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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #100 on: February 14, 2023, 12:16:08 PM »
But what did she say?

His ideas of her 'racism' might be his own interpretation.

Everyones racist

Which race would you rather be and why?

If you answer that you are by definition a racist.

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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #101 on: February 14, 2023, 01:18:34 PM »
people just really fucking suck

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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #102 on: February 14, 2023, 03:02:12 PM »
people just really fucking suck
The only thing stopping total chaos is the fear of consequence, once we lose that, its all over as a species.

If there are no consequences for your actions society will crumble.
Given the choice most people will do the wrong thing, we are inherently bad.

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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #103 on: February 14, 2023, 03:07:13 PM »
The only thing stopping total chaos is the fear of consequence, once we lose that, its all over as a species.

If there are no consequences for your actions society will crumble.
Given the choice most people will do the wrong thing, we are inherently bad.

no kidding.

I'm mainly waiting for the stories and skeletons on Arnold to all drop when HE dies and lets see how HIS over the top fans like it


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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #104 on: February 15, 2023, 01:01:04 AM »
Everyones racist

Which race would you rather be and why?

If you answer that you are by definition a racist.
:D I'm going to use that.

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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #105 on: February 15, 2023, 04:37:16 AM »
Finding the volume level your body can handle and then doing that consistently for years > any fad routine. Every person has a different genetic make up, so there is no best routine.

Learning to listen to your body is the way to avoid injuries and keep from burning out.

Well said.....

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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #106 on: February 15, 2023, 06:16:28 AM »
Is it true that Arnold called Mentzer “pee breath” backstage which made him instantly flip out? Pretty classless for Arnie to out him like that in front of his fellow thonged colleagues

"You know what I'm going to do when I get to Sydney? I'm going to take Mentzer's cup of piss and I'm going to hide it. Yeah, mess his mind up a little."- Arnold, probably.


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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #107 on: February 15, 2023, 06:45:36 AM »
"You know what I'm going to do when I get to Sydney? I'm going to take Mentzer's cup of piss and I'm going to hide it. Yeah, mess his mind up a little."- Arnold, probably.

Lmao!

I know you’re hiding that garage door clicker. Just to mess his mind up a little!

Imagine if Arnold pissed in a cup and threw it at Mike? I don’t know if he’d like that or throw fists

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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #108 on: February 15, 2023, 08:59:46 AM »
Everyones racist

Which race would you rather be and why?

If you answer that you are by definition a racist.

If not Western European, probably East Asian (except mainland Chinese).

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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #109 on: February 15, 2023, 09:04:38 AM »
Is it true that Arnold called Mentzer “pee breath” backstage which made him instantly flip out? Pretty classless for Arnie to out him like that in front of his fellow thonged colleagues

That is something that a 7th grader would say. Arnold was insecure.

Champions like Frank Zane, Lee Haney, Larry Scott, and Dorian Yates were able to win Olympia titles without all the name-calling and “psychological warfare”.




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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #110 on: February 15, 2023, 09:14:21 AM »
fuck arnold. He'll never be as good as sergio oliva

cheers for arnolds verbal warrior to draw assault and battery skills because he is a fucking bully who has to sabotage competitors

sorry but he is WAY overdue for being on the receiving end of ostracizing


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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #111 on: February 15, 2023, 10:22:19 AM »
That is something that a 7th grader would say. Arnold was insecure.

Champions like Frank Zane, Lee Haney, Larry Scott, and Dorian Yates were able to win Olympia titles without all the name-calling and “psychological warfare”.

I wouldn't turn my back on Arnold within 500 yards.

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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #112 on: February 15, 2023, 11:27:48 AM »
More laughable so called "training" from mentzer's number 1 ball sucker John Little.


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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #113 on: February 15, 2023, 11:31:36 AM »
I wouldn't turn my back on Arnold within 500 yards.

I need to know what Matty was pondering at this exact moment

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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #114 on: February 15, 2023, 11:35:50 AM »
That is something that a 7th grader would say. Arnold was insecure.

Champions like Frank Zane, Lee Haney, Larry Scott, and Dorian Yates were able to win Olympia titles without all the name-calling and “psychological warfare”.

Arnold wasn't insecure. He just threw off the competition. Nothing wrong in that as it is a competition after all. Psyching out your opponents is done in many contests. So what?

