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Humble Narcissist

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Re: We can live Forever
« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2022, 01:24:25 AM »
My granddad lived to be 104. I do not want to live that long.

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Re: We can live Forever
« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2022, 01:29:16 AM »
Too and to.

Look into it.

BossBoss is German, and writes pretty well in English considering it is a second language for him. Although this post was noticeably lower than his normal standard.

I'm not sure if I understand BossBoss' first point, but regarding aging, all health issues that cause living things to die break down into physical processes that have the potential to be halted, or even reversed.

In this sense, to cure death is ultimately just an engineering fix.

My friend thinks that in the future when aging is cured, we will look back at photos of people at age 20 and age 100, and view it like a disease that humanity was able to eradicate, similar to how we view smallpox today.

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Re: We can live Forever
« Reply #27 on: November 16, 2022, 01:35:15 AM »
In my opinion the sense of life is to live forever.

And i believe there is the theoretical possibility to do so.
It makes no sense that there is an end to life.

Do you mean the purpose of life is to live forever?

At first, I thought you meant that if you sense that you are alive, that it would mean you are an eternal being.

But I do agree with you that death could eventually be cured. It seems like aging itself is a disease, and one that many will eventually die from, who don't die of a specific disease.

I hope veganism can be cured too.

My issue with vegans is that they think they are better to animals than non-vegans simply because they don't cause animals to die because they don't directly eat them. Where vegans fail the moral argument to me is that humans cause animals to die in a myriad of way - such as by living in heated homes which causes habitat loss which kills animals, buying goods made by plastic and oil, which kill animals from production all the way to waste in the ocean, and from eating vegetables, which kill something like six million birds in the USA each year just from flying over vegetable crops and being poisoned by pesticides, and in many other ways on top of those.

So a vegan living in a big home and driving a gas guzzling truck probably kills more animals in a year than one meat eating person who just eats one cow and 1-2 pigs over the course of the year. For meat eaters who are minimalist like myself, I'd say the average vegan has a lifestyle that kills way more animals than I do.

So I'm not going to be guilted into adopting a diet that will make me weaker by a group of people who actually kill more animals with their lifestyle than I do with mine. Until all vegans are on the lowest number of calories needed to simply not die, give up all modern technology and live in outdoor tents rather than heated homes, I will simply point out that vegans kill animals too. And I'd be willing to bet you kill more than I do, BossBoss. From doing things like driving more, and buying more new clothes - all of these things kill animals in a roundabout way.

You speak like the only way humans kill animals is by eating them. That is just not the case.

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Re: We can live Forever
« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2022, 02:20:42 AM »
I think we can live longer healthier lives by being more intelligent and disciplined regarding our way of life. But why would you want to live forever with a physical body?

If the body could transform in to something more like a superman perhaps a life of a thousands years would be enjoyable, but not the way we are now.

And besides, the spiritual aspect of our being has always and will always live forever. Our true reality is not this identity as a human being but as the Being at the core of the universe, transcending time and space, abiding forever in the eternal now, in perfect peace and freedom. We are more formless than with form.

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Re: We can live Forever
« Reply #29 on: November 17, 2022, 01:22:08 AM »
I think we can live longer healthier lives by being more intelligent and disciplined regarding our way of life. But why would you want to live forever with a physical body?

If the body could transform in to something more like a superman perhaps a life of a thousands years would be enjoyable, but not the way we are now.

And besides, the spiritual aspect of our being has always and will always live forever. Our true reality is not this identity as a human being but as the Being at the core of the universe, transcending time and space, abiding forever in the eternal now, in perfect peace and freedom. We are more formless than with form.
The first 16 years or so we are growing and then we have our peak years up to about 32 or so and then it's a slow decline to death. People want to live to be 100, 120, 200, etc only because they fear death. Being in an old body for the vast majority of your physical existence would be like being in prison.

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Re: We can live Forever
« Reply #30 on: November 17, 2022, 01:39:07 AM »
There is no "overpopulation" of this world.. more people are always better!
Why? Because more people can solve more problems.

You really want more Detroit-Blacks populating the world?


Make no mistake, i said Detroit-Blacks or Ghettoites, not the Goodrum-Blacks, big difference of species.

Humble Narcissist

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Re: We can live Forever
« Reply #31 on: November 17, 2022, 01:49:06 AM »
You really want more Detroit-Blacks populating the world?


