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Re: Alec Baldwin finally charged
« Reply #50 on: January 19, 2023, 10:49:47 PM »
The fact it took this long is disturbing. You or I would have been hooked up immediately


You or I are not celebrities with unlimited funds. The whole "world" is not going to watch what happens in our case. It's not uncommon for law enforcement to get their ducks in a row and take extra precautions when dealing with a high profile case. At this point, there was no hurry. He wasn't going anywhere anyway. Just my observation, I could be wrong. 

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Re: Alec Baldwin finally charged
« Reply #51 on: January 19, 2023, 10:52:41 PM »

The prosecution is going to have to prove that he knew the gun was loaded with live ammunition and that he was experienced enough to know that any firearm is to be treated as loaded at all times. He's a Hollywood actor...they are experienced with tofu smoothies and driving electric cars......not guns

I believe that is not accurate. Manslaughter is often charged and convictions gained from accidents. The crux of the issue is the level of negligence. He didn't have to KNOW the gun was loaded but that he SHOULD have known the gun was loaded using reasonable precautions.

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Re: Alec Baldwin finally charged
« Reply #52 on: January 20, 2023, 12:08:38 AM »
Why do they use real guns anyways. That is the part that should be illegal. Just use prop-guns..

With real guns if you load it with blanks and you check it before there can be mishaps like in "The Crow" where a round is lodged in the barrel

That case was pretty much identical to the Baldwin case. But in that case Massee(shooting Lee on set) was never even charged and it was deemed an accident.


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Re: Alec Baldwin finally charged
« Reply #53 on: January 20, 2023, 12:56:53 AM »
Why do they use real guns anyways. That is the part that should be illegal. Just use prop-guns..

With real guns if you load it with blanks and you check it before there can be mishaps like in "The Crow" where a round is lodged in the barrel

That case was pretty much identical to the Baldwin case. But in that case Massee(shooting Lee on set) was never even charged and it was deemed an accident.
They fucked up a lot on that movie set for this incident to happen. Hiring Alec Baldwin was the first.

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Re: Alec Baldwin finally charged
« Reply #54 on: January 20, 2023, 11:07:23 AM »
Why do they use real guns anyways. That is the part that should be illegal. Just use prop-guns..

With real guns if you load it with blanks and you check it before there can be mishaps like in "The Crow" where a round is lodged in the barrel

That case was pretty much identical to the Baldwin case. But in that case Massee(shooting Lee on set) was never even charged and it was deemed an accident.

Good question, obviously fake guns can be made to look real.

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Re: Alec Baldwin finally charged
« Reply #55 on: January 20, 2023, 12:19:12 PM »
Very tough man that Alec Baldwin!!  ::) ::) ::)


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Re: Alec Baldwin finally charged
« Reply #56 on: January 20, 2023, 12:20:26 PM »
Lets not forget fake tough-guy De Niro the queero...  ::) ::)


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Re: Alec Baldwin finally charged
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Re: Alec Baldwin finally charged
« Reply #58 on: January 20, 2023, 12:25:51 PM »
I’ll never forget what he tried to do to that poor canteen boy

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Re: Alec Baldwin finally charged
« Reply #59 on: January 20, 2023, 12:29:15 PM »
I’ll never forget what he tried to do to that poor canteen boy

It was a bed bug

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Re: Alec Baldwin finally charged
« Reply #60 on: January 20, 2023, 12:34:29 PM »

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Re: Alec Baldwin finally charged
« Reply #61 on: January 20, 2023, 02:54:06 PM »
Lets not forget fake tough-guy De Niro the queero...  ::) ::)



He just forgets that life is not a movie and thinks he is one of the badass movie roles he has played.

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Re: Alec Baldwin finally charged
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Re: Alec Baldwin finally charged
« Reply #63 on: January 20, 2023, 03:08:55 PM »
The Hunt For Red October is one of my all-time favourites.

Having said this, the guy is a known hothead prick.

We’ll have to wait to see the outcome of all this.






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Re: Alec Baldwin finally charged
« Reply #64 on: January 20, 2023, 04:12:59 PM »
They fucked up a lot on that movie set for this incident to happen. Hiring Alec Baldwin was the first.


