Killer Sally - Netflix - Review and Discussion Thread

[aks2161989]

Are you saying he deserved to die because he was black or because Sally couldn't take a punch from a real man (dont forget she really abused those innocent schmoe's).

I was saying, Ray was no angel and was very likely beating Sally up. To add to that he was living off her like a parasite, telling her to sacrifice her dreams and cheating with multiple women. I would not blame Sally even if this was a premeditated murder

[Dave D]

I was saying, Ray was no angel and was very likely beating Sally up. To add to that he was living off her like a parasite, telling her to sacrifice her dreams and cheating with multiple women. I would not blame Sally even if this was a premeditated murder

I see what you’re saying; Ray deserved to die because he was a cheat, hand a mediocre physique for a 90’s era professional, violent, cooked chicken breast on the stovetop, didn’t have career and wasn’t a supportive husband but do you really think Sally was a good wife?

But let’s at least look at the facts. Sally spent a decade as a military employee. And the results of Rays death would indicate  she wasn’t a very good marine, as it took two blasts from a shotgun at point blank range  and several hours to kill Ray. She couldn’t even master the most basic skill of killing her “enemy” after a decade of being focused on that very specific skillset. She was a horrific shooter.

I’d also like to point out  Ray was her second husband after her first marriage ended in divorce.

Based on that information alone what makes you think she was even a serviceable wife, let alone a good one?

Also based on the amount of illegal male hormones Sally was on she was more man than woman so I’d say you’re looking at this all wrong.

I’m going out on a limb here and I’m going to say Ray was the real victim in this situation.

[Mothballs]

Had Sally been born 30 years later she’d be the UFC champ today!

[aks2161989]

I see what you’re saying; Ray deserved to die because he was a cheat, hand a mediocre physique for a 90’s era professional, violent, cooked chicken breast on the stovetop, didn’t have career and wasn’t a supportive husband but do you really think Sally was a good wife?

But let’s at least look at the facts. Sally spent a decade as a military employee. And the results of Rays death would indicate  she wasn’t a very good marine, as it took two blasts from a shotgun at point blank range  and several hours to kill Ray. She couldn’t even master the most basic skill of killing her “enemy” after a decade of being focused on that very specific skillset. She was a horrific shooter.

I’d also like to point out  Ray was her second husband after her first marriage ended in divorce.

Based on that information alone what makes you think she was even a serviceable wife, let alone a good one?

Also based on the amount of illegal male hormones Sally was on she was more man than woman so I’d say you’re looking at this all wrong.

I’m going out on a limb here and I’m going to say Ray was the real victim in this situation.

Sally was MORE than a good wife. She was the best wife one can ever get. She sacrificed her bodybuilding dreams because Ray wanted her to spend money on his training, she smuggled drugs from Tijuana Mexico in America just for Ray and she travelled the country wrestling people so she could get more money for Ray. Sally ignored Ray's numerous affairs. In fact I envy Ray that Ray got such a devoted wife.

How did Ray repay her?
- never got a job
- continued his affairs
- siphoned off her money for 8 years (like a parasite) then wanted to leave her for another woman

Even if Sally murdered him, it was okay

BTW I wonder why she only dated blacks. Her first BF in 9th grade was black, her first husband was black, Ray Mcneill was black. Heck even after getting out of prison she married a black guy. Why?

[ChristopherA]

Sally was MORE than a good wife. She was the best wife one can ever get. She sacrificed her bodybuilding dreams because Ray wanted her to spend money on his training, she smuggled drugs from Tijuana Mexico in America just for Ray and she travelled the country wrestling people so she could get more money for Ray. Sally ignored Ray's numerous affairs. In fact I envy Ray that Ray got such a devoted wife.

How did Ray repay her?
- never got a job
- continued his affairs
- siphoned off her money for 8 years (like a parasite) then wanted to leave her for another woman

Even if Sally murdered him, it was okay

BTW I wonder why she only dated blacks. Her first BF in 9th grade was black, her first husband was black, Ray Mcneill was black. Heck even after getting out of prison she married a black guy. Why?

