guts out, or pop your head like a grape. Sally is 5'3,150 lbs. John steals Sally's lemons - Sally squeezes the lemon juice out of John with legs that actually break his ribs...for real - accidentally of course! You'll like Sally. John doesn't drink lemonade anymore. Don't ever touch her lemons! A knock out neck scissors using her muscular ass and thighs followed by a continuing beating of this poor guy should convince him to never eat a Lemon again. Sally McNeil never met a man she couldn't knock out .........ONCE SHE GETS TURNED ON BY THE SQUEEZING."
I remember those video ads in the mags when I was a kid. I knew the girls wrestling guys was obviously sexual but couldn't figure out why any guy would pay a male bodybuilder to "work out" with him at his house. ;D I wish I still didn't know.

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Re: Killer Sally (Netflix doc)
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2022, 06:36:30 AM »
What a time to be alive.

Let's hope there's more documentaries about great bodybuilding events, e.g. like the Mirage of the Ice Machine


With Bob Chick sitting down with his XXXL jacket on looking back and thanking the ice machine for making him who he is today


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Re: Killer Sally (Netflix doc)
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2022, 10:45:30 AM »
I just want to know did his wig stay on after she blasted him.  Imagine laying there dying, the paramedics arriving as you are weakly struggling to adjust your dome rug.

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Re: Killer Sally (Netflix doc)
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2022, 10:49:19 AM »
I still have the issue of Flex magazine, interviewing Sally McNeil from prison from 1996 (October issue, with Cory Everson on the cover; I think that's also a lingerie/swimsuit issue, too).

There was a Getbigger here who was fascinated with this story. When I mentioned I had this article, she asked me to e-mail her a copy after scanning it on my computer (I think her handle was Medford).

Sally McNeil would go through jealous rages, because Ray was a ho. She found a letter some chick wrote her husband, describing how this gal was blowing him and she went off.

Plus, Ray was abusive; Sally suspected Ray was gay, because she claimed he liked to sodomize her after beating her. She had a thing for black men. If I'm not mistaken, her kids are from another black man, not Ray. Ray would go nuts if one of kids ate one of his chicken breasts, according to Sally.

This was a toxic marriage, to say the least. Ray hit her one time too many and Sally blasted him. I think had she not shot him a second time, she would have walked on a self-defense charge.

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Re: Killer Sally (Netflix doc)
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2022, 10:53:12 AM »
I still have the issue of Flex magazine, interviewing Sally McNeil from prison from 1996 (October issue, with Cory Everson on the cover; I think that's also a lingerie/swimsuit issue, too).

There was a Getbigger here who was fascinated with this story. When I mentioned I had this article, she asked me to e-mail her a copy after scanning it on my computer (I think her handle was Medford).

Sally McNeil would go through jealous rages, because Ray was a ho. She found a letter some chick wrote her husband, describing how this gal was blowing him and she went off.

Plus, Ray was abusive; Sally suspected Ray was gay, because she claimed he liked to sodomize her after beating her. She had a thing for black men. If I'm not mistaken, her kids are from another black man, not Ray. Ray would go nuts if one of kids ate one of his chicken breasts, according to Sally.

This was a toxic marriage, to say the least. Ray hit her one time too many and Sally blasted him. I think had she not shot him a second time, she would have walked on a self-defense charge.

1-  I remember reading this.  But after all that talk about how big his dick was and her practically having an orgasm at the thought of it....  makes me wonder if she was complaining about getting ass fucked or bragging.

2-  I am probably wrong, but I remember reading that she got mad and started a fight because she bought chicken breasts that night and Ray was cooking and eating "the good ones"

3-  Yeah, one shot would have gotten her off but I think she realized that he would never come back to her after that and she couldn't bear the thought of him screwing other people and not her.

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Re: Killer Sally (Netflix doc)
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2022, 11:19:57 AM »
1-  I remember reading this.  But after all that talk about how big his dick was and her practically having an orgasm at the thought of it....  makes me wonder if she was complaining about getting ass fucked or bragging.

2-  I am probably wrong, but I remember reading that she got mad and started a fight because she bought chicken breasts that night and Ray was cooking and eating "the good ones"

3-  Yeah, one shot would have gotten her off but I think she realized that he would never come back to her after that and she couldn't bear the thought of him screwing other people and not her.

One quick trip to the garage, and I can find that magazine. I saw it earlier while cleaning up and putting more recent publications on the shelf.