Thry didnt hire him
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Re: Alec Baldwin finally charged
« Reply #65 on: January 20, 2023, 04:25:23 PM »
A cork in a bottle is not a deadly weapon. What you're describing is a freak accident.

He pointed a gun at her and pulled the trigger. Granted it was supposed to be loaded with blanks but even  blanks have killed people. Then he lied about it.

There's also culpability because he was the producer too, if im not mistaken.  Bottom line hee death is his responsibility.


You're right..blanks have killed actors like Brandon Lee....but the person who pulled the trigger wasnt charged with manslaughter because it was an accident and he thought the weapon was not dangerous.  The case is about the same as Alec Baldwin.

Take these scenarios:

I'm a bartender and a co-worker hands me a bottle of alcohol for restock but its spiked and it kills people...manslaughter??
She should have checked the liquor ...right???

Dlo Brown paralyzed Droz in the WWE with his signature move...attempted manslaughter???  He should have made sure Droz got rid of the loose clothes

Thats the issue i have and i dont like Alec Baldwin.  Its clearly politically motivated as the only way to have prevented this happening is for Alec to second guess thr armorer who handed him the weapon and told him it was clear.  He would have also had the ability to know what real ammunition and fake ammunition looks like even if he checked the chamber.   Stuff like this should be settled in a civil court


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Re: Alec Baldwin finally charged
« Reply #66 on: January 20, 2023, 04:54:26 PM »
I hope he assumes room temp. He is a vile creature.

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Re: Alec Baldwin finally charged
« Reply #67 on: January 20, 2023, 05:58:10 PM »
Thats the issue i have and i dont like Alec Baldwin.  Its clearly politically motivated as the only way to have prevented this happening is for Alec to second guess thr armorer who handed him the weapon and told him it was clear.  He would have also had the ability to know what real ammunition and fake ammunition looks like even if he checked the chamber.   Stuff like this should be settled in a civil court

You still don't aim it at the cinematographer and squeeze the trigger.

That's why it is involuntary manslaughter.

He should know better.

And he knows he's guilty.

This is why, for months, he tried to say the gun went off accidently and he hadn't pulled the trigger.

He knew he aimed it at her and fired it.

He should take a plea, but his moronic ego might get the better of him.

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Re: Alec Baldwin finally charged
« Reply #68 on: January 20, 2023, 06:46:33 PM »
Vince just doesn't seem to get.

Baldwin had no business pulling the trigger when he did. He pulled it during rehearsals and whilst no one was wearing ear protection. He is at fault for firing the gun. The gun having a live bullet in there was just his bad luck.


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Re: Alec Baldwin finally charged
« Reply #69 on: January 20, 2023, 07:07:57 PM »
Lets not forget fake tough-guy De Niro the queero...  ::) ::)



Let's get to nearly 80 years old before we start criticising people for being helped off a boat ::)

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Re: Alec Baldwin finally charged
« Reply #70 on: January 20, 2023, 07:09:13 PM »
Vince just doesn't seem to get.

Baldwin had no business pulling the trigger when he did. He pulled it during rehearsals and whilst one was wearing ear protection. He is at fault for firing the gun. The gun having a live bullet in there was just his bad luck.

Exactly.

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Re: Alec Baldwin finally charged
« Reply #71 on: January 20, 2023, 07:12:21 PM »
It would be great if there was a rule now in movies where all guns have to be finger guns and the actor has to make as good sounds as possible for the firing.

Obviously, you'd still need to making blank sounds from your mouth (not live ones), but it'd be safer.

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Re: Alec Baldwin finally charged
« Reply #72 on: January 20, 2023, 07:50:01 PM »
Let's get to nearly 80 years old before we start criticising people for being helped off a boat ::)


De Niro is belittled and despised for being an anti-American, worthless piece of cuckold crap, not because he has trouble getting off.

A boat.

And fuck De Niro.   I hope he assumes room temp soon. 

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Re: Alec Baldwin finally charged
« Reply #73 on: January 20, 2023, 08:16:35 PM »
I hate all baldwins and want them all dead...

But the responsibility of props is never on the actors....

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Re: Alec Baldwin finally charged
« Reply #74 on: January 20, 2023, 08:17:31 PM »
he pissed off one of the powers somewhere as they do not eat one of their own unless they want him to pay for something he did or didn't do to/for them

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