? about injections - any medical experts and or users responses requested

[myt1]

I have fibromyalgia, and I'm on 300mgs of test enanthate weekly...or at least I will be soon as I have a ton of other medical issues and have a CAT scan, and a MRI this month which I want the results from b4 I start up again.

I can't take any of the 4 meds that are available for fibromyalgia for other medical reasons, and the fucking prices are insane, the rheumatologist told me told me to take a ton of B's and D vitamins as I tested really low.

So, I got my normal Dr. to prescribe me injectable b-12 with the thinking that I could micro does the enanthate (.75 cc's 2x per week with a 25 gauge 5/8 syringe), and add in like 1/3-1/2 of a cc of the B-12 (it's 1000mgs per 1cc vial) which is water based to make it easier to go through such a small syringe.  The Dr. said he would tell his nurses not to do it.

Basically, I hate having to drive 20 minutes, wait for the nurse, and re-explain every time I get a new one why I get my shots in my delts vs. glutes....and explain where exactly to put it.

Is it safe to mix a water and an oil based medication together as I'm describing it?  Any experience doing such a thing?  The other issue I have is he wants me to do the full 1000mgs of B12 once a month which as a water based vitamin means my levels would be all over the place every month.

Thanks for any advices/experiences in advance.

[joswift]

oil and water is fine to mix

 the b12 is 1000 micrograms not milligrams
My wife has b12 shots

[Freemason]

No don't mix the two.

I would do the B12 weekly. Period.

5/8" is a very short needle for an IM injection, and 25ga will be fine for the B12 but a hard push for the oil. I would use a 1" 25ga for the B12 and a 1 or 2" 21ga for the T.

And the final issue is delts only. You will be putting 3 shots a week in two relatively small muscles. You will likely develop knots under the skin within 6 months, I would rotate and use other muscles. If you cannot use your glutes (this is your best target) you can try lats (unless you have ILS) or thigh. Thighs are quite vascular so do aspirate before the push there. If you put that oil in a vein you will know it within a minute and it will be unpleasant and difficult to breathe.

But rotate in glutes if you can... even high up and on the side of the glute works great.

[MAXX]

First of all fibromyalgia is not a real disease. It can not be diagnosen and thus people lie about it.  It's s "disease" only seen in the Western part of the world where people can collect disability.

[myt1]

oil and water is fine to mix

 the b12 is 1000 micrograms not milligrams
My wife has b12 shots

You're correct on the b12.....I fucked that up.  My bad.  Thanks for the response

Since you're wife takes it, am I correct that it can be taken intra muscular?  They tell you to take it sub-q

[joswift]

You're correct on the b12.....I fucked that up.  My bad.  Thanks for the response

Since you're wife takes it, am I correct that it can be taken intra muscular?  They tell you to take it sub-q

I just do it for her intramuscular with a slin pin
a mil of liquid sub q can be painful and leave a lump until it dissipates

[robcguns]

First of all fibromyalgia is not a real disease. It can not be diagnosen and thus people lie about it.  It's s "disease" only seen in the Western part of the world where people can collect disability.

This, I always laugh when people say they have this. They either have nothing or have something the dr can’t diagnose so the dr says fibromyalgia.

[myt1]

No don't mix the two.

I would do the B12 weekly. Period.

5/8" is a very short needle for an IM injection, and 25ga will be fine for the B12 but a hard push for the oil. I would use a 1" 25ga for the B12 and a 1 or 2" 21ga for the T.

And the final issue is delts only. You will be putting 3 shots a week in two relatively small muscles. You will likely develop knots under the skin within 6 months, I would rotate and use other muscles. If you cannot use your glutes (this is your best target) you can try lats (unless you have ILS) or thigh. Thighs are quite vascular so do aspirate before the push there. If you put that oil in a vein you will know it within a minute and it will be unpleasant and difficult to breathe.

But rotate in glutes if you can... even high up and on the side of the glute works great.

I have the nurses do 1" 23 gauge in my delts once a week.  I don't take glute shots as I have too much scar tissue from my youth, and it fucking hurts.  5/8 inch should be fine getting into side delts.  I know nothing about shooting into lats (heard about it), so I would never do it.  I also would never shoot quads for the reasons you described.  I had  friends that tried it back in the day.  Only one person never fucked up or had any issues happen...........and that's bcuz his wife was a nurse.

Thanks for the response.  I agree about weekly vs. monthly on the B12, but can you give me your reasons for not mixing a water and oil combo?