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Re: Killer Sally (Netflix doc)
« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2022, 11:25:55 AM »
Got it! Page 232. It appears we were both off a bit with #2. It wasn't chicken breasts; it was steak.

"He felt obligated to stay with me for all the things I was doing for him. I paid the bills. I was his meal ticket. He said he loved my kids, but I don't believe it. A day or two before the incident, he yelled at Shantina for eating one of his steaks. He was very greedy----I'd buy 16 steaks and he'd give us three.

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Re: Killer Sally (Netflix doc)
« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2022, 11:26:03 AM »
Yes, Medford was our Sally source. I saw her in the wild talking about Sally a few months ago.

Other stuff -

Ray's roommate was Michio Grubbs, an up and coming bodybuilder. Sally used to imply they had a thing going on. Grubbs is friends with Dante "Dogcrapp" Trudel, and he used to try and clear their names all the time.

Her Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=117665706775733&set=a.117665723442398 .

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From one of her appeals -

"McNeil and Ray were both former [M]arines, bodybuilders and steroid users.   Their relationship was replete with violent altercations. Evidence was introduced that McNeil had hit Ray and threw things at him, including dumbbells and a VCR that she threw out a second story window as Ray was walking below, and that Ray had hit, kicked and pushed McNeil leaving her with bruises and black eyes. Evidence was also introduced that McNeil had several violent altercations with others, including women she suspected Ray was having affairs with, barroom bouncers, and the police.

On the night of the shooting, Ray said he was going out to the Price Club, which closed at 8:30 p.m., to get chicken for dinner. However, he did not return until 10:30 p.m., and had gone to a more expensive market. Ray had had several affairs during the course of the marriage, and McNeil suspected he had been seeing a girlfriend. McNeil criticized Ray for getting the more expensive chicken, which she could not afford, and asked what had taken him so long and if he had been with his girlfriend. She also told him he looked like “shit” and would not do well in an upcoming bodybuilding contest.

McNeil told police that Ray then slapped her, pushed her down on the floor and started choking her.   McNeil squirmed away, ran into the bedroom and took her shotgun out of its case in the closet. She grabbed two shells, loaded one, pumped the gun, and then “went out and aimed it at [Ray]” and shot him. At the time, Ray was at the kitchen stove cooking chicken. McNeil stated that after Ray was shot, he doubled over and then came towards her, so she loaded the second round, pumped the gun again, and shot him a second time.

After that, McNeil gave the shotgun to a neighbor, and called 911.The 911 operator who took the call testified that she heard a male, who had been moaning, ask:  “Why did you shoot me?” and McNeil respond:  “I told you that I wasn't taking your shit anymore.”

When police arrived, Ray was on his hands and knees about five feet inside the apartment and McNeil was standing at the kitchen sink.   It looked like Ray's face had been blown off from the bridge of his nose down, and he was saying “Why?[,]” “Oh God,” and “Help me.”  When paramedics arrived, Ray pointed to his stomach, and they saw his liver protruding through the skin. Ray was taken to the hospital and died that night.   The shotgun wound to his midsection was the one that caused his death;  the shotgun blast to his face caused massive damage to his lower jaw and face.

A police criminologist testified that the weapon used was a 12-gauge pump shotgun with a pistol grip, which was fired at Ray's midsection and then at his face from about six feet away.   A crime scene reconstructionist opined that Ray's head was close to, and in line with, the sofa cushions when he was shot in the face, which would indicate that Ray was not upright when he was shot a second time.

Police discovered fingernail marks on McNeil's neck the night of the shooting and Ray's body was exhumed so that his fingernails could be examined. His fingernails were very short, and it was determined that his hands could not have caused the marks on McNeil's neck and further, that the marks were inconsistent with manual strangulation and could have been self-inflicted."

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F3/344/988/602975/ .

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Re: Killer Sally (Netflix doc)
« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2022, 01:41:27 PM »
Yes, Medford was our Sally source. I saw her in the wild talking about Sally a few months ago.

Other stuff -

Ray's roommate was Michio Grubbs, an up and coming bodybuilder. Sally used to imply they had a thing going on. Grubbs is friends with Dante "Dogcrapp" Trudel, and he used to try and clear their names all the time.

Her Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=117665706775733&set=a.117665723442398 .

