Moral Alignment Test

[NoPEDsNoBB]

stupid fucking questions

How the fuck do you know how other people feel about you?

Hahaha I was actually going to post
"I'd love to see pamith's, rob's, joswift's, bhank's and booty's results."
earlier.

If I had an overriding philosophy /outlook (I don't really tbh)I i would say it's that more often than not the best or most correct solution is somewhere away from the extremes and more towards the middle

So re: internet I don't personally think it's either of the above in a binary sense, it's both and neither and ultimately the whole witches brew and ebbs & flows resulting in it landing somewhere inbetween

And in a similar sense, decision making, while having a basic framework, should be bespoke and evidence based.  Philosophies are fun but need to be a guide and caddy rather than determinant

AI is the real moral dilemma shaping up on the horizon, Larry summers called it the fire and wheel in its consequences, HUGE basically 

Not an exciting clickbait answer to your question i know, but it fits my worldview and has got me through to-date

                                   

[joswift]

Hahaha I was actually going to post
"I'd love to see pamith's, rob's, joswift's, bhank's and booty's results."
earlier.


                                   

I did an Autism test a while back, the questions are not all encompassing
"At a party do you talk to groups or sit alone quietly?"

I cant answer that because I dont go to fucking parties.

[Grape Ape]

Hahaha I was actually going to post
"I'd love to see pamith's

[NoPEDsNoBB]

I did an Autism test a while back, the questions are not all encompassing
"At a party do you talk to groups or sit alone quietly?"

I cant answer that because I dont go to fucking parties.

 

Ohh Jeff..

LEAVE PAMITH ALONE!!!





BOOTY!!!
I know you're here reading this..
Take the test..
Post results.

[funk51]

   

    Great, I took the test, now they're sending somebody out for me.

[Soul Crusher]

Lawful Good

People who are Lawful Good believe that an orderly, strong society with a moral government can work to make life better for the great majority of the people. When the laws are fair and the people respect them and try to help one another, humanity as a whole prospers. Therefore, people who are Lawful Good strive for a social order that will bring the greatest benefit to everyone and cause the least harm. Lawful Good personalities may sometimes find themselves faced with the dilemma of whether to obey the law or do good when the two conflict. For example, when upholding the law of the land would lead to unfairness or harm or when there is a conflict between two orders of what is right, such as between the ways of their community and the law of the government.

[Griffith]

There is ultimately no order to anything.

Good and evil are irrelevant when making a decision.

[Grape Ape]

Hahaha I was actually going to post
"I'd love to see rob's,

[Kwon_2]

[Tapeworm]

If I had an overriding philosophy /outlook (I don't really tbh)I i would say it's that more often than not the best or most correct solution is somewhere away from the extremes and more towards the middle

So re: internet I don't personally think it's either of the above in a binary sense, it's both and neither and ultimately the whole witches brew and ebbs & flows resulting in it landing somewhere inbetween. Humans are still gonna human no matter what platform they do it on and how they do so, and the same basic drivers aren't going to change 

And in a similar sense, decision making, while having a basic framework, should be bespoke and evidence based.  Philosophies are fun but need to be a guide and caddy rather than determinant

AI is the real moral dilemma shaping up on the horizon, Larry summers called it the fire and wheel in its consequences, HUGE basically. And part of that - to my point a couple of paragraphs above - is that it literally takes humans out of the equation, a truly massive unprecedented paradigm shift

Not an exciting clickbait answer to your question i know, but it fits my worldview and has got me through to-date

I'm going to be one of those AI bigots. I just don't believe a self directed, Strong AI singularity will emerge.

While I have no answer for the Frankenstein conundrum, like if you 3d printed me atom by atom then I have to acknowledge it's as much me as I am, I remain an atheistic doubting Tom. There doesn't have to be an eternal and unique soul in order for there to be a qualitative difference between a biological consciousness and a really big calculator.

There will be sophisticated programs that analyze and predict  etc, and pass a chat Turing, but there won't be a mind in there. It's Searle's room. There's nothing in there at all. You could put the thing in the closet for 100 years and it'll just sit there dutifully awaiting input to carry out its program.