Read your last paragraph. Sally couldn't be the victim.  She was a filthy mudshshark with her mudblood brood. You can't blame Ray. A dog is always going to be a dog

[Dave D]

Sally was MORE than a good wife. She was the best wife one can ever get. She sacrificed her bodybuilding dreams because Ray wanted her to spend money on his training, she smuggled drugs from Tijuana Mexico in America just for Ray and she travelled the country wrestling people so she could get more money for Ray. Sally ignored Ray's numerous affairs. In fact I envy Ray that Ray got such a devoted wife.

How did Ray repay her?
- never got a job
- continued his affairs
- siphoned off her money for 8 years (like a parasite) then wanted to leave her for another woman

Even if Sally murdered him, it was okay

BTW I wonder why she only dated blacks. Her first BF in 9th grade was black, her first husband was black, Ray Mcneill was black. Heck even after getting out of prison she married a black guy. Why?

Ray was a bouncer, in addition to being an ifbb pro. He had 2 jobs. That's a fact.

Sally was not a good wife. She spent $24,000 on anabolic's so Ray could finish 15th at the Olympia. A good wife would never let their spouse finish so badly. She obviously didn't understand that he either a) didn't have the generics for the sport or b) needed another $20k to prep for Olympia. She was dumb.


You ask why she likes black men, I'll ask why you still lust for Sally. You cant explain why schmoe squats turn you on, but you know why Sally liking other races makes you angry. Why cant you be honest with yourself?

[aks2161989]

Ray was a bouncer, in addition to being an ifbb pro. He had 2 jobs. That's a fact.

Sally was not a good wife. She spent $24,000 on anabolic's so Ray could finish 15th at the Olympia. A good wife would never let their spouse finish so badly. She obviously didn't understand that he either a) didn't have the generics for the sport or b) needed another $20k to prep for Olympia. She was dumb.


You ask why she likes black men, I'll ask why you still lust for Sally. You cant explain why schmoe squats turn you on, but you know why Sally liking other races makes you angry. Why cant you be honest with yourself?

Ray USED to work as a bouncer. Even in the Netflix documentary his friends say "Ray had no job" and "Sally used to earn more money". IFBB Pro? Puhleese...... that was the 90s. Even the Olympia winner used to take away only $100K-$150K back then.

Why don't you admit Ray was a parasite who liked to live off somebody else's money and abuse them at the same time?

And I don't care about Sally's affinity to black men (since I am neither black nor white). I just find it strange that she dated blacks when it was seriously taboo. She didn't find one guy of her own race attractive/worthy in 40+ years of dating? Strange

[Dave D]

Ray USED to work as a bouncer. Even in the Netflix documentary his friends say "Ray had no job" and "Sally used to earn more money". IFBB Pro? Puhleese...... that was the 90s. Even the Olympia winner used to take away only $100K-$150K back then.

Why don't you admit Ray was a parasite who liked to live off somebody else's money and abuse them at the same time?

And I don't care about Sally's affinity to black men (since I am neither black nor white). I just find it strange that she dated blacks when it was seriously taboo. She didn't find one guy of her own race attractive/worthy in 40+ years of dating? Strange

You do care that Sally loves black men.
You keep bringing it up.
No else even mentioned Ray being black but you keep talking about. Why do love white muscle women so much? Stick with your own women and don’t be racist.

Sally was abusive. Wrestling schmoes was not a job. It was a form of prostitution, you could say Ray was her employer. As her manager that was a job.

Plus he was raising her kids while she was traveling the country wrestling the perverts. Being a stay at home dad is a career.

You’re a very messed up person with your antiquated sexist racist thoughts.

[aks2161989]

...Stick with your own women and don’t be racist.

*How to contradict yourself in one sentence-101*

[JackTheRipper]

I watched this...black loving whore 

[GymnJuice]

Ray USED to work as a bouncer. Even in the Netflix documentary his friends say "Ray had no job" and "Sally used to earn more money". IFBB Pro? Puhleese...... that was the 90s. Even the Olympia winner used to take away only $100K-$150K back then.