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From one of her appeals -

"McNeil and Ray were both former [M]arines, bodybuilders and steroid users.   Their relationship was replete with violent altercations. Evidence was introduced that McNeil had hit Ray and threw things at him, including dumbbells and a VCR that she threw out a second story window as Ray was walking below, and that Ray had hit, kicked and pushed McNeil leaving her with bruises and black eyes. Evidence was also introduced that McNeil had several violent altercations with others, including women she suspected Ray was having affairs with, barroom bouncers, and the police.

On the night of the shooting, Ray said he was going out to the Price Club, which closed at 8:30 p.m., to get chicken for dinner. However, he did not return until 10:30 p.m., and had gone to a more expensive market. Ray had had several affairs during the course of the marriage, and McNeil suspected he had been seeing a girlfriend. McNeil criticized Ray for getting the more expensive chicken, which she could not afford, and asked what had taken him so long and if he had been with his girlfriend. She also told him he looked like “shit” and would not do well in an upcoming bodybuilding contest.

McNeil told police that Ray then slapped her, pushed her down on the floor and started choking her.   McNeil squirmed away, ran into the bedroom and took her shotgun out of its case in the closet. She grabbed two shells, loaded one, pumped the gun, and then “went out and aimed it at [Ray]” and shot him. At the time, Ray was at the kitchen stove cooking chicken. McNeil stated that after Ray was shot, he doubled over and then came towards her, so she loaded the second round, pumped the gun again, and shot him a second time.

After that, McNeil gave the shotgun to a neighbor, and called 911.The 911 operator who took the call testified that she heard a male, who had been moaning, ask:  “Why did you shoot me?” and McNeil respond:  “I told you that I wasn't taking your shit anymore.”

When police arrived, Ray was on his hands and knees about five feet inside the apartment and McNeil was standing at the kitchen sink.   It looked like Ray's face had been blown off from the bridge of his nose down, and he was saying “Why?[,]” “Oh God,” and “Help me.”  When paramedics arrived, Ray pointed to his stomach, and they saw his liver protruding through the skin. Ray was taken to the hospital and died that night.   The shotgun wound to his midsection was the one that caused his death;  the shotgun blast to his face caused massive damage to his lower jaw and face.

A police criminologist testified that the weapon used was a 12-gauge pump shotgun with a pistol grip, which was fired at Ray's midsection and then at his face from about six feet away.   A crime scene reconstructionist opined that Ray's head was close to, and in line with, the sofa cushions when he was shot in the face, which would indicate that Ray was not upright when he was shot a second time.

Police discovered fingernail marks on McNeil's neck the night of the shooting and Ray's body was exhumed so that his fingernails could be examined. His fingernails were very short, and it was determined that his hands could not have caused the marks on McNeil's neck and further, that the marks were inconsistent with manual strangulation and could have been self-inflicted."

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F3/344/988/602975/ .

 Michio Grubbs? Wasn't he a lightweight national champion, sponsored by Designer Protein for a minute?

Interesting!! According to Sally, Ray FORBADE her to hang out with any other black men. White dudes could be her buddies all day; but no brothers, out of fear one of them might try to holler at her (hypocrisy at its finest, considering all the whoring around he was doing).

1-  I remember reading this.  But after all that talk about how big his dick was and her practically having an orgasm at the thought of it....  makes me wonder if she was complaining about getting ass fucked or bragging.


Per this Flex article, she preferred it....how do you say.....in the pink, not in the stink. Plus, she claimed his love tackle exceeded 10 inches.

Page 222, "He got off beating on me. He'd sodomized me afterward. He had a hard-on when he was choking me that night."

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Re: Killer Sally (Netflix doc)
« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2022, 01:52:43 PM »
Michio Grubbs? Wasn't he a lightweight national champion, sponsored by Designer Protein for a minute?

Interesting!! According to Sally, Ray FORBADE her to hang out with any other black men. White dudes could be her buddies all day; but no brothers, out of fear one of them might try to holler at her (hypocrisy at its finest, considering all the whoring around he was doing).


Yep, Here's Dante talking about it -

http://forums.rxmuscle.com/showthread.php?21543-Sally-McNeil-Exclusive-Interview-Why-I-Murdered-My-Husband-Ray-McNeil-Part-1!&p=605781&viewfull=1#post605781 .

That thread is good, someone claiming to be one of her kids even shows up -

http://forums.rxmuscle.com/showthread.php?21543-Sally-McNeil-Exclusive-Interview-Why-I-Murdered-My-Husband-Ray-McNeil-Part-1!&p=1406525&viewfull=1#post1406525 .