I'm not well informed on theory of mind but I think we're going to see holes in the mimicry which indicate it doesn't have one. It won't reason abstractly or conceive of categories. It won't self direct like in the movies. I didn't buy Weinstein's suggestion that sentience is an emergent property of sufficient physical structure plus experience. I don't see it as separable from a living thing with biological drives, and we're not going to Dr Frankenstein something that isn't a living thing into "it's alive."


But I like that poor AI toaster from Red Dwarf horny to fulfill its purpose. Every time someone walks in it's "Hi Dave. Would you like some nice delicious toast?" No. "A bagel perhaps?" No. "Hey, anything you want I can toast it." FUCKING NO! "Ok, ok.... waffle?"




Spergtastic neutral.

[robcguns]

Chaotic Evil

People who are Chaotic Evil are motivated by the desire for personal gain and pleasure. In their view, the strong have the right to take what they want, and the weak are there to be exploited. When Chaotic Evil personalities band together, they are not motivated by a desire to cooperate but rather to oppose their mutual enemies. Such a group can, as a rule, only be held together by a strong leader capable of bullying his underlings into obedience. Since leadership is based on raw power, a leader is likely to be replaced at the first sign of weakness, or by anyone who can scheme to take his position away.

https://www.idrlabs.com/moral-alignment/1/76.7/1/72.5/graph.png


So I’m chaotic evil but I’m a pretty nice guy really.

[wes]

I really dont think he does...

[wes]

LOL 

[robcguns]

Hahhahahah

[Kahn.N.Singh]

My dear, childlike, endearing lot of poor slobs.

Are you so impoverished to measure your morality within a two-dimensional square grid calibrated to a mere nine categories of moral dispositions? I understand that the simple must reduce concepts to fit inside the crib-sized chambers of their infantile minds (and here I risk rattling some cranial discomfort to those for whom the term 'polyhedra' is the name of a parrot), but you might be interested to consider that more evolved beings regulate their social interactions along the vertices of a hyper-dimensional megagon (basically, the topological equivalent of a tesseract times the infinite orifices of tbombz diseased ass or [Tst (×) tds^∞]. But, please, do not let this revelation trouble your concentration (curls).

All my best for a healthy new year!

Kahn

[falco]

My dear, childlike, endearing lot of poor slobs.

Are you so impoverished to measure your morality within a two-dimensional square grid calibrated to a mere nine categories of moral dispositions? I understand that the simple must reduce concepts to fit inside the crib-sized chambers of their infantile minds (and here I risk rattling some cranial discomfort to those for whom the term 'polyhedra' is the name of a parrot), but you might be interested to consider that more evolved beings regulate their social interactions along the vertices of a hyper-dimensional megagon (basically, the topological equivalent of a tesseract times the infinite orifices of tbombz diseased ass or [Tst (×) tds^∞]. But, please, do not let this revelation trouble your concentration (curls).

All my best for a healthy new year!

Kahn

Thanks!

Much appreciated.

[Kwon_2]

My dear, childlike, endearing lot of poor slobs.

Are you so impoverished to measure your morality within a two-dimensional square grid calibrated to a mere nine categories of moral dispositions? I understand that the simple must reduce concepts to fit inside the crib-sized chambers of their infantile minds (and here I risk rattling some cranial discomfort to those for whom the term 'polyhedra' is the name of a parrot), but you might be interested to consider that more evolved beings regulate their social interactions along the vertices of a hyper-dimensional megagon (basically, the topological equivalent of a tesseract times the infinite orifices of tbombz diseased ass or [Tst (×) tds^∞]. But, please, do not let this revelation trouble your concentration (curls).

All my best for a healthy new year!

Kahn

Thanks!

Much appreciated.

[delon]

I'm going to be one of those AI bigots. I just don't believe a self directed, Strong AI singularity will emerge.