Make no mistake, i said Detroit-Blacks or Ghettoites, not the Goodrum-Blacks, big difference of species.
We do want more big juicy booty girls though.

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Re: We can live Forever
« Reply #32 on: November 17, 2022, 03:31:30 AM »
Did Marty Champions (Falcon) get a new handle?

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Re: We can live Forever
« Reply #33 on: November 17, 2022, 03:41:57 PM »
We do want more big juicy booty girls though.

Indeed!



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Re: We can live Forever
« Reply #34 on: November 17, 2022, 03:55:45 PM »
My granddad lived to be 104. I do not want to live that long.


One day Humble Narcissist was sitting on a park bench smoking a cigarette

The man sitting next to him looks over and says, "Smoking is bad for you." Humble Narcissist looks over and responds, "My granddad lived to be one hundred and four  The man replies, "And I bet he didn’t smoke

"No" says Humble Narcissist "he minded his own fucking business."

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Re: We can live Forever
« Reply #35 on: November 17, 2022, 04:17:05 PM »
What does he base this on? Centenarians in your family history, the anticipation of new medical breakthroughs in the next two decades, hyperbole...? Anything specific?

He bases it on my excellent health. Although the doctor wouldn't know this, a few of my cousins are getting close to 90 years of age. 

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Re: We can live Forever
« Reply #36 on: November 18, 2022, 09:06:29 AM »
The first 16 years or so we are growing and then we have our peak years up to about 32 or so and then it's a slow decline to death. People want to live to be 100, 120, 200, etc only because they fear death. Being in an old body for the vast majority of your physical existence would be like being in prison.

2000-3000 years in the future it will be easy to get a new body,
there is this russian doctor who is planning to transplant a head on a different body..
40 Years ago they did that already with animals. (they died shortly after, but it worked for a few days)

So in the future you not only get a new body, but you can choose your body..

Some people would choose to live as an animal, think about these "Furrys" for example, they absolutly would love to live as an animal, and i think this is what will happen. Not only can you choose what body you will get but also which spezies you want to be, and then they could transplant your brain in a Tiger or different animal.

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Re: We can live Forever
« Reply #37 on: November 18, 2022, 09:15:19 AM »
Living Forever ain't all its cracked up to be in my opinion

The strapping young man who sang the song named after this very concept now complains of constant pain in his hips requiring a hip replacement...and he's only 50

From my observations of elderly relatives its clear life doesn't build up to some grand crescendo and rapturous conclusion once you hit the senior years. With rare exceptions not many people are splitting atoms or refining biceps supinators once they hit their octogenarian era, rather it just sort of...peters out...until the point where you end up sitting in a a chair staring at Price is Right on the telly

Sure there are grandkids etc but I reckon 80-90 years is enough to do what you are gonna do realistically. Of course I may change my mind once I edge closer ...



Liam was always out with weights in a rucksack, running the streets to keep fit.

Poor form, poor footwear and the wrong gait will blow your knees or hips if you aren't careful.

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Re: We can live Forever
« Reply #38 on: November 18, 2022, 09:15:25 AM »
Living forever is not feasible, unless we have interstellar travel.

Also, it would only be given to the select few who can afford it.

Think people! There are billions of people on this earth, many of whom who breed like rabbits. There is no way having everyone living for hundreds  of years benefits anyone.

Unless, we can disperse throughout the universe.

Otherwise, it's won't happen for the average person. Just like Magic Johnson, survived AIDS, when it was a death sentence for nearly everyone else.

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Re: We can live Forever
« Reply #39 on: November 18, 2022, 09:54:17 AM »
2000-3000 years in the future it will be easy to get a new body,
there is this russian doctor who is planning to transplant a head on a different body..
40 Years ago they did that already with animals. (they died shortly after, but it worked for a few days)

So in the future you not only get a new body, but you can choose your body..

Some people would choose to live as an animal, think about these "Furrys" for example, they absolutly would love to live as an animal, and i think this is what will happen. Not only can you choose what body you will get but also which spezies you want to be, and then they transplant your brain in a Tiger.
The brain and head age as well. You may attach the head to a young body and just be a young buck with dementia.

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Re: We can live Forever
« Reply #40 on: November 18, 2022, 10:21:15 AM »
The brain and head age as well. You may attach the head to a young body and just be a young buck with dementia.

It's better than dementia AND a fucked up body. (you would feel like bhanks)

But there is probable a solution for dementia in the future,
i am shure they will find a cure for dementia maybe not in the next 10 years but 100% in 2000 years.

