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Re: plants are trying to kill you....
« Reply #50 on: December 28, 2022, 10:15:57 AM »
Meh. Everything in moderation (except for titties and shooting rope)

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Re: plants are trying to kill you....
« Reply #51 on: December 28, 2022, 10:16:06 AM »
carbs are protein sparing


eat carbs


you're welcome

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Re: plants are trying to kill you....
« Reply #52 on: December 28, 2022, 10:18:19 AM »

why do you think this is?

"due to variation within the sex chromosomes and hormonal changes. Currently, there are no known cures to autoimmune disorders. Many individuals are predisposed to autoimmune disorders, which are activated by a plethora of triggers such as climate, poor diet/lifestyle choices, lack of exercise, increased levels of stress, and/or lack of adequate sleep."

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Re: plants are trying to kill you....
« Reply #53 on: December 28, 2022, 10:26:21 AM »
carbs are protein sparing


eat carbs


you're welcome

So are ketones.

"Although more long-term studies are needed before a firm conclusion can be drawn, it appears, from most literature studied, that a VLCARB is, if anything, protective against muscle protein catabolism during energy restriction, provided that it contains adequate amounts of protein."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1373635/

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« Reply #54 on: December 28, 2022, 10:41:23 AM »
So are ketones.

"Although more long-term studies are needed before a firm conclusion can be drawn, it appears, from most literature studied, that a VLCARB is, if anything, protective against muscle protein catabolism during energy restriction, provided that it contains adequate amounts of protein."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1373635/

yes.. 100%

except carbs taste better


eat carbs

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Re: plants are trying to kill you....
« Reply #55 on: December 28, 2022, 11:04:24 AM »
I'm unconvinced and it's more conspiracy stuff. Imagine the scale of the coverup if all the world's vegans die exceptionally young. Ghandi was 78 when he got shot. Nazi scientists were top notch yet they let Adolf be vegetarian.

I'm carnivorous as hell but vegetables are not bad for you. The guy is a crank.

Doesn't brocolli has anti cancer properties?

Rhonda Patrick has good stuff on sulphoraphane.

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Re: plants are trying to kill you....
« Reply #56 on: December 28, 2022, 11:25:28 AM »
I'm unconvinced and it's more conspiracy stuff. Imagine the scale of the coverup if all the world's vegans die exceptionally young.

There are worse things than death, such as living for decades in pain and suffering from chronic disease, depression, and mental illness.

The Number of People With Chronic Conditions Is Rapidly Increasing

"In 2000, 125 million Americans had one or more chronic conditions. This number is projected to increase by more than one percent each year through 2030. Between 2000 and 2030 the number of Americans with chronic conditions will increase by 37 percent, an increase of 46 million people."
https://smhs.gwu.edu/sites/default/files/ChronicCareChartbook.pdf

Ghandi was 78 when he got shot. Nazi scientists were top notch yet they let Adolf be vegetarian.

Ghandi is an exception to the norm and not representative to the Indian population.  India is the country with the highest plant-based food consumption and lowest meat consumption in the world, and it’s one of the countries with the shortest life expectancy in the world.  India has a high prevalence of chronic diseases across all age groups too such as cardiovascular disease, diabetes, pulmonary disease, cancers, and mental health disorders.

Hong Kong has the longest life expectancy in the world. Hong Kong also has the highest meat consumption in the world, mainly beef and pork.

Nazi scientist didn't "let" Hitler eat vegetarian.  Hitler did whatever he wanted to do.  Hitler died too young to judge his long term health and longevity.  He could have suffered from a number of chronic diseases for all we know.

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Re: plants are trying to kill you....
« Reply #57 on: December 28, 2022, 01:17:04 PM »
Fact: Eating too many carbs cause Hitler to off himself.

Look it up.


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Re: plants are trying to kill you....
« Reply #58 on: December 28, 2022, 01:19:21 PM »
The Prevalence of Autoimmune Disorders in Women


why do you think this is?

Women are hypochondriacs.
Also a way to get attention.

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Re: plants are trying to kill you....
« Reply #59 on: December 28, 2022, 02:59:15 PM »
NWO wants everyone to be vegan.

NWO wants everyone to be crickitans.

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Re: plants are trying to kill you....
« Reply #60 on: December 29, 2022, 12:55:15 AM »
I'm unconvinced and it's more conspiracy stuff. Imagine the scale of the coverup if all the world's vegans die exceptionally young. Ghandi was 78 when he got shot. Nazi scientists were top notch yet they let Adolf be vegetarian.

I'm carnivorous as hell but vegetables are not bad for you. The guy is a crank.

Rhonda Patrick has good stuff on sulphoraphane.

Can't stand the b1tch

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Re: plants are trying to kill you....
« Reply #61 on: December 29, 2022, 01:06:48 AM »
Her take on the vax was way off imo but whatever.


Pretty sure the crushing poverty in India would be a factor. Blaming everything on eating vegetables seems like a stretch.

Vegetables being bad for you seems like a thing that would have become common knowledge over tens of thousands of years. How is this rare wisdom being magnified suddenly?

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Re: plants are trying to kill you....
« Reply #62 on: December 29, 2022, 01:19:15 AM »
Fact: Eating too many carbs cause Hitler to off himself.

Look it up.
But he lived much longer than those at Auschwitz.

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Re: plants are trying to kill you....
« Reply #63 on: December 29, 2022, 02:36:05 AM »
Pretty sure the crushing poverty in India would be a factor. Blaming everything on eating vegetables seems like a stretch.

You are the one who brought up the filthy pedo, Gandhi.   :D

He was very poor too, yet lived to age 78, as you said.

Poverty might be a factor, but if plant-based foods are so good for health and animal-based foods so bad, you'd think the country with the highest plant-based food consumption and lowest animal-based food consumption wouldn't be one of the countries with the shortest life expectancy and highest levels of chronic disease too, despite their poverty.