[myt1]

First of all fibromyalgia is not a real disease. It can not be diagnosen and thus people lie about it.  It's s "disease" only seen in the Western part of the world where people can collect disability.

I didn't lie about shit.  I was referred to a rheumatologist by gp Dr., and that is what the diagnosis was after telling her my symptoms, her poking, bending me all around, prodding me, and then 2 blood draws.  Trust me it is very real....they just don't know what causes it.

There's not much left for the Pharma companies to make new drugs for.  The two hot ones now are for IBS/Crones/UC, and for people with AIDS.  Covid was a God send to them, as their patents had expired for Viagra and Cialis.  They wouldn't have made money at all the last couple years, and that's why they are pushing boosters and to essentially turn it into a yearly flu shot plus a booster or two.  And it doesn't even fucking work.   We have a news station here that puts the weekly updates on their site.  Over the last 3 weeks 13 people died.....2 were not vaccinated.

[GymnJuice]

This, I always laugh when people say they have this. They either have nothing or have something the dr can’t diagnose so the dr says fibromyalgia.

Hanky used to have fibromyalgia but fixed it with his cocoon. Now he just has "chronic fatigue syndrome."

[myt1]

I just do it for her intramuscular with a slin pin
a mil of liquid sub q can be painful and leave a lump until it dissipates

Good to know.  Thanks bro!

[MAXX]

Joswifts probably collects from that BS to. Like Jason Blaha

Lazy fucks. Some beta shit not being able to provide for yourself

[myt1]

This, I always laugh when people say they have this. They either have nothing or have something the dr can’t diagnose so the dr says fibromyalgia.

I like you Rob, so I laughing say fuck you.  Life is hell, and the constant pain and fatigue are too.  I definitely have something.  You might be right about the Dr. part, but I did see and get the diagnosis from a specialist...not my normal Dr. who is a fucking dipshit that I have to explain things to about TRT, because he doesn't understand it and he is afraid he might lose his license if he fucks things up....he flat out told me the last part

I'd go to a TRT clinic, as we have more and more every year.  However, none of them take my insurance, and they want you to use their shitty compounded meds.  I get a 90 day supply from my mail pharmacy insurance plan for $141 (4 Five ML bottles of Enanthate).  That would cost me around $500 bucks through the TRT clinic, and they want $279 for a Dr. visit.   Fuck that!  I get real pharma grade manufactured shit, and I only pay a $5 co-pay to see the Dr. and to get my weekly shots.  He knows nothing about this shit, and we argue about it often, but it is worth it for both cost and safety reasons

[myt1]

Joswifts probably collects from that BS to. Like Jason Blaha

Lazy fucks. Some beta shit not being able to provide for yourself

Unlike Joswift, I don't like you...so just go flat out fuck yourself.  The fibro is not my main diagnosis which I won't get into, but have posted about it several times.  I'm not lazy at all.  You don't know anything about me other than the fibro, and make 2 stupid fuckin comments about something you know nothing about that are equivalent to telling a person in a wheelchair they don't need a ramp/elevator to go up a flight(s) of stairs.  Dickhead.

[Flexacon]

I didn't lie about shit.  I was referred to a rheumatologist by gp Dr., and that is what the diagnosis was after telling her my symptoms, her poking, bending me all around, prodding me, and then 2 blood draws.  Trust me it is very real....they just don't know what causes it.

There's not much left for the Pharma companies to make new drugs for.  The two hot ones now are for IBS/Crones/UC, and for people with AIDS.  Covid was a God send to them, as their patents had expired for Viagra and Cialis.  They wouldn't have made money at all the last couple years, and that's why they are pushing boosters and to essentially turn it into a yearly flu shot plus a booster or two.  And it doesn't even fucking work.   We have a news station here that puts the weekly updates on their site.  Over the last 3 weeks 13 people died.....2 were not vaccinated.

B12 deficiency has some of the same symptoms as a fibromyalgia diagnosis.

Anyway just taking B12 injections on its own is just the start. You need to take lots magnesium (ideally glycinate) folic acid and the rest of the b vitamins to activate the b12. Also lots of potassium as b12 injections leach potassium.

[wes]

Welcome back myt1 my OOOOLD buddy !!   

[Van_Bilderass]

You can drink the b12 without much loss in potency. I sag some 10mg (!) methylcobalamin tablets! I would nevet suggest using them but you don't probably need injections, it's mostly psychological.

[joswift]

Joswifts probably collects from that BS to. Like Jason Blaha

Lazy fucks. Some beta shit not being able to provide for yourself

what the fuck does that mean?

