The 2024 General Election

[B_B_C]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/12/trump-anti-mail-in-voting

Campaign toils to convince Republicans to vote early, crucial to winning the election, while ensuring they don’t annoy Trump

[Gym Rat]

[Grape Ape]

First I have heard of this... What is your thought process? He is actively seeking it and "running" as we speak

I'm sure you've heard of reasons why he wouldn't run.

1. One, if Biden polls get too bad, Dems will 25th amendment him or quietly remove him from running (Newsom etc).

2. I personally don't believe he's physically or mentally fit for another term.  You can only blame so many gaffes on a stutter.

[deadz]

I'm sure you've heard of reasons why he wouldn't run.

1. One, if Biden polls get too bad, Dems will 25th amendment him or quietly remove him from running (Newsom etc).

2. I personally don't believe he's physically or mentally fit for another term.  You can only blame so many gaffes on a stutter.

He's headed to full blown dementia, seriously.

[Agnostic007]

I'm sure you've heard of reasons why he wouldn't run.

1. One, if Biden polls get too bad, Dems will 25th amendment him or quietly remove him from running (Newsom etc).

2. I personally don't believe he's physically or mentally fit for another term.  You can only blame so many gaffes on a stutter.

I don't think either are fit. But here we are... I actually haven't heard, I have tried to distance myself from the news and enjoy life. When I was dialed in.. I found I was stressed by it. I kind of keep up on the fringe, as you cannot have a social life and people not mention something about politics. If Dems "25"th him, that wouldn't bug me.. but I would hope both sides were equally concerned for America and it just doesn't seem that way. 

[Thin Lizzy]

He's headed to full blown dementia, seriously.

He can’t say a single word that isn’t written for him:

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[Grape Ape]

I don't think either are fit. But here we are... I actually haven't heard, I have tried to distance myself from the news and enjoy life. When I was dialed in.. I found I was stressed by it. I kind of keep up on the fringe, as you cannot have a social life and people not mention something about politics. If Dems "25"th him, that wouldn't bug me.. but I would hope both sides were equally concerned for America and it just doesn't seem that way.

I as well rarely  get into it outside of online.

I am more concerned about the apathy in regard to real threats to our democracy - porous border, big tech content manipulation and collusion, dishonest media, DEI/ESI, weaponization of gov't agencies, politicizing of our legal system, judicial activism, and forgetting the lessons of WW2 and 9/11 as we get further away from them.

I wish it wasn't Trump.  But out of the two, I think he is the one who will combat these issues more than the Democrats. In fact, I believe the Democrats are enabling most of them. I believe that party will just do anything to stay in power, and I can point out to more fucked up congressional members on that side of the aisle than the other.  Trump has broken their minds, and they need to get past this and start having more common sense moderates.

[chaos]

I as well rarely  get into it outside of online.

I am more concerned about the apathy in regard to real threats to our democracy - porous border, big tech content manipulation and collusion, dishonest media, DEI/ESI, weaponization of gov't agencies, politicizing of our legal system, judicial activism, and forgetting the lessons of WW2 and 9/11 as we get further away from them.

I wish it wasn't Trump.  But out of the two, I think he is the one who will combat these issues more than the Democrats. In fact, I believe the Democrats are enabling most of them. I believe that party will just do anything to stay in power, and I can point out to more fucked up congressional members on that side of the aisle than the other.  Trump has broken their minds, and they need to get past this and start having more common sense moderates.

The people on the left crying about Trump have created the drive for him by being so extreme. People are looking for the extreme to battle the extreme and the left has gone so far that people are attracted to Trump because of how he's portrayed. If the left was floating more center then Trump would probably not be a viable option for most people on the right.

[Agnostic007]

I as well rarely  get into it outside of online.

I am more concerned about the apathy in regard to real threats to our democracy - porous border, big tech content manipulation and collusion, dishonest media, DEI/ESI, weaponization of gov't agencies, politicizing of our legal system, judicial activism, and forgetting the lessons of WW2 and 9/11 as we get further away from them.

I wish it wasn't Trump.  But out of the two, I think he is the one who will combat these issues more than the Democrats. In fact, I believe the Democrats are enabling most of them. I believe that party will just do anything to stay in power, and I can point out to more fucked up congressional members on that side of the aisle than the other.  Trump has broken their minds, and they need to get past this and start having more common sense moderates.

I have the opposing view. IN the past year the right wing nutcases have made much more noise than the left wing nutcases. Trump in my opinion, will be so focused on defending his "honor" against the onslaught of court cases that you and I will take a back seat. He has made it clear his focus is on himself. 