Vegetables being bad for you seems like a thing that would have become common knowledge over tens of thousands of years. How is this rare wisdom being magnified suddenly?

This has been common knowledge for thousands of years:  Soaking raw beans in water overnight before cooking in order lower their lectin levels, cooking spinach and kale in order to lower their oxalate and goitrogen levels before eating large quantities, etc.

Farmers have known for thousands of years to keep their animals away from certain plants in order to protect them from disease:

Goiter in Animals

"Certain plants may produce goiter when ingested in sufficient amounts, especially in the absence of adequate iodine intake. Soybeans are most notable, but cabbage, rape, kale, and turnips all contain less potent goitrogens. Cooking or heating (and the usual processing of soybean meal) destroys the goitrogenic substance in these plants."

https://www.merckvetmanual.com/endocrine-system/the-thyroid-gland/goiter-in-animals

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Re: plants are trying to kill you....
« Reply #64 on: December 29, 2022, 12:13:09 PM »
Anecdotally while I was on a strict keto diet for about 3 1/2 years my joints felt great. Switched to a protein/carb diet this past spring in order to gain some size. During that time it was either my shoulder, or my elbow aching constantly.  As soon as one felt better the other would flare up.

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Re: plants are trying to kill you....
« Reply #65 on: December 29, 2022, 07:03:28 PM »
Anecdotally while I was on a strict keto diet for about 3 1/2 years my joints felt great. Switched to a protein/carb diet this past spring in order to gain some size. During that time it was either my shoulder, or my elbow aching constantly.  As soon as one felt better the other would flare up.

It is well established that being in a state of ketosis is very anti-inflammatory.  That is one of the ways in which the keto diet successfully reduces seizures in children with epilepsy.

On the other hand, sugars, refined carbs, corn, soy, wheat, "vegetable" oils, and any product containing these are known to be very inflammatory.

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Re: plants are trying to kill you....
« Reply #66 on: December 30, 2022, 04:53:26 AM »
It is well established that being in a state of ketosis is very anti-inflammatory.  That is one of the ways in which the keto diet successfully reduces seizures in children with epilepsy.

On the other hand, sugars, refined carbs, corn, soy, wheat, "vegetable" oils, and any product containing these are known to be very inflammatory.


BhankyHankins take note.

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Re: plants are trying to kill you....
« Reply #67 on: September 19, 2023, 01:54:35 PM »
For any getbiggers who prefer instead listening to the corrupt World Health Organization (WHO):

Natural toxins in food

10 March 2023

"Some natural toxins can be formed in food as defense mechanisms of plants, through their infestation with toxin-producing mould, or through ingestion by animals of toxin-producing microorganisms.

Natural toxins can cause a variety of adverse health effects and pose a serious health threat to both humans and livestock. Some of these toxins are extremely potent.

Adverse health effects can be acute poisoning ranging from allergic reactions to severe stomachache and diarrhoea, and even death.

Long-term health consequences include effects on the immune, reproductive or nervous systems, and also cancer.

Exposure to natural toxins needs to be kept as low as possible to protect people. Natural toxins not only pose a risk to both human and animal health, but also impact food security and nutrition by reducing people’s access to healthy food."


https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/natural-toxins-in-food

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Re: plants are trying to kill you....
« Reply #68 on: September 19, 2023, 02:16:45 PM »
For any getbiggers who prefer instead listening to the corrupt World Health Organization (WHO):

Natural toxins in food

10 March 2023

"Some natural toxins can be formed in food as defense mechanisms of plants, through their infestation with toxin-producing mould, or through ingestion by animals of toxin-producing microorganisms.

Natural toxins can cause a variety of adverse health effects and pose a serious health threat to both humans and livestock. Some of these toxins are extremely potent.

Adverse health effects can be acute poisoning ranging from allergic reactions to severe stomachache and diarrhoea, and even death.

Long-term health consequences include effects on the immune, reproductive or nervous systems, and also cancer.

Exposure to natural toxins needs to be kept as low as possible to protect people. Natural toxins not only pose a risk to both human and animal health, but also impact food security and nutrition by reducing people’s access to healthy food."


https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/natural-toxins-in-food

Oh, fuck off. Go check under your bed for broccoli.

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Re: plants are trying to kill you....
« Reply #69 on: September 19, 2023, 02:28:22 PM »
Oh, fuck off. Go check under your bed for broccoli.

That hurt my feelings.

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Re: plants are trying to kill you....
« Reply #70 on: September 19, 2023, 02:31:39 PM »
That hurt my feelings.

Allah forgive me, brother. I just got sick of reading about fucking vegetables and lashed out wildly.

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Re: plants are trying to kill you....
« Reply #71 on: September 19, 2023, 02:32:39 PM »
Allah forgive me, brother. I just got sick of reading about fucking vegetables and lashed out wildly.

Forgiveness granted!

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Re: plants are trying to kill you....
« Reply #72 on: September 19, 2023, 02:34:33 PM »
Organic vegetables are so good.

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Re: plants are trying to kill you....
« Reply #73 on: September 19, 2023, 03:04:31 PM »
Ever consider the toxins in vegetables are why they are healthy? Hormesis.

I'll eat vegetables regardless. Meat and potatoes with a salad is what I love the most. Though I do indulge in salad dressing, sauces for the meat.

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Re: plants are trying to kill you....
« Reply #74 on: September 20, 2023, 12:37:36 AM »
Ever consider the toxins in vegetables are why they are healthy? Hormesis.

I'll eat vegetables regardless. Meat and potatoes with a salad is what I love the most. Though I do indulge in salad dressing, sauces for the meat.
Me too. Love that meal.