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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #115 on: February 15, 2023, 11:36:40 AM »
I wouldn't turn my back on Arnold within 500 yards.

Why? You afraid of him?

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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #116 on: February 15, 2023, 11:39:54 AM »
fuck arnold. He'll never be as good as sergio oliva

cheers for arnolds verbal warrior to draw assault and battery skills because he is a fucking bully who has to sabotage competitors

sorry but he is WAY overdue for being on the receiving end of ostracizing

Sergio was overrated.

Arnold was never a bully. He was doing what many competitors do in contests. Psyche out the opponents. Boxers do it all the time. Nothing wrong with it as it makes it all the more interesting.

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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #117 on: February 15, 2023, 11:40:48 AM »
I need to know what Matty was pondering at this exact moment

That Lou was going to lose and Matty was going to have to give his son another good hiding for not living up to Matty's unrealistic expectations. Poor Matty.

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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #118 on: February 15, 2023, 11:42:20 AM »
no kidding.

I'm mainly waiting for the stories and skeletons on Arnold to all drop when HE dies and lets see how HIS over the top fans like it

There won't be. Us so called "over the top" fans already know about Arnold. There's nothing shocking in what he has accomplished. What did mentzer accomplish again? 🤔

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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #119 on: February 15, 2023, 11:44:38 AM »
The only thing stopping total chaos is the fear of consequence, once we lose that, its all over as a species.

If there are no consequences for your actions society will crumble.
Given the choice most people will do the wrong thing, we are inherently bad.

Nope.

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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #120 on: February 15, 2023, 11:55:22 AM »
50 years of hit and not one top champion uses it. No elite natural trainer uses it. No serious trainer uses it.

Dorian Yates used conventional methods to build 99% of his mass, not hit.

Mentzer did high volume most of the time. John Terilli trained with mentzer and saw him do 25 sets for the back alone.

The only guys who keep promoting this hit guff are those with financial interests in selling this fad. Here's a few of these charlatans who promote hit as the best way to train and yet they look unremarkable.

Drew Baye, chunky out of shape.
Doug McGuff, average where's the beef
Ellington Darden, skinny no muscle
Clarence Bass, looks like he trained in Auschwitz and he even took roids. Lol.

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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #121 on: February 15, 2023, 11:57:30 AM »
John Little (appropriate surname), mentzer's nut hugging no 1 fan that hilariously once claimed you can train once every 6 months and still get strong.

If mentzer was a genius (he obviously wasn't) then why hasn't hit worked for any of these nitwits?

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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #122 on: February 15, 2023, 12:15:33 PM »
If not Western European, probably East Asian (except mainland Chinese).

so you think one or more races are superior to others, hence your choice

By definition that makes you a racist


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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #123 on: February 15, 2023, 12:35:06 PM »
Skip LaCour finally looks natty here

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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #124 on: February 15, 2023, 12:39:09 PM »
Is it true that Arnold called Mentzer “pee breath” backstage which made him instantly flip out? Pretty classless for Arnie to out him like that in front of his fellow thonged colleagues

"You know what I'm going to do when I get to Sydney? I'm going to take Mentzer's cup of piss and I'm going to hide it. Yeah, mess his mind up a little."- Arnold, probably.

Ha, I remember when Mike tried to go on MFW (misc.fitness.weights, an early no-holds-barred newsgroup) back around 25 years ago. He didn't meltdown hard, but it was non-stop piss questions. He even got asked about it in Ironman Magazine -

"TS: Dan wrote that you were involved in some things regarding amphetamine abuse and drinking your own urine.

MM: [Chuckles] I don't know where he got that one. How would anyone know I drank urine?

TS: I don't know, but a lot of people believed it.

MM: Yes, a lot of people like to see celebrated figures come down a notch or two because their own self-esteem is not very high. They gain a sense of self-esteem when they can say, Look, I'm not like that; that person has shortcomings. And that's not the proper way to gain self-esteem. That's irrational.

No, I never drank my own urine. Where that notion arose, I have no idea. I did take doctor-prescribed amphetamines for a while, because as a competing bodybuilder and writer I found it difficult during periods of severe dieting to sustain the energy required to train and then go home and write for hours. But it was always doctor prescribed."

I think that was his last interview, and it has a piss question :/ :).