Even if your brain is still old, there would be a way to reverse that atleast to a certain extend.
Either you take a pill or they change you genetically.

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Re: We can live Forever
« Reply #41 on: November 18, 2022, 10:22:56 AM »
There is no "overpopulation" of this world.. more people are always better!
Why? Because more people can solve more problems.
My nikka

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Re: We can live Forever
« Reply #42 on: November 18, 2022, 10:24:12 AM »
It's better than dementia AND a fucked up body. (you would feel like bhanks)

But there is probable a solution for dementia in the future,
i am shure they will find a cure for dementia maybe not in the next 10 years but 100% in 2000 years.

Even if your brain is still old, there would be a way to reverse that atleast to a certain extend.
Either you take a pill or they change you genetically.
Stop looking 2,000 years into the future.

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Re: We can live Forever
« Reply #43 on: November 18, 2022, 10:38:58 AM »
Stop looking 2,000 years into the future.

Ok, but the only realistic thing that you could do today is Cryonics.

https://www.alcor.org/
https://www.alcor.org/what-is-cryonics/

What else could you do?
What would be the best plan to reach immortality?

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Re: We can live Forever
« Reply #44 on: November 18, 2022, 10:48:35 AM »
Ok, but the only realistic thing that you could do today is Cryonics.

https://www.alcor.org/
https://www.alcor.org/what-is-cryonics/

What else could you do?
What would be the best plan to reach immortality?
Immortality, doesn't support the space needed, to occupy Earth.

Even if they unlocked the code to live forever, it would be behind a paywall for the rich.

No offense, but you wouldn't bless 3rd world countries with the ability to live forever. Maybe that's what the future lottery will look like. "Win a chance to live forever!"

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« Reply #45 on: November 18, 2022, 11:42:47 AM »
Immortality, doesn't support the space needed, to occupy Earth.

Even if they unlocked the code to live forever, it would be behind a paywall for the rich.

No offense, but you wouldn't bless 3rd world countries with the ability to live forever. Maybe that's what the future lottery will look like. "Win a chance to live forever!"

Good point but why are there third world countries at all?
Maybe the solution would be to fix this problem first, that would also lead to technological development.

+ We have enough space on Earth.
We have plenty of space almost everywhere, people could also live on the see.
People could live in the cold like the city of Oimjakon in russia there is space for everybody.

Also you could exclude women with more than three children from the cryonics\ immortality pill.

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Re: We can live Forever
« Reply #46 on: November 18, 2022, 02:47:28 PM »
Good point but why are there third world countries at all?
Maybe the solution would be to fix this problem first, that would also lead to technological development.


+ We have enough space on Earth.
We have plenty of space almost everywhere, people could also live on the see.
People could live in the cold like the city of Oimjakon in russia there is space for everybody.

Also you could exclude women with more than three children from the cryonics\ immortality pill.

easy way to stop third world country problems is to stop feeding them, it just prolongs the agony

Stupid fucks choose to live in sand rather than soil.

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Re: We can live Forever
« Reply #47 on: November 18, 2022, 02:51:00 PM »
Good point but why are there third world countries at all?
Maybe the solution would be to fix this problem first, that would also lead to technological development.

+ We have enough space on Earth.
We have plenty of space almost everywhere, people could also live on the see.
People could live in the cold like the city of Oimjakon in russia there is space for everybody.

Also you could exclude women with more than three children from the cryonics\ immortality pill.

A lot of the earths dry land is inhabitable

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Re: We can live Forever
« Reply #48 on: November 18, 2022, 07:10:05 PM »
easy way to stop third world country problems is to stop feeding them, it just prolongs the agony

Stupid fucks choose to live in sand rather than soil.
How much do we really feed them? Maybe that is propaganda. You see videos of indigenous people, surviving just fine by themselves, with no outside help.

Maybe Black Hawk Down, hurts the Africans more than the war. They werent/aren't ready for modernization, and it shows.

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« Reply #49 on: November 19, 2022, 05:39:39 AM »
How much do we really feed them? Maybe that is propaganda. You see videos of indigenous people, surviving just fine by themselves, with no outside help.

Maybe Black Hawk Down, hurts the Africans more than the war. They werent/aren't ready for modernization, and it shows.

amazingly governments managed to get vaccines to the third world but they cant send them a bottle of water