[Gym Rat]

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[Primemuscle]

The people on the left crying about Trump have created the drive for him by being so extreme. People are looking for the extreme to battle the extreme and the left has gone so far that people are attracted to Trump because of how he's portrayed. If the left was floating more center then Trump would probably not be a viable option for most people on the right.

In other words, you are saying that folks on the right, especially MAGA folks are easily manipulated. They will support whomever the left does not.

[mphgrove]

It really all boils down to whether the “Trump scares me” factor or “the Biden’s been bad for my pocketbook factor (compared to when Trump was president)” is stronger. And next to that how important the abortion issue plays. I still think abortion has potency and it favors Biden big time, but whether that offsets the other factors, not sure. To me, it is absolutely 50/50 at the moment.

[Grape Ape]

I have the opposing view. IN the past year the right wing nutcases have made much more noise than the left wing nutcases. Trump in my opinion, will be so focused on defending his "honor" against the onslaught of court cases that you and I will take a back seat. He has made it clear his focus is on himself.

Many of the examples I gave were things this administration is actually doing.  Just look at the Berenson lawsuit, the Twitter files, the government whistleblower testimonies.  The Twitter file stuff should be bigger than watergate, yet the mainstream doesn't even cover it.

[Primemuscle]

Many of the examples I gave were things this administration is actually doing.  Just look at the Berenson lawsuit, the Twitter files, the government whistleblower testimonies.  The Twitter file stuff should be bigger than watergate, yet the mainstream doesn't even cover it.

I read that as of last month Jessica G.L. Clarke, US District judge had not determined the merits of this Berenson v. Biden case. Apparently, Clarke is waiting on the Supreme Court's impending decisions in Murthy v. Missouri. Alex Berenson sued his way back on Twitter in 2022. He continues to post on X today.

[Thin Lizzy]

🥊🥊

[Primemuscle]

Thanks. Of course a lot can change in a couple of years. President Biden is almost 2 years older than I am.

[Grape Ape]

I read that as of last month Jessica G.L. Clarke, US District judge had not determined the merits of this Berenson v. Biden case. Apparently, Clarke is waiting on the Supreme Court's impending decisions in Murthy v. Missouri. Alex Berenson sued his way back on Twitter in 2022. He continues to post on X today.

Regardless, the files that had to be released showed the Biden admin actively working with Twitter to censor an individual.

It's one of the defining characteristics of fascism.

[chaos]

In other words, you are saying that folks on the right, especially MAGA folks are easily manipulated. They will support whomever the left does not.

Is that what you got out of that? Typical lack of reading comprehension. If your reading comprehension is that bad imagine how badly Bidens is?

[Dos Equis]

Regardless, the files that had to be released showed the Biden admin actively working with Twitter to censor an individual.

It's one of the defining characteristics of fascism.

Truth.

[Dos Equis]

DATA: Just 52% of Biden 2020 Voters Think Joe’s Been ‘Good for America’, 83% of Trump 2020 Voters Say The Same for The Donald.
April 15, 2024
https://thenationalpulse.com/2024/04/14/data-just-52-of-biden-2020-voters-think-joes-been-good-for-america-83-of-trump-2020-voters-say-the-same-for-the-donald/

[Thin Lizzy]

🥊🥊

[chaos]

Representative Garret Graves (R-La.) when asked about Speaker Mike Johnson’s decision to move ahead with four bills—aid for Ukraine, aid for Israel, aid for Taiwan, and one on related national security matters.

“In a word, no,....    Look, the reality is, you have to keep in mind President Biden asked for Ukraine, President Biden asked for Israel, President Biden asked for aid for Taiwan, and President Biden supports the changes to TikTok. What are Republicans getting out of this?"

[Agnostic007]

Regardless, the files that had to be released showed the Biden admin actively working with Twitter to censor an individual.

It's one of the defining characteristics of fascism.

What's your take on Trump trying to coerce a countries President to open a public investigation into his political opponent?\

Would you say Trumps all out verbal attacks on ANY person either Republican or Democrat who even remotely speaks out against him Fascist?

[Thin Lizzy]

Big mistake getting Joe out in front of the public. He just doesn’t have it. Better to leave him in the basement. Left leaning Reuters has him lower than right leaning Rasmussen.

[chaos]

Big mistake getting Joe out in front of the public. He just doesn’t have it. Better to leave him in the basement. Left leaning Reuters has him lower than right leaning Rasmussen.

Can you imagine a live debate?