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« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2022, 02:00:12 PM »
Yep, Here's Dante talking about it -

http://forums.rxmuscle.com/showthread.php?21543-Sally-McNeil-Exclusive-Interview-Why-I-Murdered-My-Husband-Ray-McNeil-Part-1!&p=605781&viewfull=1#post605781 .

That thread is good, someone claiming to be one of her kids even shows up -

http://forums.rxmuscle.com/showthread.php?21543-Sally-McNeil-Exclusive-Interview-Why-I-Murdered-My-Husband-Ray-McNeil-Part-1!&p=1406525&viewfull=1#post1406525 .

I'll take a look and compare it to the one in my FLEX magazine from October 1996 (confirmation - it is the lingerie issue  ;D ).

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Re: Killer Sally (Netflix doc)
« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2022, 02:04:00 PM »
Article from Rx Muscle where Sally makes claims, transposed here so it doesn't get lost -


SALLY MCNEIL... THIS IS MY STORY: PART 1

Written by Leigh Penman

In April 1996, professional bodybuilder Sally McNeil was given a sentence of 19 years-life for the shotgun slaying of her husband (and fellow bodybuilder) Ray McNeil. 

It was no secret that Sally and Ray had a volatile relationship and had fought violently on many occasions, mostly triggered by Ray's many affairs with other women. However, on Valentine's Day 1995 the fight between the pair (reportedly about the cost of the chicken Ray was cooking) would be their last.

Sally McNeil was convicted of second-degree murder and sent to prison. Court records from the time state that she was not given the chance to argue that the death was manslaughter and that she was indeed ‘psychologically damaged' from Ray's abuse.

Up until now, little has been heard from Sally (for obvious reasons!). However, for the first time ever, we present to you Sally's full  account  of events on that fateful night.  We also get some insight as to how she's feeling today and what her plans are for when she's finally released...


First of all, for those unfamiliar with your case, tell us when you were arrested and how long your prison sentence was?


"I was arrested early in the morning of 15th February 1995. The police took me in after I called 911. They questioned me, my children and neighbors all through the night. On 19th March 1996 I was found guilty of 2nd degree murder and on 19th April 1996 I was sentenced to 19 years to life.

"In the state of California, lifers do not get half time. Once we have done 85% of our time we go in front of a Parole Board to see if they will grant Parole. I knew a woman named Lori Sue who did 31 years on a 7 to life...a woman named Karen did 24 years on a 15 to life sentence. I have been incarcerated now for 13 years."

In your absence from the scene how do you feel about the way you have been presented on the Internet?

"From the stuff my friends send me, I have not been represented fairly on the Internet. I should never have done that Teagan Clive interview in 1996 after I was convicted of 2nd degree murder. I wanted to tell my side of the story, so I told her what really happened. She put what I said sure, but underneath it she put the DA's version of events and his motive was to win at all costs. My military (Sally is a former marine) health records were mysteriously incomplete. All the injuries I suffered were not mentioned.

"Ray was very insecure and this made him very jealous. He was afraid of losing me to somebody who would have treated me better. He broke my little toe in Okinawa, Japan when he threw me out of the bath tub. He broke my nose when he punched me in the face because I told him the reason my shoulders were not developed (or ‘weak' as he said) was because he wrenched my shoulder so badly. At this time I didn't know he partially tore my rotator cuff. I should not have been lifting weights or bodybuilding as the doctor told me that the injury I had was a career destroyer for a bodybuilder. I was determined not to give up though and was in denial about how bad it really hurt.

"I reported the injury but didn't tell the doctors what really happened so they didn't do an x-ray. I was afraid of getting Ray into trouble. I was afraid of losing Ray. Looking back I realize I was a classic case of Battered Wife Syndrome. I was in denial that Ray was abusive to me. My self esteem was so low. I didn't think I could attract another man like Ray. I felt I was lucky to have him."

Your life with Ray seems to have been very turbulent. Did you ever consider leaving him before events escalated the way they did?

"My life with Ray was very turbulent. I left him about three times and he followed me to my new address. I was preparing to move back east where I was brought up and to the home I grew up in, but I didn't make it. Looking back, I should have left him after the 3rd day of our marriage. He beat me up because the Warrant Officer who was in charge of me told Ray he should not have married me because I was ‘used goods'. Ray got mad because I had dated two other guys before I met him. I was beaten up unmercifully. This beating was unprovoked on my side."

The violence in your relationship has been linked by some to anabolic steroid use, care to comment...

