Was Layne Norton natural?

[ProudVirgin69]

I gotta say I think he might have been, the only reason i say this is bc he doesnt have "the look" of a gear user .. he never had the inflated-looking deltoids and traps and the rounded "full" look to the muscles that i consider a dead giveaway. 


The case against him being lifetime natural is his stage physique.  It's very hard for a natty to be extremely lean and dry AND have big, full muscles on the day of the show.  Some would say its impossible.  I agree that some of Norton's pictures to be questionable but I'll attribute that to favorable lighting and maybe some sharpening filter.


Before, in the gh15 days of calling him "Liar Norton" i thought it was 10% chance he was natural.  Now I'm like 60% sure he's natural.  What do you all think?

[Dalnet]

I never believed he was natural, myself. Just because he went for a natty look doesn't mean he wasn't on a few weak orals like winny and var. But hey.... that's just like... my opinion, man.

[Irongrip400]

Absolutely. Just like Skip LaCour and Jeff Willet.

[Matt]

Being 215-lb at ~15% natural may be the same LBM may be the same as being 190-lb at ~4% body fat, but they are not the same thing.

Admittedly, I always believed Layne. But let's just say, if he was natural - he's probably about as muscular as a person can get naturally.

If anyone was dedicated enough, Layne was.

[Rambone]

Whatever happened to his new wife Holly Baxter? Is Layne cheating again?

[Gym Rat]

All those who claim "natty" are:

[Stephano]

Before, in the gh15 days of calling him "Liar Norton" i thought it was 10% chance he was natural.  Now I'm like 60% sure he's natural.  What do you all think?

Of fucking course he wasn't natural.  He was just on a lower dose than a lot of the other guys.

Test + orals + stims + diuretics. 

Now he's probably natural (or on TRT) and he looks like he doesn't even lift.  Seriously.  He looks like he might have been a high school athlete in the distant past, but that's all.

[Earl1972]

not natural

when he tore his pec years ago he shrunk to nothing over night

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[Hulkotron]

He is a charlatan

[IroNat]

Not natty like Bhanky.

[Van_Bilderass]

Yes, probably was. One the very, very few. His physique sucked. Strong and driven. I don't even think he is likeable as a person but he was probably telling the truth.

Those naturals like Layne look like nothing in natural lighting say at a gym. So so thin in contest shape. It's the fantastic leanness that makes it look so good in contest pics.

One hell of a career started from nerd postings on forums.

[Van_Bilderass]

Whatever happened to his new wife Holly Baxter? Is Layne cheating again?

He just said he was was divorcing.

[ProudVirgin69]

All those who claim "natty" are:

Good example of the bulging delts & traps that are dead giveaway of steroids

[ProudVirgin69]

Absolutely. Just like Skip LaCour and Jeff Willet.

LOL not even in the same realm

[ProudVirgin69]

Yes, probably was. One the very, very few. His physique sucked. Strong and driven. I don't even think he is likeable as a person but he was probably telling the truth.

Those naturals like Layne look like nothing in natural lighting say at a gym. So so thin in contest shape. It's the fantastic leanness that makes it look so good in contest pics.

One hell of a career started from nerd postings on forums.

Yes, naturals tend to "disappear" when viewed from the side.  Some careful posing by Layne disguises it but you can still see his lack of thickness.  Even in Hebrews with good bbing genetics, they lack thickness from the side.

I wouldnt be shocked if he was a juicer, even if it was just orals for the last 4-6 weeks of prep.  But I wonder if he does represent the upper limit of natural bodybuilding.  If not him,then who?

[Van_Bilderass]

Yes, naturals tend to "disappear" when viewed from the side.  Some careful posing by Layne disguises it but you can still see his lack of thickness.  Even in Hebrews with good bbing genetics, they lack thickness from the side.

I wouldnt be shocked if he was a juicer, even if it was just orals for the last 4-6 weeks of prep.  But I wonder if he does represent the upper limit of natural bodybuilding.  If not him,then who?

We can look at the old turn of the century photographs of musclemen and there were some crazy specimens, maybe not much bigger than Layne but "better."

I mostly go by the "look" and not stats, even though stats can also tell us what is reasonable. I've been here decades talking about the look and it's something few people seem to get lol. Layne siimply never had any of the enhanced signs. Say if he did sneak in a an oral for a few weeks, how relevant was it for his physique? I mean he didn't even manage to get the juiced look. Juiced but looking natural. Yes there are some of those.

[Royalty]

These people should be tortured until they admit that they were not Natty

[Marty Champions]

Definitly lame but i dont know about 'natural'

[BB]

I don't think so, he doesn't have the look most years, but there were periods and lean weights that are off -

https://i.imgur.com/eI0FWwK.png .

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There were periods where he claimed to be leaner and heavier than the best champs through the WWII period, and darn near close to the best guys of the 60's - 70s eg - Pearl, Mentzer, etc....

Bobby Pandour was 5' 6"  mid 150's in weight -

https://preview.redd.it/xrdyrortv5q31.png?auto=webp&s=e71f68469e6bc01e872eac28352b2d597fbfef42 .
Sandow was 190's at around Lanye's height - https://i.redd.it/dl9anfxuzoq81.jpg .

Grimek was supposedly 195ish at around Layne's height here - http://www.legendaryfitness.com/john_g9.gif .

Pearl in 1956 at similar height and #200ish -

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/Bill_Pearl_and_Paulette_Nelson_1956.jpg .

Etc....

Here are the #'s for the first couple of dozen Mr A winners - https://www.musclememory.com/articles/MrAsizes.html . Layne was bigger and leaner than almost all of them. You don't get near his leanness and weight till you're certainly in the drug years.

[Phantom Spunker]

Haha, what planet are some of you guys on? Do you guys know what genuine steroid-free lifters look like? They look like normal people. Every single one of them. When you diet down to single-digit bodyfat without steroids, you look starved and skinny. This so-called sport attracts some of the most mentally ill people on Earth. They'd literally rather die than admit the truth.

[pamith]

Bro...

[SF1900]

All those who claim "natty" are:

BIG ACH thinks he’s natural. What an idiot.

[kreator]

not natural just a bad responder

[pamith]

Tbh I'm the only true natty

[Gym Rat]

Tbh I'm the only true natty

With the terrible physique you have we believe you, trust me