[Hulkotron]

This, I always laugh when people say they have this. They either have nothing or have something the dr can’t diagnose so the dr says fibromyalgia.

"Fibromyalgia is a disorder characterized by widespread musculoskeletal pain accompanied by fatigue, sleep, memory and mood issues"

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/fibromyalgia/symptoms-causes/syc-20354780

Sounds like a disease for the smaller guys around here.

[myt1]

B12 deficiency has some of the same symptoms as a fibromyalgia diagnosis.

Anyway just taking B12 injections on its own is just the start. You need to take lots magnesium (ideally glycinate) folic acid and the rest of the b vitamins to activate the b12. Also lots of potassium as b12 injections leach potassium.

Like I said she did two blood draws.  One for the normal shit, and the other for vitamin defianc!es.  I came up insanely low on either Biotin or Folic acid, and even worse on vitamin D, which was all shocking to me as I take B Complex twice a day, and 5000 IU's of D3 2x/day.  She prescribed me 50,000 I.U.'s of D..."I was like, is that even safe?", and also 3 mgs of I think it was the folic acid to Walmart's pharmacy.  The pharmacy called me and said "we don't have any distributer that does that high of a dose.  The only thing we can do is call your Dr. to switch the script to a pre-natal multi that has 2mgs in it"  So we did that.....it changed nothing symptom wise, but my levels were back in the normal to high range with the next bloodwork.

Edit:  Dude, I just scrolled by your post again and noticed your avatar.  Took me a second to get it, but that is hilarious!

[Megalodon]

You can drink the b12 without much loss in potency. I sag some 10mg (!) methylcobalamin tablets! I would nevet suggest using them but you don't probably need injections, it's mostly psychological.

Van Bilderass, Question regarding Formebolone aka Esiclene.

I'm ignorant on the subject in general  but my understanding is that Esiclene had been used for decades to swell up lagging bodyparts and was injected close to the day of the contest, or something along those lines. The effects were apparently short lived. I understand it's not made anymore?

My question is what do the effects of Esiclene look like?

Is the look of a bodypart injected with Esiclene easily discerned?

Are there any photos of bodybuilder's arms or calves where someone can say 'yes, that was definitely Esiclene'? Or is visual detection contextual, based on sudden improvement?

[The Keto Kid]

Take the B12 weekly, do not mix with the test. And in regards to fibromyalgia, get on a strict carnivore diet immediately, beef, butter, eggs, only...do this and I guarantee you'll be healed within a month, 2 months tops. Thousands healed fibromyalgia with a strict carnivore diet.

[myt1]

Welcome back myt1 my OOOOLD buddy !!   

Thank homie!

Things got/are way to toxic on this site, and I was falling into it and stopped posting.   Hoping however, now the elections are over (even though they still don't have the results) and China flu isn't much of a thing anymore that things will chill out.  You calling me old is hysterical.  I still have 1 year and 3 months to hit 50,  You hit that mark 50 years ago, you old fart!

Do you know anything about my original question?  You've been in the game, and a lot of gear heads in your days.  Did you or any of them mix water based with oil based stuff to shoot.

[myt1]

You can drink the b12 without much loss in potency. I sag some 10mg (!) methylcobalamin tablets! I would nevet suggest using them but you don't probably need injections, it's mostly psychological.

I never thought of that.  Good idea on it's own, but I mainly want to do this to micro dose the Test 2x a week.  I draw the test with a 18 gauge, and then we shoot with a 1" 23 gauge.  I go to the dr. office to get the shots.  The nurses complain how hard it is to inject through the 23 gauge every time, and like I said in another post my Dr. is a dipshit about TRT.

I am short, broad in the shoulders, and have short arms so being able to shoot a 1" needle and inject it when loaded is probably not going to work for me if it is supposedly so hard to push through a 23 gauge.  I figured by diluting it and using a shorter needle mainly, it would be easier to do myself, keep me from having to drive there 2x a week, and lessen any scar tissue building in my delts with a smaller gauge needle

[myt1]

Take the B12 weekly, do not mix with the test. And in regards to fibromyalgia, get on a strict carnivore diet immediately, beef, butter, eggs, only...do this and I guarantee you'll be healed within a month, 2 months tops. Thousands healed fibromyalgia with a strict carnivore diet.

I've actually been watching some youtube vids about this trying to learn a bit.  Jordan Peterson's daughter had severe muscle/nerve pain and swears by it.  I just don't think I could never have brown rice, pasta, or bread ever again.......and especially ketchup.....pretty sure I would die without it.