"Yes, anabolic steroid use was the root of Ray's violence towards me. When Ray and I first got married in 1987, I had no idea that he was on steroids. So I did not know that he was suffering from ‘roid rage' when he'd fly off the handle and beat the holy hell out of me. He threw me across the room when he saw me talking to another guy when I was at work. He picked me up like a rag doll the minute we got home and just threw me across the room. He broke my coccyx bone in my back tail bone. This injury still bothers me. My back is always going out on me. It hurts to sit down. When I get up from being seated it takes about 10 steps before I can loosen up and straighten up. It is hard to lift things.

"Over in Okinawa, Japan where we lived off base, Ray beat me over 52 times in that year over there because he was having roid rages. One of those times was because I would not write a list of all the men I had dated...Ray choked me three times, on the third time I had spasms. When I came around I ran out of our apartment in my bra and bike pants. I hid in the bushes, more afraid of Ray than the poisonous snakes that lived there. Ray called to me and apologized to me. He confessed he was on steroids and had been having a ‘roid rage'. He said he had no idea what he did to me. So that was my introduction to steroids. I was so new to the sport at that time that I did not know about steroids.

"Ray's toxicology reports state that he had 5 different steroids in his system. I was not on steroids at the time of the incident. I had used Deca Durabolin for the Nationals in September of 1994, so I tested positive for Deca because it stays in the system up to 18 months. There have been many female athletes in bodybuilding that were disqualified at the North America for testing positive for Deca. I did not use a lot of steroids. I had bills to pay and children to take care of. My priorities were straight. The children came first. I did not want the bad side effects females can get. I never used testosterones because they cause facial hair, male pattern baldness and a voice as deep as Barry White. I have no side effects from over using steroids. I would be a misfit in prison if I had to shave my face or had male pattern balding and a very deep voice."

It has been reported that Ray had several affairs during the course of your marriage. Many women would have left him for that reason alone. Why did you choose to stay?

"Yes Ray had many affairs. I tried to stick through it, thick or thin, for better or worse. He always came back to me. Once these women realized Ray couldn't leave me they left him. Some woman (name deleted) had an abortion according to Ray because he couldn't leave me. I should have left him because one thing I was afraid of was catching HIV, AIDS, Hep C or any kind of STD.

I could give you a long list of women Ray had affairs with - one of them even had the nerve to testify against me during my trial. Yes I should have left him but my self esteem was so beaten down by him that I thought he was the best I could get."

You have often been portrayed as the ‘bully' and provoker in your marriage. How do you feel about this?

"I was not the bully or provoker in my marriage. If a guy is beating you up because he mistrusts you, wouldn't you be angry when you discover he is fooling around on you?

"I wasn't jealous, I was deathly afraid of catching a disease such as HIV, Hep C or some awful STD as I said before. I didn't deserve that. I did nothing to deserve the beatings Ray handed out. I believe Ray's homosexual boyfriends (names deleted) made me out to be the bully. I would never provoke a 260lbs professional bodybuilder. One time when I hit Ray back after he brutally beat me it made the beating worse. He broke my rib and punctured my lung. My military records have this injury reported. On that final night I felt as though I would not survive that choking or throughout the night. I panicked. Ray weighed 260lbs a hundred pounds more than me.

"Ray's boyfriends lied about me during the trial. I have proof. One of them said he spotted me benching 255lbs...that is not true. In power lifting the most I ever benched was 225lbs. The DA pulled so many pages out of my military health records it is unreal...he even pulled the births of my children.

"Men who cheat are insecure so they accuse us women of cheating because they feel if they are cheating so are you. One of Ray's boyfriends (name deleted) lived with us for almost two years. I asked Ray to please tell him to move out. He was mean to my children. He would lock them out of the house when I was not home. He and Ray must have been in the apartment having sex and didn't want to get walked in on by my children or caught in the gay act.

"Due to the fact that I was the reason Ray's boyfriend had to move out of the apartment (I refused to take care of two grown men!) he lied when he testified against me. He actually saw Ray beat me on many occasions. One time I begged him for help and he didn't lift a finger. It seemed to me that he encouraged Ray's abusive behavior towards me. I did not deserve to be abused and mistreated. Ray's boyfriends all lied on the witness stand...and the DA allowed it."

Coming up next....Sally talks about that fateful night in detail and discusses her life in prison and her plans for the future.

 

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Re: Killer Sally (Netflix doc)
« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2022, 02:09:15 PM »
why isnt she banging on about the anal fucking anymore?