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OXFORD UNIVERSITY ACADEMIC ARGUES TO NOT SAVE PEOPLE IF THEY EAT MEAT



Dr. Michael Plant who is – get this, a “Philosopher of HAPPINESS” apparently didn’t get the joyful memo. He claims that if a stranger was in a life or death situation, that it would be okay for someone to let them die if they eat meat, because of the pain that they have inflicted on animals.

“It seems universally accepted that doing or allowing a harm is permissible – and may even be required – when it is the lesser evil,’ he wrote in the Journal of Controversial Ideas.

“I argue that, if meat eating is wrong on animal suffering grounds then, once we consider how much suffering might occur, it starts to seem plausible that saving strangers would be the greater evil than not rescuing them and is, therefore, not required after all.”

What’s even crazier about Plant’s argument, is that he eats meat himself. Yes, he’s not even a vegan, but instead he described himself as a “Welfatarian.”

What the hell is that you might ask?

Plant will only eat animals if the creature in question has experienced a happy life prior to his death.

https://www.outkick.com/oxford-university-academic-argues-to-not-save-people-if-they-eat-meat/

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Re: OXFORD UNIVERSITY ACADEMIC ARGUES TO NOT SAVE PEOPLE IF THEY EAT MEAT
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2022, 03:45:32 PM »
Michael Plant (@MichaelDPlant) · Twitter

https://twitter.com/MichaelDPlant
And I thought no one was going to notice my new paper...


Obviously, I don't *actually* say what the paper claims I say

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Re: OXFORD UNIVERSITY ACADEMIC ARGUES TO NOT SAVE PEOPLE IF THEY EAT MEAT
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2022, 04:30:20 PM »
How about eating roadkill?

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Re: OXFORD UNIVERSITY ACADEMIC ARGUES TO NOT SAVE PEOPLE IF THEY EAT MEAT
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2022, 05:50:30 PM »
I’d outlaw selling the AIDS cocktail to that sperm gulping phaggot.

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Re: OXFORD UNIVERSITY ACADEMIC ARGUES TO NOT SAVE PEOPLE IF THEY EAT MEAT
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2022, 07:45:57 PM »
We can go dumber.

We need someone who claims if you eat plants you cause global warming. Then put that person together with this bloke and let’s see what they agree we can eat. If it’s insects, we then find someone who says insects have feelings and then add them to the mix and see what they come up with.

The outcome I am chasing is can we make someone truly believe that if we eat aeroplanes we can save the planet.


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Re: OXFORD UNIVERSITY ACADEMIC ARGUES TO NOT SAVE PEOPLE IF THEY EAT MEAT
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2022, 12:15:20 AM »
Dr. "All I eat is prison meat" Plant
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Re: OXFORD UNIVERSITY ACADEMIC ARGUES TO NOT SAVE PEOPLE IF THEY EAT MEAT
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2022, 01:13:26 AM »
The best and the brightest.  ::)

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Re: OXFORD UNIVERSITY ACADEMIC ARGUES TO NOT SAVE PEOPLE IF THEY EAT MEAT
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2022, 08:01:16 AM »

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Re: OXFORD UNIVERSITY ACADEMIC ARGUES TO NOT SAVE PEOPLE IF THEY EAT MEAT
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2022, 08:04:49 AM »
That's not really the dude's name, is it?

The Matrix breaks more every day.

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Re: OXFORD UNIVERSITY ACADEMIC ARGUES TO NOT SAVE PEOPLE IF THEY EAT MEAT
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2022, 10:46:45 AM »
Trade school….send your kids to a trade school. Welding, carpentry, ironworker, roofer, HVAC….clearly anything else you come out dumber than when they went in

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Re: OXFORD UNIVERSITY ACADEMIC ARGUES TO NOT SAVE PEOPLE IF THEY EAT MEAT
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2022, 12:44:28 PM »
Trade school….send your kids to a trade school. Welding, carpentry, ironworker, roofer, HVAC….clearly anything else you come out dumber than when they went in

College has a bad return on investment for most majors. They should have had a great reset for higher education.

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Re: OXFORD UNIVERSITY ACADEMIC ARGUES TO NOT SAVE PEOPLE IF THEY EAT MEAT
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2022, 01:22:52 PM »
While I do not agree with his ideas, his paper was posted in the JOURNAL OF CONTROVERSIAL IDEAS.

If you look up some of the journal articles, you get just that: controversial, off-the-wall ideas. There is even one article where the author discusses viewing pedophilia from a sexual orientation perspective, instead of stigmatizing it.

Again, I don't agree with his ideas, but it was posted in that journal for a reason.
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Re: OXFORD UNIVERSITY ACADEMIC ARGUES TO NOT SAVE PEOPLE IF THEY EAT MEAT
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2022, 02:56:31 PM »
Jesus Christ, it's a bloody thought-experiment published in, as SF stated, The Journal of Controversial Ideas. It's a basic moral dilemma similar to classic Trolley Problem questions that’s been reformulated to reflect a contemporary issue worthy of consideration.

For instance: say that you find 20th century bodybuilding icon and Getbigger of note Adolph Hitler drowning in a pond. Are you obligated to save him? (A further question might be to ask if you are in fact obligated to drown him. Consequentialists and Deontologists will differ). Is the act of letting him drown considered the lesser evil compared to what he will do if he were to live?

To simplify what he lays out, he then asks that if meat eaters cause a sufficient amount of suffering by virtue of supporting the factory-farmed meat industry, might neglecting to rescue them be the lesser evil?

He does not call for the murdering of meat eaters or even state that eating meat is wrong. He highlights a potential issue for those who believe it is while simultaneously holding that we have a duty to save lives where we easily can, but also that there are 'lesser evil' justifications for doing or allowing harm. It’s a lengthy, well-written piece that is designed to make one think. Read his publication rather than some online hit-piece written by a lazy and confused hack.

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Re: OXFORD UNIVERSITY ACADEMIC ARGUES TO NOT SAVE PEOPLE IF THEY EAT MEAT
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2022, 04:04:39 PM »
I’d outlaw selling the AIDS cocktail to that sperm gulping phaggot.

Amen
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Re: OXFORD UNIVERSITY ACADEMIC ARGUES TO NOT SAVE PEOPLE IF THEY EAT MEAT
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2022, 01:47:29 AM »
College has a bad return on investment for most majors. They should have had a great reset for higher education.
Too much money being made for anything to change.

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Re: OXFORD UNIVERSITY ACADEMIC ARGUES TO NOT SAVE PEOPLE IF THEY EAT MEAT
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2022, 01:53:27 AM »
A prime example of how twisted far left doctrines are and can become.

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Re: OXFORD UNIVERSITY ACADEMIC ARGUES TO NOT SAVE PEOPLE IF THEY EAT MEAT
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2022, 04:09:37 AM »
Too much money being made for anything to change.

I agree, I doubt it will change. We will keep propping up failed majors with loan forgiveness.

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Re: OXFORD UNIVERSITY ACADEMIC ARGUES TO NOT SAVE PEOPLE IF THEY EAT MEAT
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2022, 04:27:54 AM »
What about other humans?  ???

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Re: OXFORD UNIVERSITY ACADEMIC ARGUES TO NOT SAVE PEOPLE IF THEY EAT MEAT
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2022, 04:50:21 AM »