While I have no answer for the Frankenstein conundrum, like if you 3d printed me atom by atom then I have to acknowledge it's as much me as I am, I remain an atheistic doubting Tom. There doesn't have to be an eternal and unique soul in order for there to be a qualitative difference between a biological consciousness and a really big calculator.

There will be sophisticated programs that analyze and predict  etc, and pass a chat Turing, but there won't be a mind in there. It's Searle's room. There's nothing in there at all. You could put the thing in the closet for 100 years and it'll just sit there dutifully awaiting input to carry out its program.

I'm not well informed on theory of mind but I think we're going to see holes in the mimicry which indicate it doesn't have one. It won't reason abstractly or conceive of categories. It won't self direct like in the movies. I didn't buy Weinstein's suggestion that sentience is an emergent property of sufficient physical structure plus experience. I don't see it as separable from a living thing with biological drives, and we're not going to Dr Frankenstein something that isn't a living thing into "it's alive."


But I like that poor AI toaster from Red Dwarf horny to fulfill its purpose. Every time someone walks in it's "Hi Dave. Would you like some nice delicious toast?" No. "A bagel perhaps?" No. "Hey, anything you want I can toast it." FUCKING NO! "Ok, ok.... waffle?"




Spergtastic neutral.

I hope you are right, and would like to think so: a benign Red dwarf toaster (great show btw) rather than creepy hal sounds good to me

Who knows how the future will unfold, as the saying goes, predictions are hard to make, especially about the future

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[Mohammed Omari]

My dear, childlike, endearing lot of poor slobs.

Are you so impoverished to measure your morality within a two-dimensional square grid calibrated to a mere nine categories of moral dispositions? I understand that the simple must reduce concepts to fit inside the crib-sized chambers of their infantile minds (and here I risk rattling some cranial discomfort to those for whom the term 'polyhedra' is the name of a parrot), but you might be interested to consider that more evolved beings regulate their social interactions along the vertices of a hyper-dimensional megagon (basically, the topological equivalent of a tesseract times the infinite orifices of tbombz diseased ass or [Tst (×) tds^∞]. But, please, do not let this revelation trouble your concentration (curls).

All my best for a healthy new year!

Kahn

Allah is the greatest! First my brother in Islam Taffin returns and now our inimitable intellectual Dr. Singh has blessed us with an appearance. Let this be proof for all you fucking heathens out there.

[Dave D]

Allah is the greatest! First my brother in Islam Taffin returns and now our inimitable intellectual Dr. Singh has blessed us with an appearance. Let this be proof for all you fucking heathens out there.

Taffin is back, he’s not dead?

Praise God (Yahweh, in case there was any confusion)!

[loco]

Seen this online test doing the rounds and for such a quick and easy test it seems pretty accurate.

https://www.idrlabs.com/moral-alignment/test.php

If you want to share your results right click to copy image




Chaotic Evil

People who are Chaotic Evil are motivated by the desire for personal gain and pleasure. In their view, the strong have the right to take what they want, and the weak are there to be exploited. When Chaotic Evil personalities band together, they are not motivated by a desire to cooperate but rather to oppose their mutual enemies. Such a group can, as a rule, only be held together by a strong leader capable of bullying his underlings into obedience. Since leadership is based on raw power, a leader is likely to be replaced at the first sign of weakness, or by anyone who can scheme to take his position away.

[Mohammed Omari]

Taffin is back, he’s not dead?

Praise God (Yahweh, in case there was any confusion)!

Verily I say unto you that our prodigal son made an appearance the other day, brother.

[Fortress]

Fortress is smack-dab Good.

Hail.

[Griffith]

Team Lawful/Good
         
            vs

Team Chaotic/Evil 

[NoPEDsNoBB]

There is ultimately no order to anything.

Good and evil are irrelevant when making a decision.

Pamith, in your expert opinion, do you think Griffith is a psychopath?

Haha good stuff

Fortress is smack-dab Good.

Hail.

Ha. You were the other one I was curious about, along with Avesher.
I think with Josh and Rob.. it'll just come down to what mood they're in when they take/took the test.
Like, if Rob retook the test right now, he'd probably end up in the top/left corner instead.