Why don't you admit Ray was a parasite who liked to live off somebody else's money and abuse them at the same time?

And I don't care about Sally's affinity to black men (since I am neither black nor white). I just find it strange that she dated blacks when it was seriously taboo. She didn't find one guy of her own race attractive/worthy in 40+ years of dating? Strange

The documentary mentioned her having a black boyfriend in 9th grade and her parents getting angry about it. Maybe she did it at first to piss them off and then ended up going black and never going back. 

[Dave D]

*How to contradict yourself in one sentence-101*

I’m assuming you’re a (lesbian) woman? I apologize if you are not. Your whole stance is very confusing if you’re not a woman.

[The Scott]

He's not that good.  At all.

[Dalnet]

According to Sally he looked like shit going into his next contest that he never made it to.

Well - a blown up gut was still acceptable back then; he would have blended in well. Technically, she did him a favour. Not sure about the missing jaw although I suspect that wouldn't have been an issue judging wise. He would have nailed the death face - even surpassed Dorian's, in my humble opinion.

[joswift]

guy would likely have suffered the same fate as McCarver if he had made it through the incident because he couldnt chew his food.

[J. Richards]

like alot of BBer's,,,  Ray looked better a week out or a week after..no homo...  he was a strong bastard, Sally was no slouch either.  Trained occasionally with them at the DelMar (21 area) gym on Camp Pendleton ....  never hung around them except the gym...  sucked for the kids...  that's shit that never goes away... 

[MCWAY]

Ray USED to work as a bouncer. Even in the Netflix documentary his friends say "Ray had no job" and "Sally used to earn more money". IFBB Pro? Puhleese...... that was the 90s. Even the Olympia winner used to take away only $100K-$150K back then.

Why don't you admit Ray was a parasite who liked to live off somebody else's money and abuse them at the same time?

And I don't care about Sally's affinity to black men (since I am neither black nor white). I just find it strange that she dated blacks when it was seriously taboo. She didn't find one guy of her own race attractive/worthy in 40+ years of dating? Strange

No. Sally McNeil stated (at least in the FLEX interview from 1996) that she had white boyfriends before she met Ray. In fact, (per her words) Ray didn't care if white dudes hollered at her all day long. He would only get jealous if other black men talked to Sally.

[MCWAY]

I’m surprised Sally didn’t comment on the piece

She did in the FLEX interview. She claimed his hair almost fell out completely shortly after he won the North American and that the person who put on his toupee used the wrong type of adhesive and it burned his scalp.

[Rambone]

She did in the FLEX interview. She claimed his hair almost fell out completely shortly after he won the North American and that the person who put on his toupee used the wrong type of adhesive and it burned his scalp.

 

[aks2161989]

No. Sally McNeil stated (at least in the FLEX interview from 1996) that she had white boyfriends before she met Ray. In fact, (per her words) Ray didn't care if white dudes hollered at her all day long. He would only get jealous if other black men talked to Sally.

Well they didn't show that in the Netflix documentary.... BTW do you have any link to that Flex interview?

[njflex]

He's not that good.  At all.

HAIR is painted on here  and fluffed with filler like s ray did before shaving it.

[Rambone]

What about Shawn Ray’s flattop?

[joswift]

What about Shawn Ray’s flattop?

glued on

[BB]

She did in the FLEX interview. She claimed his hair almost fell out completely shortly after he won the North American and that the person who put on his toupee used the wrong type of adhesive and it burned his scalp.

Should've paid attention to Generation Iron's "Wig Minute with Mike O'hearn" -

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[Dave D]

I don’t know any to besmirch the good name of Sally McNeil but has anyone considered the possibility that she may have played a role in Ray’s balding?

Maybe she put a undetected hair remover in his shampoo?

I know it seems like I’m reaching with this, but are really supposed to believe Ray was balding by 25 due to a genetic pre disposition? 

If Sally was willing to take this man’s life surely she would be willing to first take his hair to cause him shame and embarrassment.